Is Nuclear war our only hope?

CasualBystander

Celestial
Im not worried much for nuclear war. It will happen eventually though. That's the downfall of the human condition. We fucking love war.

Well...

We have a real race to the Moon and Mars by some private American space companies. With in orbit refueling the SpaceX BFR (the acronym is exactly what you think) could delivery 150 tons to the moon.

Implementation of an EMdrive would enable a Moon capable spacecraft to go to Mars.

We could seriously have enough of an offworld presence in 40 years that nuclear war wouldn't matter.
 

August

Metanoia
Well...

We have a real race to the Moon and Mars by some private American space companies. With in orbit refueling the SpaceX BFR (the acronym is exactly what you think) could delivery 150 tons to the moon.

Implementation of an EMdrive would enable a Moon capable spacecraft to go to Mars.

We could seriously have enough of an offworld presence in 40 years that nuclear war wouldn't matter.

Has anyone considered alien intervention or the Gods ( meaning the Gods as opposed to one God) intervention to stop a Nuke holocaust. Like children in a sandbox someone's got to be watching out there to make sure we don't self extinct.
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
Has anyone considered alien intervention or the Gods ( meaning the Gods as opposed to one God) intervention to stop a Nuke holocaust. Like children in a sandbox someone's got to be watching out there to make sure we don't self extinct.

Aliens probably have a "That will teach them" attitude.

Most countries and Australia (other than Pine Gap) will be unaffected.

Pine Gap is not near the Coastal Pine Gap but is near Alice Springs.

Nuking Pine Gap will kill spiders, snakes, and a few kangaroos.

Oztralia has large reserves of spiders, snakes, and kangaroos elsewhere.
 
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Dundee

Fading day by day.
speak for yaself
Well, I have brought up 4 kids over the last three decades, i am around kids all the time, I now have grand kids, I babysit my nephews and nieces kids as I babysat there parents before I had my own kids. I have taught at University, or should I say tutored, primarily international students. To be honest I would prefer to sit down and play blocks with a kid or use colored pencils than talk to an adult. By and large kids are honest, refreshing and genuine in their thoughts and comments. Adults by and large are false, aggressive and opinionated. So notdej I am speaking with quite a lifetime of experience.
And there is one thing I have noticed that is a real stand out. Most kids when talking about a friend, won't even mention his or her race or religion, they will be talking about a school mate and you might know the name, hear the play stories, and not even know the kid is a little Muslim boy, or an Italian, or someone else. The kids don't care.Half the time I don't think they even notice, why? because to them it is not a significant factor.
In Australia we are currently in a debate about should Gay marriage be legalized. My sons are typical Aussie lads, who like cars, guns, party's, doing burnouts, fast cars etc. They laugh at the issue, they just think, who cares. live and let live. They don't care if you are gay or not. One of my sons has been to the US and Japan, loved both and plans to return as soon as he can afford it. Another has online friends who come from every country you can imagine.
He spends most of his time hanging with his international friends. Not once in conversation has he made comment about that though. It has been me who out of interest asked about it once.
Now I am 55, and I am well aware of the racial prejudice and anger and hatred present in mine and similar generations. Just look at some of the aggro just shoot the bastards comments made by certain folks here in recent threads. I have heard people of my generations fay, fucking Muslims, just nuke em and wipe em off the map. I have heard people on this forum single out African Americans as the basis of certain forms of violence, with no thought or consideration why this might be or thoughts or comments how to fix it. I would have to hunt but somewhere some one made a comment about a certain demographic suggesting just keep killing them down the branches of the tree till you find a good one (by that I assume he meant one who agrees with him)
So i am speaking for myself, and with a fair bag of experience behind me to back up my opinion. I am very confident when I say, our kids and grand kids, by and large outshine us and can teach us a lot about how to treat our fellow man and about racial and religious tolerance.
I can't wait till old farts like me, and the redneck racist agro feelings that are expressed on this forum of late die with the lot of us. I for one can't wait till our kids consign us to the history books are the generation that fucked up there world, and they had to fix it.

And on a personal note, I love this forum, it has some very nice people, but I have to say, I am shocked at the recent level of racism and intolerance shown by some here. This is not what I though was going to happen here.
I guess that song line is true, "Weve lost that loving feeling" I guess the rednecks have arrived and the honeymoon period is over. I for one am a little saddened by that. I had high hopes.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
is that the way you see it? the owner of this place calling members an ass??

do you want me to post here? yes or no?

Didn't call you an ass, said you were being an ass, two different things, since you want to disrespect women on this board...
 

nivek

As Above So Below
And on a personal note, I love this forum, it has some very nice people, but I have to say, I am shocked at the recent level of racism and intolerance shown by some here. This is not what I though was going to happen here.
I guess that song line is true, "Weve lost that loving feeling" I guess the rednecks have arrived and the honeymoon period is over. I for one am a little saddened by that. I had high hopes.

Different topics are like differing waves on a beach, never know what the tide will bring in, the waters might be rough one day and smooth the next, great for surfing one day or fishing the next...I love this forum too and it's steadily moving forward and growing...
 

Kchoo

At Peace.
Nuclear war...
the thing everyone dares each other to do but nobody dares to do it.
Millions upon millions of dollars wasted on giant chess pieces, frozen on the board...
A managerie.

Just so we can say, See, I got me one too!

Oh the insanity... perhaps we do deserve to wipe ourselves out with a press of a button.
Reboot! It's our only hope....
 

Dundee

Fading day by day.
Different topics are like differing waves on a beach, never know what the tide will bring in, the waters might be rough one day and smooth the next, great for surfing one day or fishing the next...I love this forum too and it's steadily moving forward and growing...
I am sorry mate, wasn't meaning to have a dig or be disrespectful of your efforts. And I am the first to admit that I have been drawn into it, when I should have practiced what I preach. So I have certainly added to the problem, not helped stop it. But some of the comments I have read seem so I don't know, I hate the word but I will use it till I find a better one, Redneck. It worries me a little with such an abundance of shoot the bastards type of attitude to certain topics. If I were a passer by to this forum and I was from a country whose culture is less like yours and mine, would I be inclined to join, or express my opinion? I don't know the demographics of our members, never really thought about it til this post. But reading some of the threads. I don't know how welcome I would feel as a visiting Muslim interested in UFO's, or an African American concerned about the problems they face every day.
I guess I was just a little shocked at certain peoples venom in their opinions and got sucked into the fight. I will try to be more tolerant of certain peoples (what I consider) extreme viewpoints.
Cheers
 

notdej

Honorable
perhaps we do deserve to wipe ourselves out with a press of a button.
Reboot! It's our only hope....

again: who's 'we' ?? i don't feel i deserve to be wiped out by anyone.. neither do those i know..

what is your point?
 

Dundee

Fading day by day.
yeah, i'm much older mate.. & most adults in the UK have the same attitude as Australian kids-- now what?
Now what? That's easy, the sooner you and I get sent to a retirement home for old worn out bigots the better.
Put us in the Sun room with a blanket on our stupid old laps to keep us warm, give us a cup of tea, hand us an old book from our times so we can argue about how it was better in our day, lock the door behind us and keep us from doing any more damage than we have already done.
The sooner we have less say in running our world the better.
The sooner our world is run by our betters, "our kids" the better.
Thats what.
 
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