I may be leaving.

[Double Nought Spy]

Seriously, are your beliefs so fragile as that? I don't think so. You are a grownup. Believe whatever you like, and if you can't deal with others having none of it, then just stay out of religious discussions.

 

[Double Nought Spy]

What are you, twelve?

 

[Shadowprophet]

What are you, twelve?

No, I'm putting the proper perspective on things if you can't be respectful then you don't get any respect, What are you like five?

 

[Double Nought Spy]

Okay, then I take back the part about you being a grownup.

Good luck.

 

[Shadowprophet]

I've said my peace here, And what comes in it's wake,

Oh If I can't stop crying about Jesus then stay out the big kid's way.

Fuck that whole perspective. If I can't get basic human respect even though I've given it endlessly, I don't fucking belong here.

Fuck this whole place. I'm gone.

 

[Shadowprophet]

I'll always remember how Ron Kept saying he was my friend and how he apologized and when he had the chance with Double naught, How he backstabbed me again, To my face.

All I asked for was the respect I've given others If it makes you guys feel big to stab at me because you hate God and I am a Christian. Then feel big,

I've done nothing to deserve it, And I appealed to you all to try to remind you Good people are Christian. But no, I'm grouped as nothing more than a Christian, that thing you guys hate.

If your hearts ever open up and you realize how you turned on someone just begging for the same respect he has shown, Then that's a good thing. As for me, I've fought for AE. I've defended its people, I've even helped AE in ways only Nivek knows.

But I'm gone, My part here is over.

 

[michael59]

Is this the question you asked for a answer to?

how can one Judge God and Christianity in the harsh light they do?

The answer is no one. Not if you are Christian. I know there is a higher power. I do not believe in organized religion and I believe the bible has been played around too much with by man. It is no longer just God's word.

The All Knowing; All Seeing; Alpha & Omega, the beginning and the end, God that you speak of, is not concerned about what others say about him. He does not need protecting.

You, on the other hand, do. If I have offended you in any way, please forgive me. It was never my intent to upset you. My words were meant for the OP of the offending thread.

 

[Shadowprophet]

Is this the question you asked for a answer to?



The answer is no one. Not if you are Christian. I know there is a higher power. I do not believe in organized religion and I believe the bible has been played around too much with by man. It is no longer just God's word.

The All Knowing; All Seeing; Alpha & Omega, the beginning and the end, God that you speak of, is not concerned about what others say about him. He does not need protecting.

You, on the other hand, do. If I have offended you in any way, please forgive me. It was never my intent to upset you. My words were meant for the OP of the offending thread.

I've tried leaving several times, I'm not mentally stable. I don't possess the facilities to deal with certain things anymore.
It's best that I do leave.

I can't take on all of the world to defend my personal beliefs. I do want to remind each of you, that I have seen you all lose your temper at times, I am no different, I am human. I knew If I voiced this, I would have to end up leaving. This is a topic that can not be won. it's as old as time.

But, I don't hide how I feel, I leave my emotions out in the open, This isn't a new thing, I've always been this way. I will only say, There comes a time when each of us has to stand for something, And when that time comes, We all have to follow through with our intentions.

I'm a deeply spiritual Person, With Bipolar issues, I don't really belong anywhere. But rather than ignore my thoughts and feelings, I need to follow them. No matter where it leads me, I am not happy as a person who just lets others decimate my thoughts and feelings, No one belongs in a place that does that to them,

And maybe the problem is me, That doesn't change that I don't really and never did really belong here.

 

[nivek]

 

[Rikki]

My husband asked me to read and post in this topic.
Faith is a private matter. its between you and God/The Goddess. One should not force faith upon anther. You should just ignore those who try to push their faith upon you. I can say WICCA is a true way. But unless your heart speaks to you about WICCA then all I say are empty words. Your faith is yours.
Blessed Be
Rikki

 

[Shadowprophet]

My husband asked me to read and post in this topic.
Faith is a private matter. its between you and God/The Goddess. One should not force faith upon anther. You should just ignore those who try to push their faith upon you. I can say WICCA is a true way. But unless your heart speaks to you about WICCA then all I say are empty words. Your faith is yours.
Blessed Be
Rikki

I've never forced my beliefs on anyone, I know a lot of people are upset at me, and they will rationalize things in the way that most benefits their egos. No one can truthfully say, That I have ever forced my spiritual beliefs on anyone.

All I ask for is for people to be tolerant of my beliefs as I have been with theirs. It's one thing to have opinions and beliefs, It's another when people outright verbally assault others spiritual beliefs, People can deny this, People can rationalize this, people can honestly do as they wish,
However, I've been a model member for a very very very long time. I feel that people conveniently taking the view that I flipped out and am forcing my beliefs on others as provably falsifiable,

People don't attack Bushism or Wiccanism, here. There are growing Hatred and bitterness toward Christians. It shows in comments like Ron Stated how God Rapped Mary.

