Is Nuclear war our only hope?

Discussion in 'End Times & Conspiracies' started by Dundee, Oct 27, 2017.

  1. Shadowprophet

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    Oh, My bad. Putting this in the proper context. I believe if there is a governing political group like the galactic federation.
    That such a group would have a completely different sense of Moral Value. Their concept of good/evil morality, in general, would most likely be vastly different from our concepts. As we as a society to my knowledge are a fairly isolated species.

    I assume the reason we haven't had relevant contact with an extraterrestrial species is most likely because people usually don't pull over on the side of a desert road with a full tank of gas just to speak to the lonely guy running the petrol station.

    Just my view point on it.
     
  2. notdej

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    I couldn't disagree more....

    Every form of life (I would assume.. Maybe this is a wrong assumption!?!? Who knows) has self preservation at the forefront of their existence- example:

    tap your finger next to a silver fish & what does it do? It runs.....

    If a 'galactic federation' really exists & is unable to grasp this basic concept then to be honest I don't want a part of it...
     
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  3. Shadowprophet

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    Consider for a moment. Instinct is a species-specific response. Consider the jaguar V.S the Possum. They have distinctly different responses to outer stimuli. With this in mind, I ask you? How alike to us would a being truly alien be?
     
  4. notdej

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    yeah but i'm sure they both don't want to die
     
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  5. Shadowprophet

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    Very good point. I'd assume the self-preservation mechanism would be present in almost all life. Very good point there.
     
  6. notdej

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    Well yeah Shads.. That's the point my friend:

    an ant/ a dog/ a highly intelligent alien life form billions of light years from us must feel they want to be here:

    don't want to die/ become none existing.. Without this innate feeling then nothing would be here!!!!

    But having said that- what do I know!?!;)
     
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  7. Kchoo

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    Thanks. I agree with you about the majority.
     
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  8. Dundee

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    This in my opinion is the root cause. In my opinion the problem does not lie with the few in power It lies with the way simple people like you and I think. See in, we all do want to bring up our children in a loving environment, so long as it is a loving environment according to our own values. Which in my opinion are all flawed to begin with.
    You and I don't have the power to cause havoc at a planetary level. But we are no better than those that do. Look how quick we all are to anger (and I definitely include myself in that).
    Look at the recent bad form myself and a couple of others displayed in regards to guns.
    What id we were neighbors, with those opinions, would it escalate to fists, then guns.
    What if one of us was in power in our community and tried to change a law, and just did it.
    CD wouldn't hand in his guns, all hell would break loose.
    And so it could in principle escalate depending on the power each of us have.
    We are all utterly too intolerant of each other. too quick to anger, to judge. We are a planet of racists, bigotsm aggressive, selfish people. So if we ever die by Nukes, it wont be because Russia, China, or the US pushed thered button.
    It will because all of us let the red button exist.
    Look how much the Islamic extremests hate us, look how much we hate them back.
    Look at the anti Black comments and similar made in another thread.

    Until we, and by we I mean every one of s think like, "In principle" the Dalai llama, we are at risk of blowing the shit out of ourselves. Those rd buttons exist because we tolerate and to a degree support and encourage them to exist. So its not the Pollys, or the Militarys fault. It is ever single person on earth who lets it happen.
     
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  9. nivek

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    What anti black comments? I missed that...
     
  10. notdej

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    Yeah exactly, 'only a couple'= Going by this & the rest of what you said sounds to me like you're part of the problem with this attitude.

    IMO you've placed yourself in the small minority! Yeah people do get angry at times but it's rare in every day life.

    I'm in the east end of London & 'the VAST majority' of folk (black, Asian, Chinese etc) all get on great! The media tells us all that this is not the case but that's BS!! A very small minority cause all the problems where I live & it's always the same ones! I bet that's the same everywhere........
     
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  11. Dundee

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    And your quick to fire and blame my attitude, and not try to understand why I feel that way. = Conflict not understanding.
    And you fired at me the other day in another thread all guns blazing.
    And I fired back.
    Very Dalai Llama like of us both.
    Which is exactly the point I am trying to make.
    If you were the Dalai Llama, what might have been your response to my feelings about society.

    This place has become mighty aggressive of late with the arrival of a few, and it doesn't feel very nice anymore.
    And yes I have participated, and could have chose to ignore.
    But some people bring the best out of us, some bring the worst.

    I am bowing out, or its just going to happen here too.
     
  12. Kchoo

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    See?
    Humanity IS flawed... indeed..
    including, you, including me... Nuclear Arsenals are just a symptom of flawed humanity..
     
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  13. Kchoo

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    The Psychology of Nuclear Arsenals:
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    I am powerful...
    I can get rid of you if I want to...
    Right now, I simply choose not to...

    See?
    Powerful ME!

    I AM capable, but don't worry...
    I wont do it just yet..
    Look at ME!
    I AM powerful!

    See?
    Powerful ME!
     
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  14. Kchoo

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    The Psychology of the Universe
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    I am here...
    Your Sun has a giant nuclear furnace...

    A gift to you from me.

    See?
    Powerful Me?

    Count the stars...
    Thousands of Thousands!

    I am here!
    Can you see?

    Look at me...
    See?
     
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  15. Shadowprophet

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    People disagree sometimes. And sometimes they argue. That doesn't make these two not friends. It just makes us all human. One thing I admire about both Dej and Dundee is their character. Both are forgiving Both are intelligent. This is nothing and will easily blow over.
     
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  16. Tate

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    If you can not see how Redundant the Title of the thread is then i feel bad for the future of humanity.
     
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  17. Shadowprophet

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    This sums it up perfectly.
     
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  18. Dundee

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    People disagree I know, but it is our intolerance or each other that causes it all. Including my own.
     
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  19. Dundee

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    The point I was trying to make that a trip back to the stone age as a reset might be a better alternative to what weapons might really be hiding out there. You don't seriously think that nukes is all that has been developed by the superpowers since WW2 do you? I am betting they have biological weapons they could drop on a country that will wipe out every human being, and then dissipate into nothing in a week leaving all the resources. I am betting the superpowers have weapons we have not even dreamed of.
    All I was trying to say was that the devil we know is bad enough. But may be our only way to be here in 100 years.
    It was just a though.
     
  20. Tate

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    Viruses and the Elite having a cure would be a more Apt way of describing wiping out what the government calls Mindless eater's. What would we do then? Nukes would leave the world too ruined for any life to be sustained. The redundancy of actually using nukes would keep us from it unless someone was crazy. "Like Rocket Boy"
     

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