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Discussion in 'Alien-UFOs in the Media' started by Zeke, Aug 7, 2018.

  1. Zeke

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    Now some of you may think Kerry Cassidy a total nutjob and dismiss all of her interviews entirely, but I say discern each one -case by case- I've come across very bad ones but also very good ones.

    Here's one I am listening to now about someone who makes a lot of claims related to ufology and specifically to the development of a warp drive. This guy - Paul Price - met Dr Brown (who was recruited by the military) after his anti-gravity related discoveries.

    There are too many things to mention all here - but the guy has a form of aspergers and sees the technology in his head. He then relayed the info to someone at NASA, who went bonkers and had military choppers following him, MIB on his ass, to the point of attempted blackmail. He allegedly had same idea for a warp drive pop in his head that they were working on in a black project or very similar to.

    Very extensive. Usually I listen to these long interviews while driving on the road, which I highly recommend as convenient way. There is now a second part uploaded. Anyone know about this guy or his idea for a warp drive? Arguments for being legit or a fraud?

     
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  2. humanoidlord

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    @Thomas R. Morrison
     
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  3. Thomas R. Morrison

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    Omg...I listened that damn interview for 1 hour and 52 minutes before she finally asked him to describe his antigravity device, and he just said that it's a cross between the effing "EM Drive" (which is BS) and Die Glock (the imaginary Nazi experiment), and he can't say anything more about it without giving away his "intellectual property." S of a B.

    It's amazing how many high-profile scientists and government agents have had an active role in the life of a professional dish washer. Sounds legit. Haha.
     
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  4. Shadowprophet

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    Yeah hasn't the em Drive basically been debunked now?
     
  5. Thomas R. Morrison

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    So, here's the deal. For the people who weren't convinced that the EM Drive is BS because, if it worked, it would violate the conservation of momentum, Martin Tajmar has published a paper about the experiments that he ran with one of these things, which indicates that it really is BS:

    There Might Be An Embarrassing Explanation For How The EmDrive Appeared To Break The Laws Of Physics

    There are a few things to bear in mind here. For one thing, the reported "anomalous thrust" has been about the magnitude of force generated by a grain of sand resting on your palm. And for another, all kinds of incidental experimental effects can produce a force that small; the distortion of your power cables as they warm up, Lenz law interactions with nearby conductors, vibration effects, and on and on. Tajmar seems to think that improperly shielded power cables are interacting with the Earth's magnetic field. Could be. Could be any number of other things too.

    But the "EM Drive" is just a weirdly shaped microwave oven. So it has a roughly zero percent chance of being a propulsion device. I wish it were that easy to find a way around the conservation of momentum.

    Maybe in another 15-20 years, the issue will finally be settled once and for all, and we can focus on field propulsion concepts that have a chance in hell of actually working.
     
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  6. Shadowprophet

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    yeah, That's what I had heard about it. It seems odd that the original theory ever got this far without evidence, But as I understand there were some faulty experiments with misreadings too.
     
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  7. Thomas R. Morrison

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    Well, that was part of the problem actually - there wasn't a sensible theory of operation to begin with; Shawyer had originally proposed some unphysical explanation about group velocity and photon momentum that sounded good to people who can't do math, and then later the Eagleworks team dreamed up some crazy explanation about imparting momentum to virtual particles (which would violate quantum field theory). And various teams who tried the thing kept reporting minute forces.

    So casual bystanders were faced with a difficult choice: either believe the stuffy academics who called it BS at the top of their lungs, or believe the noisy experiments that showed a tiny effect and cheer for a totally unexpected and illogical revolution in physics (after all, who doesn't want to see something like that happen?).

    I've made this point before and I'll make it again because it bears repeating: one of the main reasons why the public distrusts scientists today, is the outrageous level of ridicule and scorn that the scientific community has heaped upon UFO witnesses and the extraterrestrial hypothesis. The magnitude of that betrayal in the public mind is vastly underestimated. When your beloved grandmother, or your closest friend, looks you in the eye and tells you about their sighting - that, you trust. And your own eyes, for those who have seen these things for themselves. The public has known that these things are real, and probably extraterrestrial, for over half a century. But the mainstream science community and the corporate news media - spurred on by government disinformation operatives and the military intelligence agencies - laughed in their faces about it. So an enormous rift erupted between the public and academic scientists. And over time, it's only widened. Now people distrust damn near everything that the scientific community has to say, including anthropogenic global warming, and even the Moon landings in some cases. Payback's a bitch. And thanks to sociopathic low-lifes like Philip Klass who dedicated their entire lives to mocking innocent witnesses, the world is on the brink of a catastrophic calamity and we're powerless to stop it because nobody trusts scientists anymore.

    Which is why you should never conduct PsyOps against your own citizens: because when you need people to take you seriously in the face of a major immanent crisis, they won't believe you.

    All of the false positives regarding the EM Drive fall into that category, imo. It's a shame, because I've love to get to the stars with a microwave oven propulsion device. But it's going to take more brains than that.
     
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  8. Shadowprophet

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    I had an idea once that possibly a particle accelerator could be used to generate gravity,
    It is my understanding that a powerful particle accelerator will generate intense gravity because of the accelerated mass. Forgive me, I could have made a better diagram but I'm sleepy, The idea is a thick outer casing would prevent the gravity from pulling in every direction only allowing it to pull from this exposed area creating pull/thrust, The Casing could be rotated on an axis to controll the direction of pull.

    I don't know if this would work, But It's fun to think about these kinds of things. :)






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  9. Zeke

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    The Die Clock is argued by many ufologists and researchers to have been a real thing (i.e. Jim Marrs). We have a whole thread here started by @Gambeir dedicated to it's study. We find people tend to fall into categories of all exotic tech being man-made or ET-based, why not both?

    The guy in video says his dream for becoming an Astronaut was killed when it was determined he had some medical condition (Aspergers?). He then resorted to working in any capacity around NASA. It was a technicality, not related to his science knowledge or lack of.

    I'm only half-way done with this, so holding off on a real assessment. Thanks for your insightful input!
     
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  10. humanoidlord

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    thanks, i din't see the video but thats exactly what i expected of it, sorry for wasting your time
     
  11. Zeke

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    The first part was the background of the guy. The second part is dedicated entirely to the TECHNOLOGY.

    I listened to this last night and I would venture to say this is well worth listening to by anyone who just wanted discussion on warp drive type of technology.

    Ignore Cassidy's comments on exopolitics and aliens. I highly recommend this second video for you, @spacecase0 @Gambeir, and whoever is following the ARV thread.

    Yes he does have a propriety, doesn't reveal the "secret sauce" and *gasp* opened a gofundme. The reality - he's looking to experiment proper and lacking funds much like (youtuber) Alien Scientist, SpaceCase (here), and others who don't have billions/trillions in military black project money at disposal.

    The context is he falls in the high end of the autism spectrum, which we know has both specific scientific advantages and social disadvantages.

    I don't know the persons he refers to working to suppress the technology, he doesn't give names for legal/safety reasons but calls them by pseudonyms "Dr Who" "the Philosopher" and "the Canadian".

    While he doesn't divulge everything here, he does go into great length trying to explain it as much as he can without totally giving away the IP.

    I know if I worked on an invention or product I'd want it patented and protected to make a living. But Dr. Steven Greer would say that's a dead end approach when dealing with this type of technology, and only way is to work as open source.

    Starts at 15m in.
     
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