Is Jacques Vallée Losing it?

dr wu

Noble
Oh my...what indeed is Dr Vallee doing...?
I truly hope he's got something real other wise this could set ufology back several decades imho.
He has never ruled out the ETH ,but he did say many times he would be disappointed if ufos turned out to be only ET......
and that there are far richer alternatives to explore. If they have true witnesses and pieces of the craft....maybe this is the real deal. I can't imagine him being fooled after all the time he has put into investigations over the years. Time will tell.
 

SysConfig

Adept
Fascinating..we were just talking about that I don't think he did an about face..if ETH can manifest themselves or their devices..I don't see a particular problem them using terrestial resources to construct, or direct humans (what better vehicle) to construct for them, a device or a piece of metal..which may appear weird but are from here all the same...If I see an introduction by LMH in there..all bets are off...If this is at the Trinity site..I seem to recall an article about metals and crystals fusing that could only be produced by nuke explosions and high impact meteors and using them as a means to see if tests occured elsewhere, even in our ancient past.
Could they have found something akin to that?
 
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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
He might not be losing it but he is going out on an awfully thin limb with this. He could go from 'the credible expert' to damned fool in a blink.
 

Alien

Adept
Kevin Randle has a good rundown of the San Antonio crash story. He's probably the most conservative researcher who would be called a bleever by the smug, reactionary psuedo-skeptics, and he has a ton of experience with military regulations and protocol, so his contribution to these topics is, in my opinion, invaluable. He's not impressed with this one. Maybe the story is essentially true, with some distortions and embellishments polluting it over the years, I don't know. Some hard evidence for it would be awesome. Implausible details don't help a bit. Military leaving an alien space ship unguarded overnight? Is Ray Stanford somehow involved?

A Different Perspective: The San Antonio UFO Crash
Did Randle read the book before his show?
Don't think so.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Did Randle read the book before his show?
Don't think so.

Have you read the book?...What do you think of it if you have?...I've been considering whether to purchase it or not...

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JahaRa

Noble
Have you read the book?...What do you think of it if you have?...I've been considering whether to purchase it or not...

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I bought the book and have started reading it. I haven't gotten very far because, life, but I enjoyed the beginning where he goes through the history of the area and the testing of the bombs and which scientists were in that area for that. It is a lot more expensive than I would have paid for a paperback if I didn't have an Amazon gift card.
 

Alien

Adept
Have you read the book?...What do you think of it if you have?...I've been considering whether to purchase it or not...

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Yes, I have the epub. One thing is for sure, Paola Harris is a lousy interviewer. But the testimony of the two witnesses is quite stunning.
 

dr wu

Noble
In the past I have bought everything Dr Vallee has published but I'll pass on this one. I'm simply not interested in another 'Roswell' tale.
What is a bit surprising is that this story never came out over the years especially since the Roswell story became so well known and iconic you'd think that the boys involved or someone else involved would have told their story years ago.
I'm curious as to how Harris and Vallee 'happened' on the tale. Did some one approach them or what? And with out any corroborating physical evidence it becomes just another crashed alien saucer tale. Is this one anymore or less valid than Roswell, Corona, etc..?
 

JahaRa

Noble
In the past I have bought everything Dr Vallee has published but I'll pass on this one. I'm simply not interested in another 'Roswell' tale.
What is a bit surprising is that this story never came out over the years especially since the Roswell story became so well known and iconic you'd think that the boys involved or someone else involved would have told their story years ago.
I'm curious as to how Harris and Vallee 'happened' on the tale. Did some one approach them or what? And with out any corroborating physical evidence it becomes just another crashed alien saucer tale. Is this one anymore or less valid than Roswell, Corona, etc..?
Supposedly it did not come out because of the closeness to the nuclear testing sites and the government scaring the beejezus out of everyone. The two people who were interviewed were children back then and one wrote a book before he died that got Paolla Harris interested in the story.
 

dr wu

Noble
Supposedly it did not come out because of the closeness to the nuclear testing sites and the government scaring the beejezus out of everyone. The two people who were interviewed were children back then and one wrote a book before he died that got Paolla Harris interested in the story.
What was in the book the witness wrote...?
 

JahaRa

Noble
What was in the book the witness wrote...?
A crashed vehicle. The kids were checking the fences and saw a flash and heard a crash. They went to the ridge where they could see a fire. They also saw small people running around in a panic. Weird people they thought and wondered if they were children because of their size. When they got home it was dark so the adults waited until morning to go check. The vehicle was avocado shaped and had skidded quite a ways before stopping. The sheriff went with the parents to check out what the kids told them and he contacted the military. The adults thought at first that it was a government test vehicle that had crashed. Later the military sent young men to collect stuff, get it on a truck and take it to Los Alamos. Military officers told everyone their lives would be in danger if they told anyone about anything. The crash was very close to the location of the atomic bomb testing. The men collecting the debris were not careful about getting everything and someone has a peice of metal similar to the metal that was mentioned in the Roswell crash.
 

dr wu

Noble
A crashed vehicle. The kids were checking the fences and saw a flash and heard a crash. They went to the ridge where they could see a fire. They also saw small people running around in a panic. Weird people they thought and wondered if they were children because of their size. When they got home it was dark so the adults waited until morning to go check. The vehicle was avocado shaped and had skidded quite a ways before stopping. The sheriff went with the parents to check out what the kids told them and he contacted the military. The adults thought at first that it was a government test vehicle that had crashed. Later the military sent young men to collect stuff, get it on a truck and take it to Los Alamos. Military officers told everyone their lives would be in danger if they told anyone about anything. The crash was very close to the location of the atomic bomb testing. The men collecting the debris were not careful about getting everything and someone has a peice of metal similar to the metal that was mentioned in the Roswell crash.
What I meant was what was the book the witness wrote....that Harris read? Is that available?
 

Alien

Adept
From Amazon :
'My Dads B-29 Bomber Group , the 231st at Alamogordo AAF in New Mexico recovered this Spacecraft Aug 15-17 1945, in 2007 I was interviewed by Col Wendelle Stevens about this Crash and Wendelle surprised Me by telling Me He had been at 2 UFO Recoverys at Kingman AZ May 18 and May 22 1953, Bill Brophy'
 
From Amazon :
'My Dads B-29 Bomber Group , the 231st at Alamogordo AAF in New Mexico recovered this Spacecraft Aug 15-17 1945, in 2007 I was interviewed by Col Wendelle Stevens about this Crash and Wendelle surprised Me by telling Me He had been at 2 UFO Recoverys at Kingman AZ May 18 and May 22 1953, Bill Brophy'
Claims made in online book reviews are about as lightweight as it gets, but some people are looking into that to see if any of it has some relationship to reality. But really, so what?
 

wwkirk

Divine
In the past I have bought everything Dr Vallee has published but I'll pass on this one. I'm simply not interested in another 'Roswell' tale.
What is a bit surprising is that this story never came out over the years especially since the Roswell story became so well known and iconic you'd think that the boys involved or someone else involved would have told their story years ago.
I'm curious as to how Harris and Vallee 'happened' on the tale. Did some one approach them or what? And with out any corroborating physical evidence it becomes just another crashed alien saucer tale. Is this one anymore or less valid than Roswell, Corona, etc..?
Timothy Good reported about it some years ago. A link is somewhere in this thread.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Yes, I have the epub. One thing is for sure, Paola Harris is a lousy interviewer. But the testimony of the two witnesses is quite stunning.

Yeah I'd like to read the witness testimony, I may get this book just to read that...

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