Navy pilot who recorded UFO says he doesn't want to be associated with aliens.

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  1. Shadowprophet

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    • A Navy pilot who recorded an unidentified flying object in 2004 talked about the encounter in an interview with new york magazine
    • He said that he didn't want his name attached to speculation about an alien aircraft but that he still thought of the object as a UFO.
    The unidentified flying object resembled a Tic Tac.

    That's how the Navy pilot Chad Underwood described the thing he saw hurtling through the sky on November 10, 2004. Underwood recorded the object using an infrared camera after his commanding officer, David Fravor, spotted the unusual shape during a flight training exercise. For 15 years, Underwood remained largely silent about the encounter. But in an interview with new york magazine this week, he revealed what it was like to capture the UFO on video.

    "At no point did I want to speculate as to what I thought this thing was — or be associated with, you know, 'alien beings' and 'alien aircraft' and all that stuff," Underwood told the magazine. "It is just what we call a UFO. I couldn't identify it. It was flying. And it was an object. It's as simple as that." His video represents one of three known instances in which Navy pilots caught an unknown aerial object (the Navy prefers that term over UFO) on camera. The other two instances were on January 21st, 2015.

    A strange white object flying through the sky

    Before Underwood spotted the flying object, he said, he received a tip from his commanding officer that there might be something strange in the sky. A few days earlier, a guided-missile cruiser called the USS Princeton had been tracking about eight to 10 mysterious flying objects near the Catalina and San Clemente islands in California.

    "Dave Fravor was like, 'Hey, dude. BOLO.' Like, be on the lookout for just something weird," Underwood told New York magazine. The two men were working on combat exercises on the Navy's Super Hornet fighter jets. The day Underwood recorded the UFO, weather reports indicate there was a clear blue sky — but all of a sudden, he spotted what he called "a blip on his radar." An unclassified report from the department of defense described the object as "solid white" and "smooth," with a shape resembling "an elongated egg." Underwood was the one who coined the nickname "Tic Tac."

    "The thing that stood out to me the most was how erratic it was behaving," he told New York magazine. "Its changes in altitude, airspeed, and aspect were just unlike things that I've ever encountered before flying against other air targets."

    At one point, the object appeared to dart from a high altitude of about 60,000 feet to a low altitude of 50 feet "within seconds," according to the DOD report. At another point, it veered violently to the left. Underwood said the object definitely wasn't a bird or a weather balloon, and since it was moving at a speed of about 138 mph, it was presumably too slow to be an aircraft. It also had no wings or heat, which ruled out the possibility of a cruise missile.

    The DOD report said the object "possibly demonstrated the ability to 'cloak' or become invisible to the human eye" and might be able to "operate undersea completely undetectable by our most advanced sensors."

    There's no evidence that the object was extraterrestrial in nature

    Though UFOs are associated with aliens in popular culture, unidentified objects don't necessarily come from space — the term just applies to anything unknown. Seth Shostak, a senior astronomer at the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence Institute, Previously told Business insider that about 10% of UFO sightings didn't have explanations. Alien civilizations, he added, would know about our existence only if they were within about 35 light-years of Earth.

    "If they're more than 35 light-years away, there hasn't been enough time for our signals to get to them, and for them to decide, 'Well this is worth the money to go down there and fly around,'" he said. "The really good evidence that we're being visited still has failed to surface."

    Aliens aside, experts have offered other explanations for Underwood's UFO sighting.

    Former members of the military have suggested that glitches in the infrared camera in Underwood's plane may have been playing tricks on the pilot's eye. Retired Air Force Maj. James McGaha also proposed that the object might have appeared to veer dramatically because of the way Underwood was maneuvering his aircraft. Underwood told New York magazine that he wasn't able to see the object when it veered to the left but believed it moved on its own.

    "That part kind of sucks, because I can't confirm that the object aggressively accelerated that way," he said. "But I have my feelings, based on my experience with my equipment — and also just logic, when it comes to, you know, physics."

    He also dismissed the possibility that the UFO was part of covert tests done by NASA or the military. He told New York magazine that he was never instructed to keep silent about what he saw.

    "I've got top-secret clearance with a ton of special-project clearances," he said. "So, it's not like I wasn't cleared to know. Clearly, whatever it was, if it was a government project, I did not need to know."
     
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    Not all news is good news I assume, But it's news none the less, To me, This article still speaks of a government that ridicules and persecutes those that speak on the subjects of Ufology in the high levels of government.

    I mean, Consider the psychology in this, Why would someone want to go out of their way to not be known as the "Alien Guy" If there wasn't a resounding pressure to not be that guy... :whatever:
     
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    Hey all. New here. I always come and check out your guys comments.

