Is the Magnesium recovered in UFO crashes part of their propulsion system?

[Jim_from_the_South]

I've been reading recently about some magnesium pieces that were recovered in 1957 during a crash of a UFO in Brazil. Testing was done on it, and it revealed that the normal trace elements and impure portions were not evident in the samples. Of course they later claimed that everything was normal, nothing to see here, move along please. But initially they were believed to be even more pure than those produced on earth.

Then I happened across this item:

Magnesium Injection Cycle (MAGIC) is an engine design under development by Mitsubishi Corporation and the Tokyo Institute of Technology that uses magnesium and water to generate power. The engine also makes use of solar-powered lasers.

The joint project, initiated in 2005 and still in the experimental stage, developed a prototype carbon dioxide (CO2)-free engine in 2006 that ran successfully without the need for fossil fuels. The chemical reaction between magnesium (in a powder form) and water at room temperature produces high-energy steam and hydrogen. The hydrogen is burned at the same time to produce additional high-energy steam. These two steam sources power the engine. The energy cycle produces no carbon dioxide or other harmful emissions. The only by-products of this reaction are water and magnesium oxide. The magnesium (a common metallic element) is separated from the oxygen through a solar-powered laser process (the development of which is already well advanced) and is reused over and over again as fuel.

Despite its small dimensions (approx. 5 cm in diameter and 13.5 cm in height), the engine can generate a heat output of several tens of kW from which power is obtained. The engine is intended for use in co-generation [Power companies], automobiles, ships, and many other areas. A statement in 2006 claimed that further research was planned to achieve commercialization within the next three years. No updated timeline has been released.

And probably no more will be, since the oil companies probably stepped all over it.

What's more, solar-powered lasers are used to renew the magnesium fuel with the only waste product being oxygen. The cycle is relatively simple: magnesium powder is mixed with water (H2O) at room temperature, upon which a chemical reaction occurs bonding the magnesium with the oxygen and creating heat energy. What's left is hydrogen, which is collected and burned to produce more heat with water as its byproduct.

The cycle renews itself by applying solar-powered lasers to break the oxidized magnesium back down to metallic magnesium and oxygen. The only energy used is sunlight while the waste products are oxygen, hydrogen and water. As for magnesium , it's hardly rare - the light, shiny metal is the ninth-most common element in the universe, makes up 2 percent of the earth's crust and is the third-most common element dissolved in seawater.

They are talking about a tiny engine (less than two inches by five inches)
which provides tens of kW (40 kW = 53.64 hp )
and is self-renewing. And as a bonus it gives off oxygen, for those
oxygen breathers out there.

Accepting that a more technologically advanced culture could make these even more powerful for a similar size, could this be part of their propulsion system used on UFO craft?

My own opinion is that these craft, in the past, had two propulsion systems - one to get them off the ground up to say a hundred feet, after which another type took over and blasted them out of sight.

Any thoughts on this?

 

[spacecase0]

from what I have read, once the crafts are running they make the power they need,
but what you are talking about would be a great way to start them up.

 

[Jim_from_the_South]

from what I have read, once the crafts are running they make the power they need,
but what you are talking about would be a great way to start them up.

Yes, it's my understanding also - that they might use some type of iodized salt as the source of their fuel, that they make the power as they go along, and the reports that UFOs are noisy at first and then silent tends to support this idea.

 

[SOUL-DRIFTER]

The 1957 case I recall reading about in 1972.
Magnesium is common throughout the universe.
I believe it is one favored metal for the lightweight qualities.
It may be used in some crafts, but it is pure guess as to what and where on a craft.
In my opinion a craft from an advanced species will draw energy from dark energy or perhaps tap into the river of invisible energy that flows from one universe into all others(the multiverse).
Rotating and alternating EM fields.....

 

[Jim_from_the_South]

The 1957 case I recall reading about in 1972.
Magnesium is common throughout the universe.
I believe it is one favored metal for the lightweight qualities.
It may be used in some crafts, but it is pure guess as to what and where on a craft.
In my opinion a craft from an advanced species will draw energy from dark energy or perhaps tap into the river of invisible energy that flows from one universe into all others(the multiverse).
Rotating and alternating EM fields.....

Yes, it is common. One thing that was different about this Magnesium specimen was that it did not contain the same percentage of impurities and trace elements that we commonly see here on Earth. But that doe not necessarily make it alien, just part of some project that has not been published. Perhaps what they call the secret space force, which is really not much of a secret anymore.
I like your rotating and alternating electromagnetic fields theory.

