Jeremy Corbell on the “JUNE REPORT” Bob Lazar and the release of more footage!!

dr wu

Noble
I really don't understand why people keep supporting Lazar....this guy is not being honest and never has been imho.
He ruins any credibility that someone might try to bring to the ufo enigma.
This is a large part of why most people, the public at large, see the ufo phenomenon as a circus.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I really don't understand why people keep supporting Lazar....this guy is not being honest and never has been imho.
He ruins any credibility that someone might try to bring to the ufo enigma.
This is a large part of why most people, the public at large, see the ufo phenomenon as a circus.

And Jeremy Corbell as his promoter and mouthpiece certainly doesn't offer up any credibility IMO...

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Mixing pure bullshit in with truth is s.o.p in intelligence circles. Corbell's a 'useful idiot' IMO. Am I a paranoid conspiracy theorist? Nope. Oswald did it, we really really went to the Moon and the Trade Centers came down because they were hit by big aircraft full of fuel at high speed not missiles.

But I see a counterintelligence officer purporting to offer 'the truth' while associating with people who loudly peddle pure bullshit. Is DoD still saying Elizondo 'had no assigned duties' ?
 
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nivek

As Above So Below
Mixing pure bullshit in with truth is s.o.p in intelligence circles. Corbell's a 'useful idiot' IMO. Am I a paranoid conspiracy theorist? Nope. Oswald did it, we really really went to the Moon and the Trade Centers came down because they were hit by big aircraft full of fuel at high speed not missiles.

But I see a counterintelligence officer purporting to offer 'the truth' while associating with people who loudly peddle pure bullshit. Is DoD still saying Elizondo 'had no assigned duties' ?

Well then you have George Knapp who is also showing support for Lazar, even if in subtle ways sometimes, what gives with that?... @Dean has question Knapp on this many times...

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dr wu

Noble
And Jeremy Corbell as his promoter and mouthpiece certainly doesn't offer up any credibility IMO...

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And this on wiki.....
"Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell is an American contemporary artist, documentary filmmaker, and UFO enthusiast based in Los Angeles, California. Corbell is a mixed media artist whose exhibitions combine art, fashion and film. He is also a photographer, fashion designer and author"

An entertainer...that speaks volumes to me......no doubt he's a true believer but is he riding the gravy train..?
 

JahaRa

Noble
I really don't understand why people keep supporting Lazar....this guy is not being honest and never has been imho.
He ruins any credibility that someone might try to bring to the ufo enigma.
This is a large part of why most people, the public at large, see the ufo phenomenon as a circus.
I have considered the possibility that he is a disinformation agent, paid by someone to muddy the water and make outrageous claims.
 

JahaRa

Noble
Well then you have George Knapp who is also showing support for Lazar, even if in subtle ways sometimes, what gives with that?... @Dean has question Knapp on this many times...

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No one knew who George Knapp was until he teamed up with Lazar years ago.
 
No one knew who George Knapp was until he teamed up with Lazar years ago.
I consider Knapp and Lazar to be de facto business partners. I doubt either of them would have been as famous without the other. If Knapp had done his due diligence before releasing his Story of the Century, he'd have lost the guy's phone number. Lazar might have gained some attention elsewhere, but Lazar and Knapp made for a powerful mixture of bullshit and dynamite. We're still dealing with the stinking residue.
 

Dean

Adept Dabbler
Well then you have George Knapp who is also showing support for Lazar,@Dean has questioned Knapp on this many times...

The day the Director of National Intelligence's UAP report was issued, George Knapp did a report on it KLAS-TV in Las Vegas. He presented the DNI public report as a long-overdue acknowledgment by the military that there is a legitimate mystery, and "if we're ever going to figure it out, we have to assign it to someone, establish a framework for that," etc.

But how does this square with George Knapp having spent 32 years promoting, enhancing, and defending the tales of Bob Lazar? In the Lazar-Knapp alternate universe, the government in 1988 [and according to Lazar, years before that] already had a program to study 9 intact, captive alien spacecraft-- at least one of which they were flying around. If the Lazar tale were true, then what the Director of National Intelligence is now telling the American people -- and telling Congress and the White House -- would be at bottom a grotesque web of lies, either perpetrated by or on the DNI. In that alternate universe, there would be no great mystery, and any claim that the government was taking dramatic new steps to investigate would be a sham, because the U.S. government possessed intact, operating alien technology decades ago.

