Is Bigfoot Real,A hoax, or something else?

Discussion in 'Cryptozoology' started by The shadow, Sep 10, 2018.

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what is bigfoot?

  1. a real creature

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  2. hoaxes

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  3. misidentified animal

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  4. aliens

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  5. beings from a different realiity

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  1. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    A stabilized version...q37


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  2. Creepy Green Light

    Creepy Green Light Don't mistake lack of talent for genius

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    I lived a combined 17 years in Washington & Oregon. Between BF & UFOs - my eyes were always peeled - especially when camping in a remote campground.
     
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  3. The shadow

    The shadow The shadow knows!

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    sorry that footage has been proved a hoax! the guy in the costume came forward and admitted to working with Patterson to produce the footage.
     
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  4. nivek

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  5. nivek

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    Links please, I have never heard that...

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    I'm at work on break more to come
     
  8. nivek

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    "The bottom line: the rumors are fascinating but at this point in the investigation there is only hearsay and circumstantial evidence that Chambers had anything to do with the Patterson suit. It appeared at one point that the original source of the rumor was Rick Baker, who unfortunately did not answer my question of who he heard the rumor from. Bob Burns, who is Baker's longtime friend, did not hear the rumor from Baker, however, implying that there may have been another source. Burns does not recall who he heard it from, however."

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  9. nivek

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    I've heard and read all about those claims, its all bs, all hearsay and third or fourth hand rumors I think to try to discredit the video's authenticity...

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  10. nivek

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    Here's a report and pics of one of my latest explorations of the remote Appalachian mountains, where I regularly hike and camp...I've also seen black panthers here too...

    Signs of Bigfoot in Appalachian Mountains?

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  11. Ron67

    Ron67 Ignorance isn’t bliss!

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    It always baffles me that they went to the trouble of making the costume have breasts.And kudos to the hoaxers because their costume sure beat anything Hollywood could do at the time.Gimlin who was definitely there says it's genuine.
     
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  12. Creepy Green Light

    Creepy Green Light Don't mistake lack of talent for genius

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    I always thought it was a hoax because that is what they set out to film. If they were say, fishing on a lake and happened to see this while fishing - that would make more sense. But you set out to film a BF and miraculously you happen to get the best footage of one ever?
     
  13. coubob

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    One of my favs BFRO Report 6486: Special Forces team follows bipedal trackway, gets screamed at

    Report # 6486 (Class B)
    Submitted by witness on Friday, June 13, 2003.
    Special Forces team follows bipedal trackway, gets screamed at (Show Printer-friendly Version)

    YEAR: 1988

    SEASON: Spring

    MONTH: March

    STATE: Alaska

    COUNTY:

    LOCATION DETAILS: The team was flown by helicopter out of Wainwright A.F. Base in a south-easterly direction for about an hour before being dropped off in the wilderness for an orienteering excercise lasting several days. The location is north of the Brooks Range and south of the region of the National Petroleum Reserve. Technically, the area is in the North Slope Borough of Alaska.

    NEAREST TOWN: Not pertinent.

    NEAREST ROAD: None

    OBSERVED: In March of 1988, I was the Team Commander (Captain in rank) of a Special Forces "A" Team, conducting a Strategic Reconnaisance training mission in Alaska. There were 11 soldiers on the Team with a lot of Special Forces experience between them. We were wearing rucksacks and walking through the deep snow in a wooded area with cross-country skis. As we approached an area where the woods were too thick to go through on the skis, I decided to walk ahead on snow shoes with two other soldiers to check out the way ahead. After walking about 200 meters into the thicker woods, we came across a set of tracks that immediately drew our attention. The tracks were obviously of a two-legged creature walking through the woods on a course perpendicular to our own. Human tracks of any kind are extremely rare in that part of Alaska but these were particulary unique due to the length of the stride and the fact that there was no crushed snow on either the entry or the exit side of the holes.

    We stopped to investigate. When each of us took off our snow shoes we sank into the snow to a depth of about 2 feet (above the knee). When we attempted to take a step in the deep snow, we left an area of crushed snow on the entry side of the hole and then crushed the snow again upon taking our foot out of the hole to take the next step. Our feet made a drag mark in the snow as well no matter how hard we tried to extract the foot without touching the surrounding snow. The best any of us could do was a stride between steps of about 1 1/2 feet. The tracks we were looking at had a stride of over 5 feet between steps and left the snow on both entry and exit from the hole totally untouched. After discussing the rational possibilities for a while, I sent one of my men back to bring up the rest of the Team. Between the 11 men on that Team, we had over 150 years of combined Special Forces experience in the woods all over the planet. They also had extensive experience in the tracking of everything with either two or four legs. We all studied the tracks and tried to come up with a reasonable explanation for what we were looking at. Only one explanation seemed to fit everything we saw but it was not a reasonable explanation. Based on our group experience in tracking humans, we made an approximate determination as to the height and weight of the person who had made the tracks based on the stride and depth of indentation in the snow. THe group consensus was a two-legged person about around 9 ft tall and weighing approximately 500 to 600 pounds. That was our best educated guess.

