Caeldeth
Noble
This I agree with.
Patriots fans burn team jerseys after players take a knee during National Anthem
This I agree with.
nivek
As Above So Below
What a joke and what arrogance at the same time, this guy is pathetic, does he think he's ever going to play in the NFL now?...This guy needs a reality check...
Colin Kaepernick sues all 32 NFL owners for colluding NOT to hire him because of his national anthem protest and blasts Trump in statement for 'threatening patriotic Americans'
Colin Kaepernick sues all 32 NFL owners for colluding NOT to hire him because of his national anthem protest and blasts Trump in statement for 'threatening patriotic Americans'
CasualBystander
Celestial
Liberal East Coast Sports Reporter Leaves Lefty Bubble, Finds Real Americans DO Hate Anthem Protests
Schrager proudly spoke up and perhaps fatally over simplified his job, by saying that he worked in the NFL. But that was a major mistake because upon hearing that, the driver pulled over and told Schrager to get out of his cab.
The driver proceeded to tell the reporter that he did not appreciate the anti-American protests going on each week during the playing of the national anthem, and he didn’t feel the need to do business with anyone representing pro football.
“You can get out of the car,” Schrager said the driver told him. “The NFL is dead to me. The NFL, the fact that these guys take knees, I will never watch the NFL again,” the cabbie added according to the Fox reporter.
And that is what middle America thinks of the Anthem protests.
I don't believe Goodell is going to keep his job.
Schrager proudly spoke up and perhaps fatally over simplified his job, by saying that he worked in the NFL. But that was a major mistake because upon hearing that, the driver pulled over and told Schrager to get out of his cab.
The driver proceeded to tell the reporter that he did not appreciate the anti-American protests going on each week during the playing of the national anthem, and he didn’t feel the need to do business with anyone representing pro football.
“You can get out of the car,” Schrager said the driver told him. “The NFL is dead to me. The NFL, the fact that these guys take knees, I will never watch the NFL again,” the cabbie added according to the Fox reporter.
And that is what middle America thinks of the Anthem protests.
I don't believe Goodell is going to keep his job.
Sheltie
Fratty and out of touch.
dr wu
Noble
I think real Americans don't really give a crap about the singing of the anthem (Star Spangled Banner...), etc at sports events....most act sufficiently bored ,annoyed, or don't even know the words anyway and only want the game to begin.
I don't turn on the NFL to listen to the song nor do I care what the players do before, in the half time, or after the game.
It's a football game and we shouldn't even need songs at a 'private sporting event' where millions are being made by owners and players and really has little or nothing to do with American politics, patriotism, or government.
I don't turn on the NFL to listen to the song nor do I care what the players do before, in the half time, or after the game.
It's a football game and we shouldn't even need songs at a 'private sporting event' where millions are being made by owners and players and really has little or nothing to do with American politics, patriotism, or government.
nivek
As Above So Below
So who's a real American and who is not?...
I thought any American citizen was a real American...
dr wu
Noble
Well....maybe that's a question we should be asking all the patriotic Republicans and Trump since they seem to think they know what is what when it comes to 'right thinking'.
nivek
As Above So Below
Well....maybe that's a question we should be asking all the patriotic Republicans and Trump since they seem to think they know what is what when it comes to 'right thinking'.
You said it, no one else, what do you mean by that comment?...
Who do you consider a "real american"?...
dr wu
Noble
Sigh......did you not see the quotation marks around real American...?
It's called sarcasm .
nivek
As Above So Below
dr wu
Noble
My error....I had meant to place them there....the sarcasm was referring to those that are offended by the so-called protest at the football games....ie. they are 'real Americans'. Trump and those of a similar ilk seemed offended.
Which I think is utterly ridiculous for the reasons I mentioned above.
Apollo
Adept
I don't believe in forced patriotism. We are not North Korea. We do not require political minders to make certain we stand for patriotic songs, sing loudly, clap vigorously when our leaders speak, or cry appropriately when one dies.
While I don't necessarily agree with taking a knee during the anthem, I also do not see quietly taking a knee as disrespectful. If they were in some way trying to disrupt the anthem by being noisy or attempting to cause others to not be able to stand or hear the performer, I might feel different. But so far as I see they are exercising their First Amendment right in a manor that does not infringe on any one else's ability to enjoy the anthem as they see fit. Therefore it does not bother me.
As to the President's obsession with this fiasco, Trump should take his own advice in regard to a president's involvement in the NFL:
"President should not be telling the Washington Redskins to change their name-our country has far bigger problems! FOCUS on them,not nonsense" -Donald Trump (10/08/13)
Indeed we do, and he should.
