Interesting notes about Travis Walton (and the "check in hand" photo)

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  1. Creepy Green Light

    Creepy Green Light I'd rather not care than to be aware

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    "Ground Saucer Watch" Memo on the Walton Incident
    Conclusions (undated: probably December, 1975)

    "Ground Saucer Watch," a pro-UFO organization, was the very first UFO organization on the scene of the Walton "abduction". In cooperation with Dr. J. Allen Hynek of CUFOS, Dr. Lester Stewart of GSW began to interview the Walton family while Travis was still "missing." They immediately smelled a hoax. These are their conclusions, without any changes - RS.



    1. Walton never boarded the UFO. This fact is supported by the six witnesses and the polygraph test results. [3]

    2. The entire Walton family has had a continual UFO history. The Walton boys have reported observing 10 to 15 separate UFO sightings (very high).

    3. When Duane was questioned about his brother's disappearance, he stated that "Travis will be found, that UFO's are friendly." GSW countered, "How do you know Travis will be found?" Duane said "I have a feeling, a strong feeling." GSW asked "If the UFO 'captors' are going to return Travis, will you have a camera to record this great occurrence?" Duane, "No, if I have a camera 'they' will not return."

    4. The Walton's mother showed no outward emotion over the 'loss' of Travis. She said that UFO's will not harm her son, he will be returned and that UFO's have been seen by her family many times.

    5. The Walton's refused any outside scientific help or anyone who logically doubted the abduction portion of the story.

    6. The media and GSW was fair to the witnesses. However, when the story started to 'fall apart' the Waltons would only talk to people who did not doubt the abduction story.

    7. APRO became involved and criticized both GSW and Dr. Hynek for taking a negative position on the encounter.

    8. The Waltons 'sold' their story to the National Enquirer and the story was completely twisted from the truth.


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  2. Zeke

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    The driver of the truck with Walton sticks with story he saw the UFO. They left before they could see him "board the UFO", that sounds accurate.

    [Just noticed - the video has been removed - well that sucks, I listened to it in entirety earlier. This was @MDecon as host.]

    This is very common with alleged contactees to have mulitiple family members involved. It's a consistent feature. Neutral point.

    Another feature of abductions is a telepathic communication. I'm guessing if they exist, they don't speak fluent American English like on Star Trek or Star Wars. This is a feature of advanced beings that current science lacks behind and considered "pseudo-science". Documents revealed, however, by TTSA show a long active interest, and degree of success, by military intelligence department to study validity and weaponize any form of ESP.

    Fall apart by who's measure? He wasn't even found yet, and the story was falling apart? Where was he. At minimum story was developing, not "falling apart". Premature evaluation.

    "In 1977, at the First International UFO Congress in Chicago, Hynek presented his thoughts in his speech "What I Really Believe About UFOs". "I do believe", he said, "that the UFO phenomenon as a whole is real, but I do not mean necessarily that it's just one thing. We must ask whether the diversity of observed UFOs.."

    He seemed to really get it. At first take a very skeptical approach. Then presented with enough evidence from investigation, need to accept it, deal with it, and recognize the diverse features under the umbrella term we call "phenomenon".

    Here's a list of movies based on real stories that won Oscar awards and cashed in. At best, this point is neutral.

    The Best Oscar-Winning Movies Based on True Stories

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    Later Fire in the Sky even was in fact twisted, according to the driver of the truck in video interview [now deleted] I posted here. But that does not discount the story it was based on.
     
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  3. Creepy Green Light

    Creepy Green Light I'd rather not care than to be aware

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    It'd be like in modern times if USA Today was having a contest to see if anybody gets captured by a 5 headed green monster - and then viola! What luck! I get captured by a 5 headed green monster......and I win $$$. I don't buy it. Another too good to be true fact (besides the Nation Enquirer UFO Contest that just happened to be going on) is the fact that Travis's "abduction" took place 2 weeks AFTER the nationally aired TV movie that depicted the Betty & Barney Hill incident. What an amazing coincidence. All those things factored in with the fish-bowl helmets etc. and I believe its bogus.
     
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  4. Zeke

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    lol fish bowl helmets?

    "UFO Contest" is a much more general and common thing at the time. People were having sightings of saucers left and right. Your version of a "5 headed green monster" is far more detailed and outlandish than "UFOs", in attempt to discredit.
     
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  5. Creepy Green Light

    Creepy Green Light I'd rather not care than to be aware

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    Yes, the helmet he said that the human looking alien had on.

    Another giveaway that it's a complete & total fraud is the fact that Travis supposedly saw the flying saucer hovering over the road when he came out of consciousness. As if the aliens are going to render him unconscious, put him back on the road and then say to each other "Lets just hover over the road - whether it be 1 minutes, 1 hour or 10 hours until he awakens. Then once he does and looks up at us, THEN we'll hover away back into outerspace..." Either that or again, Walton seems to have amazing timing - timing it so that as he's coming out of being unconscious that the flying saucer is hovering away.

    Too bad cases like this don't happen anymore. The other 5 guys involved would have whipped out their iPhones and took a barrage of photos and videos. And Travis could have done that too unless the aliens confiscated his cell phone upon arrival. But alas, this types of abductions passe.
     
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  6. Zeke

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    Yeah, too bad, that would go viral immediately if multiple people recorded the event. I suspect this would work against your skepticism though. Can go both ways!
     
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  7. Creepy Green Light

    Creepy Green Light I'd rather not care than to be aware

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    It's interesting how those cases don't happen anymore and I could read off a list of them. Remember Budd Hopkins & Linda Cortile? I wonder if Budd realized it was all BS but was just taken by her looks. Hard to imagine someone intelligent thinking what she said was actually happening. I think her case is the most ludicrous abduction case I've heard of.
     
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  8. nivek

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    A lot of contact cases occurred during the cold war and during the years of nuclear weapons testing, which I think attracted more visitors to our planet...

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  9. Ron67

    Ron67 Ignorance isn’t bliss!

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    Walton comes across well in interviews now he's of a certain age.I believe he shunned interviews for many years when he was younger because he wasn't as convincing a liar back then.I think the whole thing was a scam.
     
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  10. michael59

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    Too Many Cooks in the Kitchen Spoil the Broth.

    Too many people are trying to control, influence, or work on something, with the quality of the final product suffering as a result

    I believe Travis Walton's recount of his abduction.
     
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  11. pigfarmer

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    Attracted by nuclear weapons. Odd thing, when you think about it.
     
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  12. humanoidlord

    humanoidlord ce3 researcher

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    i don't give much attention to famous cases these days but there is still a problem here: the case led to criminal investigation, why did they continue the hoax when the police came?
     
  13. Dejan Corovic

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    When you break things into a mist of fine detail you can filter friendly facts, and hide unfriendly ones and that way you can avoid that the initial preferred prejudice sounds naive.

    Just for practice, try to prove that world we live in is not real. Thousands of people already succedded.

    But that photo with $2,500 cheques is prety brilliant ;-)
     
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