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  1. Dean

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    Here is a video clip of George Knapp, speaking to a UFO conference in Denmark in 2014, describing a sample of an alien-made isotope of Element 115, which Knapp believes Bob Lazar controls (after swiping it from a secret government program). If the story were true (it's not), the sample would constitute physical proof of alien visitation. After telling a story intended to illustrate the power of the alien isotope, Knapp says he knows where the sample is hidden. This claim by Lazar and Knapp has now been asserted for 31 years, yet no "disclosure" -- sharing of the purported alien isotope with independent analysts -- has occurred.

     
  2. Dean

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    Recently on another forum, during a discussion of an aspect of the Lazar saga, somebody indicated uncertainty about what George Knapp's thinking has been with respect to the Lazar claims. This was my reply:

    It is doubtful if Bob Lazar's tall tales would have ever been more than a short-lived local color story, had it not been for the manner in which George Knapp latched onto Lazar's claims and relentlessly promoted them, especially in multiple hyped-up reports on KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, but by many other means as well.

    The relationship quickly became something other than an orthodox journalist-whistleblower arrangement. It was more akin the relationship between a manager and a trouble-prone rock star. When Lazar was arrested in 1990 for running a house of prostitution (with holes cut in the wall for photography), Knapp energetically defended him and even mobilized the local congressman -- to no avail, as Lazar pleaded guilty to one felony, order to avoid prosecution on multiple felonies. The details were far more sordid than the sanitized-to-fictionalized versions later disseminated by Lazar and by Knapp.

    Knapp was also heavily involved in an unsuccessful 1996 attempt by Lazar to withdraw his guilty plea -- the court documents in that proceeding make fascinating and sometimes amusing reading. Knapp played a key role in developing, and has never ceased to endorse, the baseless conspiracy theory that agencies of the federal government "erased" Bob Lazar's personal records, including his academic records. Yet Knapp in 2014 confessed that he did not believe that that Lazar had ever attended MIT or Caltech -- a remarkable statement, since Lazar's claim to be a scientist (he's not) rested on his fabricated claims to hold a Master's degree from each of those schools. Lazar has utterly no record as a scientist.

    Knapp has promoted the unsubstantiated Lazar claims in venue after venue for over 31 years now. In 2014, Knapp gave a long speech about the Lazar saga, to a UFO conference in Denmark, in which he revealed perhaps more than he intended on some key points, including information about his own role in the affair up to that date.

    Knapp has also been a central player in the Lazar reemergence that began in 2018. Knapp is listed as a producer of the sensationalized, fictionalized, but highly profitable pseudo-documentary titled Bob Lazar, Area 51 & Flying Saucers, directed by self-identified Knapp progeny Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell. Knapp also wrote a 24-page introduction for Lazar's 2019 autobiography, Dreamland -- a curious work that contradicts previous Lazar accounts on many matters both major and minor, but which Bob Lazar himself marketed as his authentic true story. Knapp refuses to address these cascades of contradictions.

    Finally: Knapp has spent decades playing up Lazar's claim to possess a sample of a "stable isotope" of Element 115 -- a substance not existing in nature and not capable of human manufacture, possessing (in Lazar's accounts) multiple super-properties (antigravity, tremendous energy production, generation of force fields) -- in short, actual physical proof of alien visitation, if the stories were true. Knapp even told the Danes in 2014 that he (Knapp) knows where Lazar has hidden this superpowered, undeniably alien isotope. Knapp regularly calls for disclosure of purported government UFO secrets -- yet he wishes us to believe that his "whistleblower," Bob Lazar, possesses the ultimate physical proof of alien visitation, but for 31 years has chosen not to turn it over (under the media's watchful eye) to multiple independent analysts. So much for science. So much for "journalism."

    I could go on...
     
