Mystery gas cloud on Sussex coast

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  1. nivek

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    Mystery gas cloud on Sussex coast 'a meteorological phenomenon'

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    A gas cloud which affected hundreds of people along the East Sussex coast was a "meteorological phenomenon", an expert says.

    Residents were urged to keep windows and doors closed after the unknown haze emerged on Sunday, causing 133 people to seek treatment for streaming eyes, sore throats and nausea.

    Police are now trying to determine what type of gas caused the "chemical haze", which now appears to have dissipated.

    Consultant toxicologist Dr John Hoskins said it may have been generated from German or French traffic pollution which drifted over the English Channel, and could reappear again.

    He told Sky News: "Certainly it came across the Channel because it is in a peculiar part of the country to get anything that was generated in even the nearest large town, Brighton.

    "(Its concentration) was just a meteorological phenomenon, you have to know exactly how the wind blows.

    "It seems the weather generally tends to push things into that part of the coast… the tides and the winds go that way."

    Dr Hoskins added that Sunday's hot and sunny weather "created essentially what was photochemical smog which contained a number of chemicals dangerous to health".

    "There was also the so-called smell of chlorine," he said. "That was almost certainly not chlorine, it was the smell of ozone which is a very similar smell.

    "Ozone goes for the chest and or the heart. It is impossible to predict and it could have blown up into the air or in this case it blew down to ground level.

    "It's a phenomenon we are liable to find on the streets of any town or city."

    Public Health England is urging anyone who is still suffering the effects of irritation to irrigate their eyes and wash any other agitated areas with plenty of soap and water.

    Irritation was initially reported by tourists visiting the clifftops and beach at Birling Gap near Eastbourne just before 5pm.

    The effects of the haze were also reported as far as Bexhill and towards Hastings, more than 20 miles away.

    Mark Battershill, who was one of those affected, told Sky News he was left with stinging eyes and a sore throat after coming into contact with the mystery chemical.

    He said some people had complained that they were having difficulty breathing.

    Conditions are being monitored at Birling Gap, a popular tourist hotspot, throughout Bank Holiday Monday.

    Mystery gas haze 'a meteorological phenomenon'
     
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  2. iwant2believe2

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    Sounds more like chemical warfare to me...or maybe its Mother Nature fighting back
     
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  3. nivek

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    The traffic pollution theory sounds plausible, although such pollution gathering in cloud form and moving as such seems a bit of a reach, at least for me, I haven't heard of that happening before...
     
  4. iwant2believe2

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    It's plausible yes and the plausibility makes for a great cover story
     
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    This is true, it wouldn't be the first time...
     
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  6. Castle-Yankee54

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    So have they taken any samples for laboratory analysis?
     
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    Unless it was a terrorist attack using chlorine gas dispersed from a boat then it appears to be some other cause for the irritant gas.....perhaps from some form of industrial emission.

    Remember London has had "toxic fogs" in the past.....perhaps this is similar.
     
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    One explanation which I personally favor has to do with the expanding earth theory. Under this theory we are engaged in another planetary expansion event. Global warming was scheme to explain away what nature was itself doing and to also loot the population on a planetary scale, partly to fund the on-going means of combating what they think causes this to happen. So Chemtrails, Fracking, and other means are being employed to try to avert a planetary wide disaster, while doing so under hidden conditions, and in this way the existing power system can remain intact while the worker ants obliviously muddle along. Drowning, falling in sink holes, having their homes explode for no apparent reason, glaciers melting, some places freezing while next door the roads are melting, the earth shaking and booming, and all the while the true nature of what's going on is denied. Who cares if you die? Don't you realize you're not important? Accept your status as a peon and get to work, don't question anything, just get busy and buy, buy, buy! Obey, Obey, Obey!
     
  10. iwant2believe2

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    Reports from the 28th state that, based on weather models, it did not come from France but that the origin did come in from the sea. Not too difficult to pinpoint an industrial point of origin on the sea and off the immediate coast, is it? Ships and rigs are easy to account for. If this were an industrial accident, meteorological or otherwise natural phenomena then I expect that they would be much more forthcoming in updating the public. The silence is suspect, imo.
     
