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nivek

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Pentagon shows Senate mysterious flying orb spotted by Reaper drone in the Middle East in UFO hearing: Says 650 unexplained objects are being tracked - but insists they've found NO evidence of extraterrestrial activity

A Senate hearing on the Pentagon's 'Anomaly Resolution Office' that tracks UFOs featured testimony that most of the hundreds of cases being reviewed are based on 'readily explainable' phenomena – while revealing footage of a mysterious flying orb that is still 'unresolved.'

Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick of DOD's All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office told the Senate Armed Services Committee that hundreds of sightings of spherical or oddly shaped objects spotted by military pilots remain under review.

'I should also state clearly for the record that in our research AARO has found no credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity, off-world technology or objects that defy the known laws of physics,' Kirkpatrick told the panel.

The rare hearing, the first since last year's pathbreaking public event and the first since the Chinese spy balloon that crossed the country early this year, included an accounting of the cases the new office is analyzing.
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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
This isn't the fun answer and nobody wants (or will) to believe it but yeah, Sean Kirkpatrick is no dummy and I don't think he's a stooge. Even if it is ET you can't ignore what the man has to say. It may explain why the other objects shot down recently fell out of the news cycle so quickly.
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
Totally agree with you, however he still has to do what his superiors tell him to do. Saying there is no evidence of ET is not the same thing as saying it is not ET.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I've been trying to read In Plain Sight: An investigation into UFOs and impossible science by Ross Coulthart for some time and it's very good. My fault, keep getting distracted and I just haven't given it my full attention - stopped and started a few times. But it did get me thinking about the very early days of UFO reporting, right after WW2 and people like Walter Bedell Smith. Walter Bedell Smith - Wikipedia
Hard to dismiss someone like that. You need a pop culture reference it's Karl Malden in Patton.

Put it in context. Large parts of the world were in smoking ruin, millions dead and displaced and a growing nuclear threat. It's been said many times that the technology observed couldn't possibly exist at the time and that's true. Put yourself in his shoes or others like him. You realize it's a huge stretch that any contemporary was responsible; speculation along those lines is probably the genesis of the Nazi technology mythology. So what to do about it? The one thing that I've seen over and over again is that 'the military' specifically the Air Force wanted nothing to do with any of that other than to dismiss and belittle it for fear of an uncontrollable public reaction. Set in the context of the time it makes sense. Can't do ****all about any of it anyway and you don't want to hand your adversary a weapon to use against you i.e. use public hysteria as a mask for an attack or something else unpleasant. Look at the 'Battle of LA' that was (really really to quote Shrek) most likely weather balloons. Rewind just slightly and the same hysteria was present after Pearl Harbor with planes being shot out of the sky well after it was apparent they weren't a threat.

What's also true is that in that era there was no cohesive agreement on any of this, just like today. This topic was like trying to herd kittens then and it is now. So what to do? Back then the recipe was to dismiss it publicly to prevent people from going ape**** and try to take a quiet private look. People like Smith were certainly well aware of what that [public hysteria] looked like, they'd seen it. What's happened between then and now is the pile on. Someone dresses up as an evil clown, gets themselves noticed and suddenly people see them everywhere. Hate to say it but this is where Gene Steinberg could weigh in intelligently on the hosts of lunatics and fakers in the early years. There were also many, many sincere people who were simply mistaken. Later it was people like Charles Berlitz & William Moore, Whitley Strieber, Ray Stanford, Bob Lazar and yada yada yada and out the other end comes Jeremy Corbell. I'm starting to foam at the mouth.

Fast forward to now. The technology to appear to have extraordinary capabilities certainly exists and there are near peer adversaries bent upon using it. Look at the hue and the cry over Chinese balloons and how quickly the other shootdowns fell from the news cycle. What we see and hear in the media is only a fraction of the story that we may only know years from now. In amongst all that are the truly high strange cases with no explanation that absolutely suggest some sort of third party, to put it conservatively. But right now, today, this instant, what do you think Kirkpatrick could possibly say? To deviate from what he already has too far risks overlooking foreign activity and his credibility. So, they turned up the big Norad dial in response to a credible foreign threat that I personally think is important. Kind of surprised we hadn't already, but history is replete with unprepared people who should have been. Putting the search for ET is putting the cart before the horse - let them look for what we know is a threat and maybe, just maybe they'll find that Golden Wonka Ticket we all hope for.
 
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Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
It may never be announced that some UAPs are non-human technology. I think the phenomenon is smart enough to be in control of the situation --that's the only reason the topic is being addressed again after decades --more pressure from the phenomenon. In Kirkpatrick's spare time, he seems to have a different view of the possibilities:

 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Right?

