real or hoax?

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  1. The shadow

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  2. pigfarmer

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    That's been around a while. I've skulked around that battlefield a few times at night. You know whats out there? Other idiots skulking, looking for ghosts. Disrespectful, but entertaining.
     
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  3. The shadow

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    my problem is some of these vids are to good to be true they scream hoax!
     
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  4. Standingstones

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    I do know that there are many ghost tours being run in Gettysburg. Right now those type tours are on the back burner. My wife and I contemplated going on one of the tours but we haven’t gotten the ambition to try one yet. Maybe when and if the virus worries calm down.
     
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    Hi The Shadow , hope you and the family are well my friend. :Thumbsup:... Good thread, I love a good ghost thread but I have to confess to being firmly on the fence as to what I believe is really behind the phenomenon. ... for instance I love a good yarn that is being claimed with apparent earnestness , I also love to mull over the possibilities of the many decent 'ghost-photos' that I see all over the place, [ie the Freddy Jackson somehow rings true to my little-unprofessionally-trained-mind] .. and also have seen some quite inexplicable old film clips that could just be?... But then as you know, my biggest interest [for some reason?] is in the authentication of UFO/ET testimony-pictures-and-film-evidence. ..And as such my full and unconditional sympathies and best wishes are with the guys who's main quest and desire in life is to find 'the smoking gun evidence' in any of the many branches of paranormal/forteana that they have a passion for.
    ... Meaning best wishes and good luck with the sifting of actual gold from all of the unceasing pile of moneymaking and mischievous BS that abounds all of the different areas of study!
    ... And from a novices pov after watching your two videos, I would say that personally the first one seems to be the more 'authentic' in as much as it doesn't feel as staged . .. But then could just as easily have been intended that way, .. and the point that i'm hamfistedly trying to make is that on the video 'the experts' were all enthusiastically promoting the notion that because this film was shot on an old camcorder that there could be 'no special effects involved' ... well! ... I'd like to moot that would be a fairly silly statement for an 'expert' to make as being something of an old film fan myself, I know full well that 'special effects in film' have been around since the dawn of cinematic time! ... In fact from the very early period of experimental film making there are surviving clips which are littered with decent ghost and ghostly effects of various quality. ... And not to put too fine a point on it, i'm saying that all of this was achieved in the dark ages as compared to the century or so afterward when this offering was made. ... and so for me personally, though I do not rule out the possibility of the film actually portraying an authentic troop of ghost-soldiers going about their ghostly business ... the whole "can't be a specially arranged effect because of the low-tech-camera" doesn't fly at all mate. ... And then of course, there's the possibility that there were no 'effects' , 'ghosts' or anything at all supernatural about the film, and it could quite feasibly be a case of just a troop of fellow sightseers going about their own 'ghost-hunting-business' caught on film.
    ...Who knows? ... it's all great stuff, but as with the UFO thing , it's going to take a whole lot more than a bit of film-clip to be counted as presentable proof of anything. ... But keep em' coming matey... I love it!
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  6. pigfarmer

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    I made several trips there between 2006-2012. The battlefield itself is off limits to tours of any kind after dark so the ghost adventures go to Sach's bridge and a few houses in town. If you have a chance to take a one-on-one battlefield tour with one of the retired Park Service rangers it's worth it.
     
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  7. Standingstones

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    This weekend will be a crazy time as the battle took place July 1-3 1863. There are many places off the beaten track. One place is Culp’s Hill. There is a tower you can climb. Unfortunately, my wife and I had bad timing. The last time we went we arrived moments after a school bus full of kids pull up. That was too much craziness. Now the Park Service has certain places closed off such as the tower. It is always best to go midweek if possible when less people are there.
     
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    Culp’s Hill Tower. Gettysburg National Park.



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  9. pigfarmer

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    Culp's Hill was a nasty piece of work that gets overlooked. I did a little research on the 150th New York regiment, the only one Dutchess County (where I live) fielded in the war. Thought I had a relative in it but it turns out not. As I write this I have this print on the wall nearby.

    As hauntings go, you'd think anywhere on that battlefield would be prime pickings.

    “Timid Youths To Hardened Veterans” by James Shockley. On the morning of July 3, 1863, the 150th New York Volunteer Infantry saw its first combat, its first opponent being none other than the famed “Stonewall Brigade” of the Army of Northern Virginia. The fighting began from earliest light with members of the regiment claiming to have fired 150 rounds apiece. Their calm, business-like demeanor led one veteran to remark: “What magic could have occurred to turn these timid youths to hardened veterans?”.

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  10. pigfarmer

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    Well, here we go again. Cool looking

    My question as always is: why are they filming that stretch of road at night?
     
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    Hoax ...

    There is a whole sub-culture of people on YouTube who go around former US Civil War battlegrounds in the hope to see ghosts. OMG "I've seen a ghost at Gettysburg battleground!" Essentially they are chasing advertising revenue.
     
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    From what I understand, one area that has plenty of ghost activity is at what is called the Slaughter Pen on the Gettysburg battlefield. It is an area at the foot of Little Round Top. When you are positioned at the Devil’s Den rock outcrop you are looking out at Round Top. In between those two is the Slaughter Pen.

    Supposedly there was a small stream that flowed through that area at the time that was red from soldier’s blood. If there were any ghost activity on the battlefield, this would be the place.


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    Plum Run I think. Been a while. Not too far from the 'famously profane' Freeman McGilvery's gun line or the Trostle farm or where Dan Sickles got his leg shot off. Lots of ghost hunters out there on any given night. BTW - I've always said Freeman must've had some potty mouth if we're still talking about it ....

    If haunting were predicated on violence I'd vote for the cavalry action to the north with George Custer. Horses, hacking, stabbing, pistol range. Sounds much more personal than a random minie ball. Don't know if there's much snooping around there, I think it could be private.
     
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    Yes, I have read about a few stories where people saw ghosts crossing the Peach Orchard/Wheatfield area which is close to the Trostle Farm and near Sickles Ave.
     
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    This area seems to be very active
     
  16. The shadow

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    Alas... Hoax.. it's water on the windshield.
     
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