While I don't necessarily agree with taking a knee during the anthem, I also do not see quietly taking a knee as disrespectful. If they were in some way trying to disrupt the anthem by being noisy or attempting to cause others to not be able to stand or hear the performer, I might feel different. But so far as I see they are exercising their First Amendment right in a manor that does not infringe on any one else's ability to enjoy the anthem as they see fit. Therefore it does not bother me.
As to the President's obsession with this fiasco, Trump should take his own advice in regard to a president's involvement in the NFL:
"President should not be telling the Washington Redskins to change their name-our country has far bigger problems! FOCUS on them,not nonsense" -Donald Trump (10/08/13)
Indeed we do, and he should.
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
He's not that smart......lol. Besides the patriots are the biggest cheaters out there anyway.....they should have their jerseys burned.
Sheltie
Fratty and out of touch.
I don't care what Donald Trump or any other politician says. My father served in the Merchant Marines in WWII and he served in the Army Corp of Engineers during the Korean War. It really bothers me when I see people posting things on Facebook comparing respect for the national anthem and the flag to the support of NAZIs or dictators. He was one of the people who fought against those people. I was brought up to believe the flag and the anthem are worthy of respect, regardless of your political feelings. I don't understand why so many people can't respect this.
Apollo
Adept
Quite frankly as of late the right has been giving liberals quite a run for their money regarding manufacturing outrage at everything. As an Independent I've had about enough of both sides. But that's a discussion for another thread.
Life is simple if we let it be. You do you, I'll do me. So long as neither of us is preventing the other from doing their thing, there's no problem.
I.e. you feel free to stand for the anthem, sing, shed a tear if you wish. But do not expect others to do the same as no law states they must. So long as they do not prevent you from honoring the anthem as you see fit, I can't see where the issue is.
And for the record I've never sat during the anthem. Not when I was an athlete in school, nor at any event as an adult. My family has quite the military history and has represented in every major conflict sinve ww 2. But I still don't care if people sit, kneel, whatever. So long as they don't get loud or attempt to stop others from enjoying the anthem, I'm fine with them exercising their RIGHT to do so. That's what rights are for.
CasualBystander
Celestial
Wife Of NFL Player Claims Raiders Let Derek Carr Get Hurt Over Anthem Protests
This isn't good.
Vin Scully on anthem protests: 'I will never watch another National Football League game'
Vic Scully basically reflects my view.
If the players are going to kneel for the Anthem I don't care what their protest is about, they can go f*** themselves.
This isn't good.
Vin Scully on anthem protests: 'I will never watch another National Football League game'
Vic Scully basically reflects my view.
If the players are going to kneel for the Anthem I don't care what their protest is about, they can go f*** themselves.
nivek
As Above So Below
Yep, for me it isn't a left or right issue it's an American issue and I hold the same point of view, they can go f*** themselves...I'm not one to watch sports very much anyway, definitely won't be watching football anytime soon nor the super bowl...
Apollo
Adept
You supposed patriots are an ironic bunch.
You are attempting to inflict financial punishment on an American business because of a small minority of players without care for the collateral damage to regular folk employed either directly by the NFL, the stadiums, the businesses that license NFL logos, etc. You're biting off your nose to spite your face.
Hurting or attempting to hurt American business and other Americans is ten times more unpatriotic than not standing for the anthem. And the president doing the same is shameful. His promise was to help American business and create jobs. Not destroy them.
He's a hypocrite, and so are you if you attempt to punish what you see as lack of patriotism and respect with an actual lack of patriotism and respect for your fellow citizens.
Shame on you all for not respecting the first amendment!
You are attempting to inflict financial punishment on an American business because of a small minority of players without care for the collateral damage to regular folk employed either directly by the NFL, the stadiums, the businesses that license NFL logos, etc. You're biting off your nose to spite your face.
Hurting or attempting to hurt American business and other Americans is ten times more unpatriotic than not standing for the anthem. And the president doing the same is shameful. His promise was to help American business and create jobs. Not destroy them.
He's a hypocrite, and so are you if you attempt to punish what you see as lack of patriotism and respect with an actual lack of patriotism and respect for your fellow citizens.
Shame on you all for not respecting the first amendment!
nivek
As Above So Below
This isn't about the 1st amendment, obviously...
These guys get paid to do their job and if their job requires them to stand they must, clearly their job isn't defined well enough for the money they make...If I refused to do something my employer expects of me I will be fired, as those players who kneel should also be fired...
These guys get paid to do their job and if their job requires them to stand they must, clearly their job isn't defined well enough for the money they make...If I refused to do something my employer expects of me I will be fired, as those players who kneel should also be fired...