    I then made a decision to set the training mission aside for a while and to follow the tracks through the woods. Wearing snow shoes, we followed those tracks for about an hour before we heard it. From somewhere ahead of us (and quite a distance from what we could tell) we heard the most horrific sound any of us has ever heard. Every other sound in the woods went instantly silent and we could almost hear our hearts beating. The only other time any of us has heard that kind of silence in the woods or jungle was in the last seconds before initiating an ambush. It is as though every creature and insect in the woods knows that something is about to die and they go silent out of fear or self-preservation. After hearing the sound (it was a cross between a howl and a roar), my Team Sergeant (the most senior and experienced member of my Team) stopped me and said, "Sir, speaking for both myself and the rest of the Team, we really do not want to know what is at the end of these tracks (expletives deleted)". This was surprising to me in that, through all of their years in Special Forces, these men had never expressed a fear of anything on two or four legs. I understood their consternation and agreed to resume the original mission. There was also a general consensus not to discuss the incident with anyone upon our return. Mind you that we were on a training misson and did not have live ammunition so any eventual confrontation with whoever or whatever made those tracks would not have been without a great deal of danger. Our curiosity to know what it was that made the tracks was overcome by the reality that we would be no match for it and, more importantly, that we really did not want to know what was at the end of those tracks. Tracks in the snow are much easier to deny and ignore than actually seeing what made them. My soldiers, and I, were afraid of what we heard and saw and the soldiers just didn't want to know.

    The tracks stayed on the military crest of ridgelines and in low areas as much as possible. The only times the tracks crossed a ridgeline was in a saddle where it would not be seen. The thing which struck us all as odd was that, while the tracks depicted someone far too large to be human, whatever was making the tracks was moving through the woods exactly as one of us would have if we were conducting an escape and evasion. Whatever it was knew the land (as it maneuvered to bypass clearings well before they came into view) and was making a concentrated effort to remain unseen. I still think that the sound we heard was intended to warn us to back off and not follow.

    I have thought back on that incident hundreds of times and wondered how it would have turned out if we had proceeded to follow the tracks. There are pros and cons to both sides of the issue. As for me, there are just some things that cannot be denied. Since then, I have had a VERY healthy respect for Sasquatch.

    ALSO NOTICED: There was no denying the tracks and what they meant. As for the sound we heard, it was like nothing any of us had experienced in all of our years in the various woods and jungles around the world.

    OTHER WITNESSES: 10 Special Forces soldiers other than myself.

    OTHER STORIES: No

    TIME AND CONDITIONS: Middle afternoon. Clear day, not snowing, temperature around freezing.

    ENVIRONMENT: Thickly wooded area, rolling terrain.

    Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Dr. Wolf H. Fahrenbach:

    This extraordinarily concise report is indubitable the northernmost record of any sasquatch observation. An unverified report (Unreachable) stems from Unalakleet, about 5 degrees of latitude (450 miles) to the south.

    The officer who submitted this report was, when I contacted him, overseas on duty and I talked with him at length when he returned. His report was factual and to the point, without exaggeration. Given some considerable delay between the originator retelling this account, assorted inaccuracies might have crept in along the way, specifically names and directions (since they were not specifically told where they were being taken on this orienteering mission).

    The footprints were very large and essentially round, presumably from snow adhering to the hair on the sides of the foot. The witness could turn his boot with inflatable "Mickey Mouse" overboots sideways in the footprint.

    The witness described and imitated partially the singularly guttural, angry sounding growling scream at a deep pitch.
     
  14. pigfarmer

    pigfarmer tall, thin, irritable

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    And the child mummy is an alien, so say the experts and researchers.

    In Anatomy of a Beast Obsession and Myth on the Trail of Bigfoot by Michael McLeod Patterson was dying and looking to make some money for his family. He never returned the original rented camera nor was the original film ever found. He had already handwritten a book about Sasquatch and guess what he and Gimlin were doing out there in the first place? Wait for it ..... looking for Bigfoot. What an extraordinary coincidence he found one.

    His cohorts just kept quiet to preserve some respect for his widow and their friend. I tend to believe the guy who said he made the suit. The expert was working off of a 'first generation copy' - and those became credible exactly when?

    Thing is - I am willing to believe there is something to the Sasquatch legend. Maybe even a big hairy unknown hominid. Just not the film of the guy named Bob in the suit with the football shoulder pads on and fake tits and the bad back.
     
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  15. Creepy Green Light

    Creepy Green Light Don't mistake lack of talent for genius

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    Exactly. Like I said before, if they were out doing something else (anything besides looking for BF - fishing, boating, etc.) - it would be more credible. It's like me renting a fancy camera tomorrow night, then going to this one specific open field tomorrow specifically to try and film a flying saucer. And low & behold - what did I film? A flying saucer. What amazing luck! Yeah right.
     
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  16. humanoidlord

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    billy meier paid his analysts to say what he wanted them to say
     
  17. humanoidlord

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    a suit that was impossible and extremelly expensive to produce in the 60's......
     
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    2 words: paranormal hotspots, places where activity is high, place a camera there and eventually you will get a image of something
     
  20. humanoidlord

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    again: you can't fake that suit with 60's techonology, remenber: thats when expensive SFX meant rubber suits and models...
     
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