Remember, Lazar even claimed even to have pilfered a sample of an alien isotope of Element 115 that could defeat gravity, create sun-like power, and create force fields-- this was one of the ludicrous Lazar claims promoted in a lucrative 2018 "documentary" film, directed by Knapp's protege Jeremy Corbell, and produced by Knapp.

In reality, Bob Lazar was a fake scientist (even Knapp said he doesn't believe Lazar ever attended MIT or Caltech as claimed), a real felon, a smart-aleck kid who made up stories. Lazar has told contradictory stories for decades. None of Lazar's remarkable claims have been truly corroborated; many or his statements and accounts have been disproved by public records or contradicted by Lazar himself. Yet Knapp continues to defend the Lazar tales, and to polish them. Indeed, both Lazar and Corbell have both suggested, in the recent past, that recent revelations about UFOs contain vindication for Lazar's claims, although it should be patently obvious that the converse is the case.

It boils down to this: If the Lazar story promoted by Knapp for 32 years is true (it's not), then at least some officials high in the government must now be parties to an enormous new deception of Congress and the American people. Yet rather than screaming bloody murder about what would be a highly newsworthy outrage, Knapp instead is celebrating the DNI-Pentagon's new attitude towards the UFO "mystery."

You see, Knapp wants to have it both ways-- but that won't wash.

UAP Report Released – George Knapp reports on KLAS-TV – Mystery Wire

As to questioning Knapp: A couple of years ago, I began by politely asking some fairly basic questions of Knapp. He did not deign to respond. However, I found that ample information was available for those who look behind the original Lazar-Knapp narrative, or behind the key Knapp-Corbell marketing talking points (e.g., that this or that development vindicates Lazar, that Lazar has always told the same story, that Lazar has never profited, etc.-- none of withstand critical scrutiny). After awhile, I became a bit less polite and somewhat more insistent in raising certain points. Knapp and his acolyte, J.K.L. Corbell, then did respond-- by blocking me on Twitter.

It doesn't matter. I no longer have many questions for Knapp on matters pertaining to the Lazar saga. I have reconstructed enough of the history to have a good grasp of Knapp's role in the entire affair, and the manner in which he has employed his craft--and on this matter, the craft of which I speak is a far cry from journalism. It is more akin to the work of the manager of a mid-level, trouble-prone rock star-- sometimes a headache, but still the golden boy. The Lazar legend owes as much or more to Knapp as it does to Lazar.

Knapp, Corbell, and Lazar himself are careful only to subject themselves to prolonged questioning by acolytes or others poorly equipped to press them on any of the innumerable weak spots in the Lazar house of cards. In my opinion, the Lazar narrative would come apart like wet cardboard in two hours of questioning by a competent and well-informed journalist, or in a debate run by standard neutral rules-- or under oath with enforceable penalties for perjury and compulsory production of documents.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Knapp and his acolyte, J.K.L. Corbell, then did respond-- by blocking me on Twitter.

It doesn't matter. I no longer have many questions for Knapp on matters pertaining to the Lazar saga. I have reconstructed enough of the history to have a good grasp of Knapp's role in the entire affair, and the manner in which he has employed his craft--and on this matter, the craft of which I speak is a far cry from journalism. It is more akin to the work of the manager of a mid-level, trouble-prone rock star-- sometimes a headache, but still the golden boy. The Lazar legend owes as much or more to Knapp as it does to Lazar.

Knapp, Corbell, and Lazar himself are careful only to subject themselves to prolonged questioning by acolytes or others poorly equipped to press them on any of the innumerable weak spots in the Lazar house of cards. In my opinion, the Lazar narrative would come apart like wet cardboard in two hours of questioning by a competent and well-informed journalist, or in a debate run by standard neutral rules-- or under oath with enforceable penalties for perjury and compulsory production of documents.

I've never spoken to G. Knapp on Twitter but I have had a couple brief discussions with J. Corbell and he blocked me from speaking with him anymore...Corbell doesn't like the hard questions that could expose their schemes...

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