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Discussion in 'Around the Campfire' started by Shadowprophet, Dec 2, 2018.

  1. Dejan Corovic

    Dejan Corovic Honorable

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    IQ has nothing to do with education, memory and experience.

    It is simply a dry ability to figure things out. But there are differnt levels of abstruction. Figuring out what already had been figured out, like filling tax return or fixing the lown mowner counts very little. Same applies to party tricks, puzzles, business solutions, inventions etc. Figuring out some scientific theory that has correct predictions is on the top of the ladder. Think Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity, not to mention many other fields.

    That must be just a desperate joke.

    If one sets bar low, than everybody is genius. If you think you are smart, take a chellinge from the top of the list. Like General Relativity, 24 differential equations, 3,000 solutions. Derive few of new solutions and publish in pier reviewed science magazine and than get them confirmed by real experiments. Looking forward to hear back from you.

    But as said bfore, having high IQ doesn't matter for much in life. It is something like having beautifull eyes :mellow8:.

    Not to menition that there are many things for which IQ is useless and more intuitive skills would bring you more joy. Like figuring out what to say to a girl or how to win business from hesitating customer or how to play a song so everybody loves it etc.
     
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  2. Kchoo

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    IQ is just one measurement. An indicator. There are all kinds of other things that determibe a persons level of accomplishment.
    Self discipline being a big one.
    I know a genius, who works in packing... because to him, genius does not do anything for him. In his concept, genius quotent is a test to help others take advantage of him. So he rebells, and refuses to have a 'smart' job.
     
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  3. SOUL-DRIFTER

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    And surely Einstein had imagination and creativity in his pictorial thoughts on such things he excelled at...No?
     
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  4. Dejan Corovic

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    Well, we can only observe one variable at a time, otherwise we'll be all over the place.

    Thousands of people before Einstein had creativity and imagination, but they hadn't seen what Einstein had seen. So Mr. E. had something extra. Was that extra IQ who can tell, but it certainly helped. Maybe it works like this: creativity produces variations and than IQ separates good ones from bad. So with higher IQ one can go through more variations, or zoom in just on a good ones.

    Creativity might be completely separate from IQ. Creativity is not necessarily limited by what is possible. Like many abstract painters can paint pictures that are pure junk, but they would call themselves 'creative'. Or one can say that there is an infinite number of beautiful melodies. Creative solutions are not judged by they utility. Quite opposite IQ is judged only by its utility, like these geometric patterns in IQ test have only one solution, not many of them. Or scientific solutions always end with just one solution that satisfies conservation of energy and momentum, as well as matches to experiments.

    Creativity is usually limited by resources. In principle one can't paint if one doesn't have paints.

    As well, creativity is suspicious quantity. It is usually self measured, as you most often hear "I am creative" vs "He/She is creative". So if one thinks he's creative that's enough. While for IQ you need to pass the test set by others.
     
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  5. nivek

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  6. SOUL-DRIFTER

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    IQs will eventually average double to triple what they are today. Genetic enhancements and neural implants will see to that.
    IMHO
     
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  7. nivek

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    Then it would not be an accurate gauge of anything if enhancements added to the score...

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  8. Kchoo

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    They would still need a measurement... maybe they will just compare bus and processor size and speed.... and omg... bloatware...
     
  9. nivek

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    Yeah start gauging people as machines once implants started lol...

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