Donald Menzel = known government shill made career as anti-ufo (any kind) propaganda agent. No ufos of any kind. Vallee's answer, being the computer guy he is, is that it's neither military or 3D ETs, but interdimensionals only. Matrix. nivek = both military and 3D ETs? Greer = all three are correct. I go with Dr Greer. "Boom. Zap. Just like that!"