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  3. Rick Hunter

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    For better or worse, Lazar is always going to have a prominent place in Ufology. I am willing to believe that some of his story is true. He could well have worked at Los Alamos or A51, both places have employed thousands of people over the years. I could see him employed as a technician or something like that. Beyond that, I am not going to go. I have to admit I enjoy listening to Knapp when he hosts C2C, he is a good fit for that program.
     
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  5. Dean

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    It is hard to see the logic in an assertion that it may be justifiable to criticize Bob Lazar, but wrong to extend such criticism to George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell. As I summarized above, very few people would have ever heard of Bob Lazar, had it not been for Knapp's relentless promotion of Lazar as a bona fide whistleblower, assiduous attempts to shield Lazar from bad publicity, etc. As for Corbell, he has carried the streamlined Lazar remake to millions of new marks, and added new elements to the Lazar mythology (e.g., the narrative that the FBI raided Lazar's business looking for a sample of an alien isotope that Lazar pilfered from the alien-spacecraft program). In short, both Knapp and Corbell have played major roles in crafting and propagating the great Lazar hoax, and they are fairly subject to fact-based criticism for their roles.
     
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  6. Double Nought Spy

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    What a stinking pile of childish, self-righteous bullshit.
    Both of those clowns are business partners of Lazar at this point in the scam. Pitiful.
     
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  7. Jack Frostman

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    My favourite Knapp story is when he mentioned how Bob was on edge thinking the gov was out to get him. He said one time he went to Bob's house , Bob was holding an Uzi ready for anyone that came to get him.

    Knapp then said Bob had a particle accelerator aimed at some E115 that he was going to flick the switch on should anyone come to get him. Knapp says it would have caused an explosion that would have taken out Las Vegas.
    Yet, Knapp did nothing and alerted no one.

    Think about it. Knapp lives in Las Vagas , thought Bob was on edge and had his finger on a city destroying bomb, yet did nothing. I mean. You have got to be bonkers to believe the Bob story or Knapp
     
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  8. Toroid

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    Welcome to AE. :)
     
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  11. Jack Frostman

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    After investigating Bob for 8 months almost full time for a doco on YT I was going to do. I realised soon that the story isn't so much about Bob, but really it's about belief bias. We all suffer from it one way or the other. It's about wanting to believe in something so much that you ignore any contradicting information, and more importantly , just take things as has been said without checking if it's true, simply because it's in line with what you believe.

    You saw it in full demonstration when Rogan interviewed Bob. Rogan can really dig into people and question every detail about what they say. But when Lazar was on, he just took everything he said at face value without question. Why, because he wants to believe in the story. It's something he believes in. Therefor he doesn't question things that line with his beliefs.

    There wouldn't be a Bob Lazar story if it were not for belief bias. That thing that blinds people from questioning things and discovering the truth.
     
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  13. Jack Frostman

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    Remember the time Bob the "Senior Theoretical Physicist" at Los Alamos National Laboratory installed a satellite dish ?
    Such a Senior Theoretical Physicist thing to do isn't it.

    Watch from 9:20 in ->

     
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  15. Dejan Corovic

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    AlienScientist just published a video on youtube where he talks with a guy whose friend is a pilot. That pilot flew his plane into Area 51 during a Christmass eve and took hundreds of pictures amongst which Papus lake and location known as S4 where Lazar indicated hangers with UFOs should be:



    go to 26:00

    As well there is a public Google Drive folder full of photos this pilot took, with Area 51 hangers and airstips etc

    12-25-2020 NTTR - Google Drive
     
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  16. Jack Frostman

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    Remember when Bob told an audience at a 1993 Rachel talk, that his professors at MIT and Caltech were Duxler and Hohsfield. Neither were foiund to have ever taught at MIT and Caltech

    Meet Hohsfield. A teacher from Bob's Highschool, he is in Bob's HS yearbook of 1976, the last year Bob was there

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  17. Rick Hunter

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    Just perfect, he looks like someone who would have been Bob's teacher.
     
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    Here is a later 1978 color copy of Hohsfield
     
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