Discussion in 'Cryptozoology' started by The shadow, Sep 10, 2018.
Do you care to share some of those?
i have seen several reports of that, i call them small hairy dwarves...
not identical, this one looks less realistic, like if he was trying to recreate the video...
to understand my theory, you first have to know the context that billy meier's case appeared to the world:
the world had just experienced a major UFO wave (1973-1974), it was just way too convenient that someone like meier appeared to sidetrack ufology
there are too many
also i have seen both here and in reddit that you like to say a case is closed, just because someone made up some bullshit explanation for a UFO sighting, wich is not OK
also you seem to ignore encounters like cisco grove, just because they are too weird for you
Being that Stevens believed in the ridiculous Billy Meier case, it makes me wonder if the rest of his USAF flying saucer stories are BS - and he has quite a few of them.
Well in my mind and IMO some cases are closed, like the Coyne case as an example. And Rex Heflin, Ed Walters & Paul Trent. Cisco Grove makes for a way entertaining story but the story is quite ridiculous. Robots that look like the Iron Giant that emit "knockout gas" that floated up the tree to Shrum and knocked him unconcious. And him lighting branches on fire to drop on the Iron Giants. His diagram of the robots matches the sci fi movies aliens & robots of that era and is typical. Just like B & B Hill's UFO matches the sci fi of the era with the ridiculous "winglets" on the edge of the flying saucer.
then it worked
OK, this one is out there a bit - but I went to Christie's auction in NYC for Paramount's 40th (I think) anniversary of Star Trek. They cleaned out the closets and brought every damned cool thing you ever wanted to see out and put it on display. Phasers, disruptors, communicators, tricorders - you name it.
Remember What Are Little Girls Made Of ? Sherry Jackson was smokin' hot and was wearing basically a big X. Made quite an impression of the young Pigfarmer, hoo-baby. Pretty ratty looking by the time I saw it. Well, there it was hanging on a rack you could go through like you were shopping at Kohl's. McCoy's spacesuit from Tholian Web - what a piece of crap! And then there was John Colicos' Klingon uniform! Oh my God - the belt buckle was a spray painted piece of bubble wrap!
The point behind this trip down Trekkie memory lane is that here are things my imagination held in such esteem for so many years, yet the reality of it was sadly lacking. My imagination did a wonderful job of filling in the details and creating something that just wasn't there. Except Sherry Jackson - she is definitely real.
I believe something like that is at work with many of these old cases. Our imaginations have filled in a lot of blanks, connected many of them together in a way that probably shouldn't be and now there's a whole universe behind them. Often a universe laden with conspiracy. Same way the Klingon Empire was born from a man wearing grease paint and spray painted packing material. The reality doesn't add up the the fantasy - but we love the stories and the world they have created.
If these old cases really had something to contribute they would have already. If they are old enough, like the sighting at Exeter, NH for example, then project Blue Book actually did it's job as a contemporary first level filter. We're here decades later trying to peer through the veil and see something that even the original witnesses might scratch their heads over. Same for our friend Bigfoot here. I just can't buy the footage based on all the crapola that surrounded Roger Patterson.
As I've said ad nauseum - I think there really is something at the root of all this. Bigfoot could very well be some unknown creature we just haven't been able to study. I find it hard to believe the population is as big as it would have to be to support all the reported sightings and still not be found. You'd think a tractor trailer would have creamed one out on a deserted road by now. Also hard for me to believe that because we haven't found one yet that he somehow pops in and out of existence to oooga-booga some poor unsuspecting human once in a while.
Agreed. I've only been on this Earth 47 years and you would think by this point & time that there would have been a corpse or skeleton found by hunters, land developers etc. I mean in my 47 years alive the best, sharpest footage we have is from 1967?? Not one person, trail cam has gotten clear, definitive footage since? I don't believe it. What I do believe is BF follows the same pattern as the Loch Ness Monster. A combination of lore, misinterpretations & hoaxes is what its made of. One of the best Loch Ness pictures? Turned out to be a fake fabricated by a dentist (I believe the guy that came forward was a dentist, I could be wrong on that). Some of the best, clearest flying saucer pics by Rex Heflin, Paul Trent, Billy Meier? All fakes. So with that being said, what are we to make of the Patterson Gimlin film? The two guys that rented a camera to go look for a BF actually find a BF and get awesome footage? Yeah right. Those two should have been picking the winning horses then at the race track because they are the two luckiest guys on Earth.
We found Bigfoot!
..in a political smear campaign
his quite voluminous photo archive also is supicious
but that photo analysis thing, it would have never worked unless meier paid stevens or the other way around
unless they find that cargo plane, this is still a open case to me, the fact that the UFO light was white instead of green changes nothing
agree with the others though
i wouldn't discount it just because of that, if we believe in the IDH theory, it even makes some sort of sense that the cosmic trickster would use a deliberately cliche gang of UFOnauts
You know, I never considered what you said - about Stevens being in on it. His reaction (that the entire case is real) seems to be genuine. But if he wasn't in on it, you would think that common sense would kick in at some point and he should think to himself "So wait, some how - some way - Meier is the ONLY person that gets these too good to be true crystal clear pictures and videos of a flying saucer AND has contact with the occupant and they just sit under a tree together as if they were having a picnic and exchange information." That would strike me as "something doesn't seem right". Nobody else can produce ONE clear picture of a structured flying disc yet Meier somehow has 100's of them (and videos)....hmmmm.
Fair enough and I get where you are coming from. In my mind though, its cased closed.
i know right? the realization, also hit me like a brick, i was watching that documentary contact, and i was wondering how he fooled so much analysts, and then i thought: waaaiiittt a minute....
There's other clowns out there that also ran Meier's photos "through the computer to verify size & distance" that back Meier. The guy I'm thinking of is Jim (forget the last name - I can find it though). He goes into this giant over analysis on how the object in the photo is a genuine flying saucer when meanwhile its a small model close to the camera. He ruined his entire reputation (in my eyes) by backing the Meier case.
i know who you are thinking of! there was also a guy that claimed the only way meier could have done it was if he hanged full scale models from a helicopter, LOL
all paid shills for me
Agreed. That's why I tell people that IMO - military personnel are no better a witness than the mailman, etc. If Stevens wasn't in on it - then that says a lot. He's an intelligent guy that was an officer in the Air Force and a pilot. And I believe he was the head honcho of one of the squadrons or air wings (or whatever they call them in the Air Force). And if he can be fooled by a lot of this nonsense - then we are all subject to it (including myself).
thats what makes me think that maybe we are dealing with a richard doty style PSY-OP
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