    Anyways,
    So one thing I noticed when I listened to this guy in an interview was that he says he did NOT visually see the object yet He is the one who coined the object a "Tic-Tac"

    I find this odd considering the only visual reference for the object is the video footage which is quite grainy to say the least.

    Cheers
     
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    Firstly Welcome to AE :)

    Also

    I agree I feel this man was pressured to assume his current views on the subject. We have heard speculation for decades now about how being known as a pilot that has seen an unidentified aircraft can even hurt someone's post-military career.

    I feel this man cracked under, Pressure, weather it was paranoia or perceived pressure, Still. This man cracked, His message in ultimatum is he doesn't want to be associated with aliens. Which, If you think about it, That's a pretty specific complaint to put out in the wild arbitrarily really.
     
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    So your saying you think he's been told to say this or that he's just making it up? I'm not sure I follow
     
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    And thank you for the welcome. I read all your guys comments and find this site very intelligent and engaging. I especially love pigfarmers comments lol. I've been lurking around for a while so glad to be here.
     
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    I think He's probably someone with a lot of piloting experience logged and he's now seeking a job as a commercial pilot, Things of this nature probably don't bode well on a southwestern airlines application. I think the man feels his previous experience could impact his future Job opportunities. It may seem unfair. But Just as a lark, Put, somewhere on your next Job application, that you saw a UFO.

    See where I'm coming from here? I assume, From 2004 till current date, The man is now no longer in the Navy, I assume he's working with commercial figures at this point in his life. That's all just a huge ball of assumption though honestly.
     
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    Yeah ok that makes sense. However why come forward at all then if you don't want any attachment or association with the notion of aliens.
     
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    You make a good point here, but if this is the case I'm thinking of, The Video was released as an unclassified document because of Wikileaks, That whole Government Hack that Edward Snowden did. If this is that case, He was more or less exposed And never intended to come out.
     
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    You make a good point here, but if this is the case I'm thinking of, The Video was released as an unclassified document because of Wikileaks, That whole Government Hack that Edward Snowden did. If this is that case, He was more or less exposed And never intended to come out.
     
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    Sorry for my double posts, I don't know why my browser does that.
     
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    So
    All good. Yeah perhaps he is just trying to get ahead of things in regards to him being labeled knowing that eventually his name was going to end up being public in association to the Nimitz deal
     
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    I mean, I'm no fan of the cover-up, But The coverup is deeper than just Some military pressure pushing down from the high levels of office, It's like a social circle of pressure that exists within Job environments and workplaces all over.

    I like to approach things from many mental angles. It helps me get a fuller picture, Possible imaginary exercise. You are about to have life-saving surgery, You meet your doctor who is to perform nerve surgery on your Heart, You doctor tells you about how He was Abducted by aliens two weeks ago and it changed his life.

    Do you feel as assured that you have the right guy to perform this surgery? Sadly, The coverup is part of the human psychosis, We are all part of, all responsible for it. in many small ways.
     
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    But what I am saying is. If he didn't actually SEE the UFO/UAP with his own eyes balls as he has stated. Then his only reference point for the object would be radar or the thermal imaging that we see in the video, WHY or what made him say it looked similar to a 40 foot long TIC-TAC?.

    If you were to be the first person to see the video of the object which as Fravor has said over and over is the only video of it, would you say it resembled a TIC-TAC???

    He didn't see it with his own eyes.
     
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    Yeah, That's true, He only saw it through the I think The inferred camera, To be fair When people change their details to contradict it's a clear indicator he's lying though, You make a point.
     
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    Just think how many times since 2017 we've heard Tic-Tac, Tic-Tac, Tic-Tac

    Almost like it's being crowbarred into ufological terminology and nomenclature.

    This pilot was the person to coin the phrase Tic-Tac yet he didn't even actually see it.

    Tic-Tac... copyright 2017...TM.(trademark)
     
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    I love it!! You will do well here lol


    Yeah, You can usually associate that to Viral marketing, That's what Buzz words are on the Google ads market, Tracking devices, I promise you can source the Tic Tac Buzz all the way back to a singular source. Different paranormal groups will all have their different Buzzwords.. Side Note: We don't Market or Monetize here at AE. Everything here is from people that come together to make this community great. As For me, I'm the Local Weed smoker. I post a damned decent article every now and then. But Mostly, I just smoke a lot of weed, :p
     
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    Lol nice
     
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    Welcome to AE. :)
     
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    Thanks Toroid
     
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    Hello and Welcome to AE, glad you're here!...q37

    That is odd, perhaps in discussion with others and collaborating information he was the first one to think of that nick name lol...

    ...
     
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