Racism Question.

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  1. Shadowprophet

    Shadowprophet Truthiness

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    I don't know how to ask this, Because You guys know me, And Know That I'm not Racist, If anything, This is a point of Ignorance, And I need advice on if the issue is an issue and needs addressing. Because, If it is racist, Then I need to know so I can abolish this from my personality.

    I will just get right to this issue and ask the question because I don't know how else to do it, I've traveled a lot in my lifetime, I've seen a lot of different cultures. One Stereotype I've noticed that Seems, At least to me to be True, Is that People from India are Hyper-intelligent. I've met a lot of people from India, And, Yes, To me it seems that Their minds are functioning at not only a faster rate But are more expressive then average and More detailed in their speech.

    I don't mean it in a bad way. I don't mean it in a dissociative way. But, As a person who has met almost every culture of human, People from India seem to have, a higher concentration of highly intelligent people.

    Now, These are my thoughts, Are they Racist? Cause, I don't mean for them to be.
     
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  2. Kchoo

    Kchoo Lunar Goon III Pilot

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    I have worked with several people from India in the IT profession, and I love and respect the sense of accomplishment they carry when things go well. They are eager to please, happy to help, but not perfect.

    I have these Observations and what I have been learned from asking them about their culture.

    Their education is highly structured, disciplined, and collaborative. Their family life is multi generational family oriented, and often religious. Their families often select spouses for them, based on religions, bloodlines, etc.

    Their culture was highly divided into poor servants and those who live more comfortable lives.
    This creates a fear of failure so great that many of the educated will never admit to being wrong... there is always an explanation, and they will not want to be seen as making an error. They would rather be seen as doing exactly what they were asked to do. Sometimes they argue they did everything per spec, often not admitting that they could have done a better job, but instead, setting the scene so they do not own a mistake by explaining in great detail the circumstances of the unowned mistake.

    This is a waste of energy, and it is where their otherwise almost perfect educational culture will lose rationality at times.

    I think their fear of failing is so prominent, it can be counterproductive.

    They will try to mature into a less fearful and more professional approach, but that fear seems to be always present and so I try to avoid triggering that.

    Often a reiteration of focus is all they need, and they will get it. But the focus must never be on how they arrived at an erroroneous conclusion, but on how to proceed going forward.
     
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  3. goblin

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    One thing I'll say, when you consider your experiences with a race or nationality, is where are you meeting the people? What is the context? If you are journeying to India and there interacting with a broad swath of society, I imagine you'll form a variety of impressions. If you are in your home country and only dealing with certain immigrants or tourists, you'll have a different and I imagine smaller set of experiences, since you'll likely be dealing with wealthier, more educated people, who wanted to come to your nation, at least for a time.

    I am not sure if you are a U.S. citizen or not but, if you are, just think about all of the differences within our society. If Someone in China only based their idea of U.S. people on the people they met in China, they'd be missing out on a lot. Granted the U.S. is not a race but I am not sure the people of India really are considered a race unto themselves either.

    I am not trying to say anything negative about Indian people within India or without it, only that I believe it's tough for anyone to get a good overall feel for a large population. And I'll bet the more you know of a people the more you detect differences.
     
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  4. pigfarmer

    pigfarmer tall, thin, irritable

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    People are people. If you are meeting Indians somewhere other than in India I'd say you're speaking to those who had the inclination and ability to emigrate and try something different, so maybe your sample isn't representative.
     
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  5. Shadowprophet

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    To be fair outside of the U.S My Main Goto spots have always been Canada and Hawaii, Admittedly Most of the time, I have met people at airports or in Honolulu, SO yes, I've not been to actual India, And these people where travelers themselves, I suppose that is relevant information. :)

    I've been to Egypt, But I was a Child at that time and only once, And I've been London Maybe Twice. Other than that, Honestly that's Pretty much everywhere I've been. But yeah, I see what you mean, Those people were also traveling around so Maybe they weren't exactly typical representatives. Oh yeah, I went To Japan once with my last wife, I don't like Japan, It's not what people are sold to believe it is, Trust me, An American or Europen traveling there for a visit is fine, But It's all but impossible to be fully accepted in that culture. It's the way they think there. You will always be an outsider. It's not the most welcoming feeling. That's not me Bashing Japan, It's so bad for visitors there, I was up at 3 AM getting something from a vending machine when the person running the hotel literally, "Shooed Me back into my room, Telling me people can't wonder the hallways that late at night. TO mine and my wife's Dismay
    This was not even some sort of rule violation. They have very different social rules there from literal building to building :/

    No hateful words for Japan, I just Never ever want to have to go back :/
     
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