Invisibility technology enigma

ChrisIB

Honorable
For decades we have had satellites we are told can read the newspaper of someone sat in Red Square so how is it that UFO events reported by multiple people don't have accompanying satellite images? There are hundreds of civilian as well as military imaging satellites out there.
As numerous academic and military developers have demonstrated partial invisibility technology should it not be an easy matter, even without the full technology, to uncloak any UFOs?
Even if UFOs could project as a standard aircraft would not a simple cross check with transponder data give results?
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I think it's more than simply invisibility, more like phasing out of this frequency of existence to avoid detection...
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
For decades we have had satellites we are told can read the newspaper of someone sat in Red Square so how is it that UFO events reported by multiple people don't have accompanying satellite images? There are hundreds of civilian as well as military imaging satellites out there.
As numerous academic and military developers have demonstrated partial invisibility technology should it not be an easy matter, even without the full technology, to uncloak any UFOs?
Even if UFOs could project as a standard aircraft would not a simple cross check with transponder data give results?
Well...

Really hard to cloak something perfectly (the 360 perspective problem).

Plus cloaking is vulnerable to the CO2 cloud/flood of neutralized axion particles type of attack, since it always shows as a void.

Resolution of space sensors has nothing to do with cloaking although it is impressive that we can guess a woman's cup size from space.

It would take a lot of computer power to recognize an anomaly.

It is hard enough to spot conventional neutral emission camouflage.
 

ChrisIB

Honorable
Interesting. Lasers may be an important factor here. The US military will shortly be moving from ship based testing to deployment of fairly powerful lasers. For the first time they will have the ability to target an unidentified object with something likely to connect.
If nothing else it may make them visible. It also raises the question of what is the official US policy to unidentified objects violating it's airspace?
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
Interesting. Lasers may be an important factor here. The US military will shortly be moving from ship based testing to deployment of fairly powerful lasers. For the first time they will have the ability to target an unidentified object with something likely to connect.
If nothing else it may make them visible. It also raises the question of what is the official US policy to unidentified objects violating it's airspace?
Laser my ass. High velocity weapon is the only way. The Navy currently only hits Mach 7 but bump that up to Mach 14 with a steerable projectile and you can smell what the Rock is cookin'.
 

Gambeir

Celestial
Interesting. Lasers may be an important factor here. The US military will shortly be moving from ship based testing to deployment of fairly powerful lasers. For the first time they will have the ability to target an unidentified object with something likely to connect.
If nothing else it may make them visible. It also raises the question of what is the official US policy to unidentified objects violating it's airspace?

This goes right back to Casualbystanders statement about being really hard to perfectly cloak something and then by employing a cloud of particles to reveal the device.

So sort of the same concept, but by using fast scanning lasers anything in the sky or immediate area could be revealed. So I was thinking of this myself recently and how to go about building such a device. Most such systems would use high speed rotating mirrors. You might want to use Infared laser light as it would be invisible to the naked eye. Thus not attract attention when normal lasers would illuminate a cloud, but it's telling us something alright. Someone's out there who is invisible and they damn well know it.

Thinking about this I then reflected back on the system and how it prepares ahead of time. Think about the stories of people shinning lasers at airplanes and helicopters. Now the thing about these supposed stories is that what we have to ask is how many of those stories were real. Reason being that it now seems obvious, in retrospect, that the powers that be were aware of invisible somethings out there and so they are worried people will discover this accidentally while screwing around, and so they fabricate a rash of supposed incidents of people blinding pilots trying land airliners. This enables them make all kinds of laws about shining laser light in to the sky. Now of course it's a little hard to say it's illegal to shine light at an open empty space in the sky. It seems to tell me there's things close to airplanes they don't revealed.
 
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Gambeir

Celestial
For decades we have had satellites we are told can read the newspaper of someone sat in Red Square so how is it that UFO events reported by multiple people don't have accompanying satellite images? There are hundreds of civilian as well as military imaging satellites out there.
As numerous academic and military developers have demonstrated partial invisibility technology should it not be an easy matter, even without the full technology, to uncloak any UFOs?
Even if UFOs could project as a standard aircraft would not a simple cross check with transponder data give results?

Same but different; I ask where are the spy satellites when kids go missing, especially from remote locations? The fact is that they do have spy satellites. I knew a guy who was a brilliant engineer and scientist that worked on secret satellite projects. Truly someone privy to information far outside mainstream. Way back in the early 1990's I had made this flying model of the F-117 Nighthawk and was explaining the build to our model airplane club because they pretty much forced me to, but I also knew this guy would almost certainly know a lot more.

Well so I babbled on about composites and how this was carbon fiber without knowing anything at all about stealth technology, or dang little, but knowing that he did. So I then stopped my blathering and asked him what he thought.
Well holy flying cow pies, that was a jackpot moment, and years later I found what he said was true which has served me well in researching other semi-related matters.

Point is, what they got, that we don't, and what they know, that we don't, is as mind boggling as it is real. I'm with ya, it's just a bunch of BS that we are feed constantly. If there's aliens out there, be they intelligent beings, mechanical robots, or space whales then they damn well know about them for sure. This is what's wrong with conglomerate mass media empires. They can direct and control what will be asked, what will be focused on, and this is why no one demands answers because Mr and Mrs Muggles out there is clueless without help.
 
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ChrisIB

Honorable
Frequency as well. If Earth is a popular alien tourist destination and there are 40000 ships bouncing around at any time things look good. If we are considered a little dull then perhaps not.
It would be ironic that as most current military lasers don't operate in the visible, alien sightings could actually reflect those occasions when the military has managed to zap them hindering the cloaking tech.
 
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