I've been a good person, And I simply will not allow people to the high road The efforts I've put in here to Be a great upstanding member of this community. sure it's easier to shift the blame on me and make me the bad guy. But I've consistently asked for simple tolerance and respect for my spiritual beliefs. I've done a lot of things for AE. I've contributed and to be honest if anyone suggested I haven't helped the site They would be lying for the sake of pride.

All I wanted was for the people I saw as friends, To respect my beliefs,

No matter what anyone says about Freedom of speech, It is not respected to Attack those beliefs.

I stand proud, Because I know I've done nothing wrong but demand the same respect I've shown, And it's easier for people to just call me the bad guy and forget about the issue.

 

[nivek]

The All Knowing; All Seeing; Alpha & Omega, the beginning and the end, God that you speak of, is not concerned about what others say about him. He does not need protecting.

Exactly, this alleged god is a public figurehead (in the true meaning of the word) and open to scrutiny and questioning...This is not a religious forum, I did point this out in that wretched thread, someone wanting to discuss religion in an Alien/UFO forum is beyond my understanding...

If I can't get basic human respect

I do not see where anyone has disrespected you here, not in that wretched thread and not in this thread, if you are really meaning to get respect for Christianity or for the god you worship then that is a completely different thing, then it is not personal type of respect you're seeking...If you are demanding respect for Christianity or its god then you're beating a dead horse, that is a futile thing to ask or demand of anyone that this is non-Christian IMO...I will never give the Christian religion nor its god any respect, nor Islam's god or any other religious god, but that says nothing of the people who follow them, I have some good friends who are Christians, Muslims, and some Hindu...We get along great and do not push our beliefs on one another, why ruin a good thing, we are all grown-ups and live different lives and see that clearly...We respect one another and that respect comes from acknowledging that we have differing and possibly conflicting beliefs and that we are going to agree to disagree sometimes over it, I do not have to respect some god named Allah in order to show respect to my muslim friend and its not demanded of me either...This is common sense shyte here

If you cannot deal with people having opposing views of your religion then don't get involved in that thread, you said a few times in that thread you were done with it, then kept going back in, you have no one to blame but yourself for staying involved in there...

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[Shadowprophet]

Exactly, this alleged god is a public figurehead (in the true meaning of the word) and open to scrutiny and questioning...This in not a religious forum, I did point this out in that wretched thread, someone wanting to discuss religion in an Alien/UFO forum is beyond my understanding...



I do not see where anyone has disrespected you here, not in that wretched thread and not in this thread, if you are really meaning to get respect for Christianity or for the god you worship then that is a completely different thing, then it is not personal type of respect you're seeking...If you are demanding respect for Christianity or its god then you're beating a dead horse, that is a futile thing to ask or demand of anyone that this is non-Christian IMO...I will never give the Christian religion nor its god any respect, nor Islam's god or any other religious god, but that says nothing of the people who follow them, I have some good friends who are Christians, Muslims, and some Hindu...We get along great and do not push our beliefs on one another, why ruin a good thing, we are all grown-ups and live different lives and see that clearly...We respect one another and that respect comes from acknowledging that we have differing and possibly conflicting beliefs and that we are going to agree to disagree sometimes over it, I do not have to respect some god named Allah in order to show respect to my muslim friend and its not demanded of me either...This is common sense shyte here

If you cannot deal with people having opposing views of your religion then don't get involved in that thread, you said a few times in that thread you were done with it, then kept going back in, you have no one to blame but yourself for staying involved in there...

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No one directly disrespected me, But people do not understand, That even though they have ill views on Religion, There are religious people in the world. I ask you, You love AE right? I know you do, So what if there was a growing hatred for AE? What if people made accusations about AE? Painful accusations that hurt everything you stood for? would you not be angry? especially if those people were your friends?

I've been wrong about a lot of things over the years. But I wouldn't be wrong in assuming some people here were really my friends. I know others can't wrap their minds around how it hurts someone when you say the person you love, the person you pray too, raped someone. But it just blatantly does.

 

[nivek]

I've done nothing wrong but demand the same respect I've shown, And it's easier for people to just call me the bad guy and forget about the issue.

Its asinine to demand non Christians to respect your religion, you as a person then yes, but not your religion, simple as that...You sound more like a crusader or a zealot demanding such a thing...This is not a religious forum and if maturity is lacking in discussion of that subject then take it somewhere else...This is an alien ufos forum not a christian based forum, nor islam, nor any other freaking religion...

 

[nivek]

I think this thread needs a time out too...

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