Even if we were presented with incontrovertible evidence of an alien spacecraft in our skies who says they even want to be contacted or bother with us? Who says we'd even recognize it ? I've wondered if they came for a while in the last century, looked around and left and everything since then has been akin to that 'evil clown syndrome' I mentioned.

I have no problem if Kirkpatrick and Loeb want to talk over radical ideas, shows an open mind. they're smarter than most ten people put together (and that's a low estimate) It's the ones prone to ridicule that have been the problem all along. Ultimately they'll fail to look through Galileo's telescope even if something is found.
 

Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
I wish they would have asked questions about the "anomalous cases", whether they can be detected in space, and the historicity of the phenomenon. I am sure the truth will come out eventually.
 
As expected, McMillan seems to share my concerns on the access:
View: https://twitter.com/LtTimMcMillan/status/1648790192663166976

"One of the most significant, but undiscussed things that came up on today’s UAP hearing was the revelation that AARO doesn’t have Title 50 authority. What this means is that AARO has limited access to Title 50 information, which includes covert action and most Intelligence missions carried out by agencies like the CIA, NRO, NGA, or NSA.
By saying “It would be nice to have Title 50 authority,” Kirkpatrick was taking a huge shot across the bow at Title 50 agencies that likely haven’t been playing ball with AARO. In essence, AARO may only have access to 20% of the U.S.’s full collection potential. " - Tim McMillan
"Does this include no access to some sensor data?" -Carl Stanland
"Yes. This could mean no access to the most sophisticated and sensitive sensor packages that are strictly used for intelligence missions or covert action." - Tim McMillan

If one doesn't have access to a lot of the data needed to come to full conclusions and their office can't even work optimally, how much worth is their "no evidence of aliens" comment then? Or anything following they happen to do or discover?

You can send a hundred whistleblowers to Kirkpatrick, but if he can't follow up on them for any reason, what good is that?

I find it strange that they have an office that is supposed to solve the problem but then can't really have access.

It's like:

"Were giving you a job, find these important things in the archives. They are very important for us. Search the whole archives for them if you have to, they could be anywhere."

"Ok, boss"

A couple of minutes later the main archive director arrives. "So boss gave you a job right?"

"Yep! Have to search for these things, might be all over the archives."

"Oh wait" the director says and pulls out the map of the archives "But theres just some things you need to know before starting." Points to the large darker section of the archive map, which covers most of it. "You are not allowed to go here, or here, or here, and don't even try to gain access to this part here. You're not even allowed to ask what is in there. Well good luck!"

Whole effort is neutered if they have little access or cooperation. It does seem like a show or a game put forth to us all. A lipservice effort that is passed around as genuine, but hindered and not given chance to work optimally.
 
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Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
Reminds me of NASA "studying" UFOs without access to the classified footage / sensor data. A fool's errand. Changing the acronyms, creating programs to study the phenomenon blindfolded, and claiming there is no "proof" the objects are extraterrestrial based on the cases fed to these programs, is quite a strategy. Imagine if tomorrow the UFOs flew back and forth over the US Capitol like they did in '52 --then things would heat up. I wish someone would ask these puppets about all of the sightings at White Sands during missile tests... Release the classified footage!
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I think there are reasons that an advanced civilization would avoid public Interactions with humans. Imagine, if you would, that we humans got the opportunity to travel to a distant alien planet. Imagine, on this planet, there are beings who know nothing about other life in the universe, they are simply starving for information about us, our physiology, our technology, our biological. Now imagine a man guilty of a very serious crime, going to prison for the first time.



In short, the guy going to prison would be many times safer than one of us on an alien planet like that. We wouldn't be coming back, and none of our pieces would ever be found.

A truly rational intelligence would defiantly swipe right rather than speak to a truly predator class civilization. Sure, it sounds harsh to the ears to hear that,, But that doesn't make it untrue.
 

nivek

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Newly released UFO video broken down 'frame by frame' by Pentagon official: 'Truly anomalous'

The Pentagon released a video of a reported UFO flying at a high rate of speed in the vicinity of Air Force MQ-9 Reaper drones that "showed some really interesting things that everyone thought was truly anomalous."

The object flew over South Asia earlier this year and appeared to have a propulsion trail, but it was later determined to be a "sensor artifact," Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick explained.

It was the second of two videos that the director of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) showed lawmakers during the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities hearing on April 19.

The first was an "unresolved" UAP – unidentified anomalous phenomena, which is the government-created word for UFO – in an active conflict zone in the Middle East in 2022.


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