 

[SOUL-DRIFTER]

You are correct on that report and there was another from the 1960s. I just do not remember the report.
One problem I have brought up is the Multiverse on a number of points.
If we do have a multiverse(I am convinced we do) then it will be impossible to narrow down much of anything. Take recovered material. A scientist may say it is from Earth. OK. Can we be certain it is from...our Earth. Or could it be from an Earth of another universe. A universe where humans are much more advanced than us here an on occasion visit us.
And those arguments can be applied across the broad on the UFO subject.
It is my belief that opening portal, doorway or whatever you wish to call it, is far easier than FTL travel. And that a vast majority of our otherworldly visitors come here from the multiverse.

Yes, I have a hunch that a two counter rotating EM fields. At the right energy level, speed and frequency could open up a doorway, and manipulated correctly produce field dependant propulsion for deep space travel. I feel the multiverse can be used as shortcuts across space in ours.

 

[Jim_from_the_South]

You are correct on that report and there was another from the 1960s. I just do not remember the report.
One problem I have brought up is the Multiverse on a number of points.
If we do have a multiverse(I am convinced we do) then it will be impossible to narrow down much of anything. Take recovered material. A scientist may say it is from Earth. OK. Can we be certain it is from...our Earth. Or could it be from an Earth of another universe. A universe where humans are much more advanced than us here an on occasion visit us.
And those arguments can be applied across the broad on the UFO subject.
It is my belief that opening portal, doorway or whatever you wish to call it, is far easier than FTL travel. And that a vast majority of our otherworldly visitors come here from the multiverse.

Yes, I have a hunch that a two counter rotating EM fields. At the right energy level, speed and frequency could open up a doorway, and manipulated correctly produce field dependant propulsion for deep space travel. I feel the multiverse can be used as shortcuts across space in ours.

I'm not personally a follower of multiverse theories. I'm more of a physical craft type. But you present
some interesting things to chew on, so thanks.

 

[SOUL-DRIFTER]

This is where people get the wrong idea.
Physical crafts, CAN come from other universes.
Other universes are just as physical and solid as ours. They just exist on a different time/space scale.

 

[Jim_from_the_South]

This is where people get the wrong idea.
Physical crafts, CAN come from other universes.
Other universes are just as physical and solid as ours. They just exist on a different time/space scale.

Well, with a big mountain of due respect, I agree that they could, but disagree that the time/space differences exist. They may, but my research leads me in another direction.

Well, rather than be coy I will tell you where I am coming from. I have quite a bit of research that tells me that this other dimension, multi-dimension, other space-time continuum etc., arose from suggestions by the Intelligence Agencies, most notably the CIA and NSA and not from a solid following that would have arisen by itself. It's another way in which to get our eyes off the UFO prize, in my less than humble opinion. The same thing, in my opinion, is seen by those who claim that all UFOs are either ghosts, spirits or demons.

In my opinion, the powers that be will do absolutely anything to keep the theories of Einstein alive, and thus the simplest explanation - that they go faster than light at times, is replaced by worm holes, time shifts, alternate realities, hyper-space, other dimensions and all of those related ideas.

But again, what you believe is great for you and I wish you the best of luck in your researches.

 

[SOUL-DRIFTER]

I did not pull this belief out of the air.
I got it...mostly..from the reports of encounters.
Many close encounters have the UFO occupants telling that they are from another universe/dimension and that time flows differently in them. In one report 2 hours in their universe is equivalent to 4 days here. I have read similar but with different time differences.
Also many scientist are supporting the multiverse idea as it reportedly mathematically explains many things.
Proof is reportedly soon to come from the LHC.

I do not believe those Agencies either, but it did not come from them, nope.

 

[Jim_from_the_South]

Also many scientist are supporting the multiverse idea as it reportedly mathematically explains many things.
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No, I don't believe you made it out of whole cloth. But your comment above is exactly what I am talking about - the scientists use these ideas to explain the Einstein equations that do not work. So they come up with plugs, ones of which is quantum physics, and the other is this idea of a multiverse "which mathematically explains the equations". Why would you need to explain an equation? Shouldn't it be mathematically supported and both provable and repeatable?
And the truth is that these equations are in error, but they do not wish to admit it.

 

[SOUL-DRIFTER]

The existence of a Multiverse explains lots.
Eventually it will be proven.
You could bet on it.