Office of the US Secretary of Defense FOIA AAWSAP response

nivek

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Office of the US Secretary of Defense FOIA AAWSAP response
By Keith Basterfield

Background

On 30 April 2018, Australian researcher Paul Dean, published a blog titled "The Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application Program." Paul had received word from an individual, whom Paul referred to as "...someone who claimed to be in a senior defense program leadership role."

Whereas, we were all referring to the "secret Pentagon UFO study program" as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP,) this individual told Paul that the program's name was actually the Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application Program (AAWSAP.) This led to the uncovering of more information about AAWSAP; whose full correct name, turned out to be, the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program.

FOIA request

Having this inside knowledge, Paul immediately submitted a request under the US Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), to the Office of the Secretary of Defense/JS FOI Desk. He requested:

"...any electronic or hard copy records that include: mission statements, program overviews, program aims, fact sheets, program briefs for commanders or other senior leadership, program histories, contract information, and other general information regarding a program (either still running or was running in the last 12 years) within the Department of Defense. The name of that program is "Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application Program" (AAWSAP) or extremely similar. It was located possibly in the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), but I would like other DoD agencies checked. I saw a reference to this program in a register of DoD programs some years ago, so I do believe it exists or existed."


The DoD response

Almost two years later, the DoD responded in a letter dated April 14, 2020. The letter came from the Department of Defense FOI Division, 1155 Pentagon, Washington DC. It was a "final response" to Paul's FOI request. Part of the reply, stated:

"The Office of the Under Secretary for Aquisition and Sustainment (USD A&S,) a component of the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD,) reasonably believes their office does not have records in their files that are responsive to your request. Therefore a search was not conducted. You provided additional clarification of your request and a search of the Office of the Under Secretary for Intelligence (USD(I)) a component of OSD, conducted a search of their records systems based on the additional information you provided. After thorough searches of the electronic records and files of USD(I) no records of the kind you described could be identified. We believe that these search methods were appropriate and could reasonably be expected to provide the requested records if they existed." I image this letter below:

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Note: Paul's current residential address is no longer the one shown above.


Comment:

So, the very first known FOIA request concerning AAWSAP, to the Office of the Secretary of Defense/JS FOI Desk has essentially recorded a "no responsive records held" reply. I am aware of other such FOIA requests, such as my own to the OSD/JS FOI Desk, which are in the pipeline. Paul's response gives us little hope of a positive reply.

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nivek

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@Paul Dean is a member here as well, hope he's doing well during this virus crisis, I haven't spoken to him recently...

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Dejan Corovic

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If anybody feels like submitting another FOIA request, here is a good one.

According to this Roswell witness, who was a child back in 1947, and who was one of a dozen civilian witnesses who turned at a site of the crash before the military, there was a huge military operation on the nearest motorway. C-47 transport plane landed on the highway, the whole staging area was organized on the sides of the motorway, with medical facilities, trucks and manned by about 100-200 soldiers and officers.

Such a big operation must had left some paper trial, both in military and civilian records: highway was closed, trucks had to be filled with gas etc.

 
C-47 transport plane landed on the highway

At first blush this sounded implausible to me - a C-47 transport plane landing on the highway; I thought the width of the landing gear would be a tough fit on a presumably 2-lane highway. I was wrong.

The width of a C-47 transport plane (aka a Douglas DC-3 aircraft) is 94ft and 7 inches. Here's a schematic:

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Scaling the schematic, we find that the landing gear is spaced about 18.6 feet apart.

The width of a US interstate is 12ft per lane plus a minimum paved shoulder of 4ft per side. So two lanes in opposite directions plus a minimum shoulder of 4ft per direction is 24ft + 8ft = 32 feet. So a DC-3 landing on a two-lane US interstate highway would have 6.7 feet extra pavement on either side of the landing gear...with the added bonus of a double yellow line marking the center of the highway. Given the typically low wind speeds of the great plains, I have to conclude that it's a viable possibility.

The landing speed of a C-47 is 64 mph; the approximate speed of a car on the highway. At that speed it's easy to imagine staying on center with a margin of error of 6.7 feet per side.
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
At first blush this sounded implausible to me - a C-47 transport plane landing on the highway; I thought the width of the landing gear would be a tough fit on a presumably 2-lane highway. I was wrong.

The width of a C-47 transport plane (aka a Douglas DC-3 aircraft) is 94ft and 7 inches. Here's a schematic:

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Scaling the schematic, we find that the landing gear is spaced about 18.6 feet apart.

The width of an US interstate is 12ft per lane plus a minimum paved shoulder of 4ft per side. So two lanes in opposite directions plus a minimum shoulder of 4ft per direction is 24ft + 8ft = 32 feet. So a DC-3 landing on a two-lane US interstate highway would have 6.7 feet extra pavement on either side of the landing gear...with the added bonus of a double yellow line marking the center of the highway. Given the typically low wind speeds of the great plains, I have to conclude that it's a viable possibility.

The landing speed of a C-47 is 64 mph; the approximate speed of a car on the highway. At that speed it's easy to imagine staying on center with a margin of error of 6.7 feet per side.

That witness is on the money!

... And forever thanks to Stanton Friedman for capturing that on tape. Before recording took place witness was taken with Robert Bigalow's helicopter to show them the exact spot on the ranch where craft was residing.

For years various Roswell site witnesses mentioned presence of other witnesses. But it was always as a passing reference. This is the first time that the actual site witness mentions all other groups of witnesses and enumerates them. There were three groups, totaling about a dozen people. His father, uncle, brother, and himself. A group of archeologists who, the night before and from the other side of the valley, had seen the illuminated object falling onto the ground and came to investigate early in the morning and Brazel the farmer, with few of his farmhands. Quite a bunch.

It's important that to know that members of the archeologist group were identified and one lady actually gave a deathbed testimonial (I've watched the video on YouTube).

This witness has the sharpest recollection of the event and he said there were four aliens there. Two appeared dead, one was seriously wounded and one was alive and they tried to communicate with him. Needless to say, the fourth, live alien was scared to death when soldiers turned up.

In another video, in this Stanton Friedman's series, a witness said that farmer Brazel was locked up for 3 days. Obviously for no reason and without warrant. He was later seen in around the town driving a brand new truck.
 
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Dejan Corovic

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I would say that this is a piece of original footage by Air Force's official photographer Ray Santili who was actually tasked to film whole Roswell Incident



What makes me believe so, is that movement of both cameraman and people is so chaotic. If this was staged, everybody's body language would be much stiffer, because they would be following instructions, not behaving naturaly. For example, when you watch outtakes about shooting movies while shooting movies, you always see the whole crew and all the lights, microphones, cameramen etc. That whole setup restricts actors, makes them stiffer. They both have to think about not bumping into something and about what director wants them to do.
 
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