Protests & Unrest

Discussion in 'Present & Current Events' started by Toroid, May 31, 2020.

  1. Rick Hunter

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    There is no reason to travel outside your own community to participate in a shit storm going on in another community, regardless of which side you are on. People should be responsible for their own communities without outside help. I feel bad for Rittenhouse, the more I read about him the more I think his mind had been going off the rails for awhile. His obsession with the police strikes me as someone on the Autism spectrum. The people who really need to be locked up are his worthless parents. No kid of mine is going to travel across state lines with a gun to volunteer as a regulator/vigilante/whatever the hell he thought he was. I really hope the U.S. attorney is able to hit them with a firearms charge.

    Likewise, I don't feel sorry for the criminal morons he shot, they reaped the consequences of their choices. The amount of stupid involved here is mind boggling.
     
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  4. AD1184

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    It is unsurprising that Rittenhouse was cleared of the killings. The decision to prosecute him was dubious from the outset, as legal experts pointed out that a conviction was a long shot. It seems likely that the decision to prosecute was politically motivated, in an effort to temporarily placate the Black Lives Matter movement. But then they must also have anticipated that eventually it would reach this point, with Rittenhouse acquitted of those charged after a jury verdict.

    It seems that leftists wanted him convicted of murder because they didn't like that he had come from out of town and brought a weapon. And also because they are dissatisfied with the state of gun laws in the country as a whole. However, learned people know that this is not the basis on which legal verdicts are decided, but by a consideration of facts and circumstances of events as presented in court. Experts pointed out that any jury was unlikely to convict on consideration of the evidence, as video evidence of all three shootings showed Rittenhouse firing only in response to being attacked. I considered it likely that Rittenhouse would be convicted on the firearms charge, until his defence counsel pointed out in court that his carrying the rifle was not against the law under which he was charged (although the media puzzlingly referred to this as his being let off on a 'technicality').

    Rittenhouse is not a hero or a martyr, either. He should not have been there, and he especially should not have brought his gun. The same goes for the demonstrators he shot. There were plenty on both sides who flooded into the town looking for trouble, or looking to cause trouble.

    There is a worrying trend in the US for people to bring their guns to demonstrations, or counter demonstrations. This is an intimidation tactic. They claim to be standing up for their Second Amendment rights, but really they are testing the limits of those rights, and the greater public's acceptance of them. If they continue the behaviour, with the consequences it brings (people being shot), then they may find that the broader public does not have much tolerance any more for their Second Amendment rights, and they might then be severely curtailed.
     
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    The unsettling part, I think, are the root causes to which some people feel the need or want to bring a gun to a demonstration or protest...What has changed and became so extreme to warrant the need for an AR to be displayed at these events?...That's a question the media and the government should be asking, although both have been fanning the flames of unrest the last few years...

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    I would ask a reasonable question to the people protesting the outcome of this trial...How is it that Kyle is a racist killer?...So many of the protesters are holding signs stating that he is a racist killer or a white supremacist, so exactly how does he fit those implications?...

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  8. Rick Hunter

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    This, 100 percent. Violence in a public setting is the single largest threat to our gun rights, and I wish people would stop and think about this. If you have to bring a military style long gun to an event, you probably shouldn't be going to that event. At minimum it confirms all kinds of negative stereotypes about gun people, at worst it invites others to "test" you. Either way you lose.
     
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