  11. Castle-Yankee54

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    That's why samples for laboratory analysis is important......and it would likely only be terrorists that would use chlorine gas. I'd say some industrial facility is letting out higher than allowed Sulphur emissions that is causing sulfuric acid gas which would cause the same irritating effects.

    The inly source for chemical weapons in England is a place called Porton Down.....but the chlorine gas wouldn't have been used or tested anymore as its no longer needed. Its the model-T of chemical weapons.
     
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    . You got terrorists in your underbunders. Yea, good ole mother earth couldn't possibly release gases huh, it's just got to be terrorists. They wouldn't dare falsify information and say it was a cloud released by terrorists instead of mother earth would they?
     
  13. iwant2believe2

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    Do you think those analysis have not already been run? Why not inform the public then of the results...unless the results would compromise a NS investigation...

    That's what I mean by a 'dirty weapon'

    What industrial facility at sea would this be? Weather models show the cloud came from off shore and indicated it was water borne. Again, how difficult could it be to pinpoint an industrial vessel in the area?

    Dirty weapon.

    I just think the lack of information is suspect and indicative of an ongoing NS or criminal investigation. Doesn't mean that will turn out to be so but since no industrial or natural source has been confirmed...why would you not be conducting a NS criminal investigation? Only other thing I can think of...which would necessarily implicate government/military/industrial complicity...is illegal maritime activity that went awry.

    And the I think the red tide theory is BS. I've been in severe red tides...the intensity of which would be necessary to cause the reported symptoms...and it never spontaneously appears. You know its coming. Furthermore, I've never seen one not produce copious amounts of dead fish. And they always issue a shellfish consumption ban.
     
  14. iwant2believe2

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    That I can't say as geological science is not my forte. Perhaps we should ask the resident geologist here. What do you think Castle? Could this be out gassing of some sort?
     
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    I just got done explaining that the entire system is covertly combating the planetary expansion. Chemtrails, hiding explosive oil geysers as well drilling explosions, drilling a bajillion holes in the ground all over the planet, fracking, Harp, and who knows what else, and so now you're talking about askings someone whose own profession is actively engaged in denying & hiding truth from the population?

    You do realize that an expert is a certified educator; professors are paid for by the State and or private institutions right?
    Now how are you going to get truth out of someone whose livelyhood depends on them following the party line? You don't seriously think any of these people dare tell you what they really think do you? They have families, mortages, auto loans, like most other people too, and then they also have 6 to 12 more years of education. They are going to risk that?

    Why am I even trying ?

    Yes, just forget it. Obviously the most logical thing is terrorists. First thing that popped to mind is Dika-dirka.
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    Seriously?...Really?.....Terrorists?

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    Alright, okay. I tried to ignore this but I can't. The truth is, I'd been holding in my vegan farts for 4 months but I just couldn't hold them in anymore. They leaked out while I slept, took on a malicious sentience and decided to kill kill kill.

    It was a big, murderous fart cloud.
     
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    I'm not asking about dancing terrorists, cover-ups or rabbit hole conspiracies. I'm asking a scientist about science. Novel concept I know but I like to be thorough when considering the opinions and theories of others. :Thumbsup:
     
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    One other thing...
    This scientist whose knowledgeable opinion you think I should distrust and dismiss on the unfounded suspicion that he is involved in some elaborate global conspiracy is not only a scientist but also a longtime friend. I think I will give him the benefit of doubt.
     
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    "Outgassing" by the expanding earth no its not likely as the expanding earth theory has been discredited since the 1970s. Its also on a very small scale. Volcanoes are responsible for much of the gas emissions from around the world. Has there been any volcanoes erupting near Iceland recently? Could it be caused by a oil rig in the North Sea hitting a gas pocket high in Sulphur...possibly....but this can only be confirmed by laboratory analysis.

    Sulfuric acid gas causes a very nasty reaction.....it was very unpleasant. It makes it hard to breath and makes your eyes water.....especially when the person suffers from respiratory problems like I was when I got gassed by a volcano in Hawaii.
     
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    I read a report that indicated a smell of burning plastic as well. I know the release of polymer fumes can cause toxicity...manifest as acute respiratory distress
     
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