Reincarnation

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  1. pigfarmer

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    Man, ain't that the truth.
     
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  2. Rick Hunter

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    In my case at least, I see my life as a mix of things that just happen to me and things that I choose. Either one can be good or bad. Strangely, the things that I choose are often just an extension of things that happen to me. For example, I didn't choose to be heterosexual or to have a desire to get married. I could have been born gay or as a confirmed bachelor. But, I am what I am so I chose to chase women for the purpose of getting married. Because of the choice of getting married to this particular woman, I have had to move three times because of my wife's job, no choice about that even though I hate moving. I know this describes how most people's lives work, it just makes sense to me.
     
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  3. nivek

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    Mysterious Stories of 9/11 Reincarnations in Young Children

    September 11, 2001, is a date that will forever be burned in the minds of those who watched on television as the twin World Trade Center towers collapsed in flames and rubble after terrorists flew planes into them. “9/11” has become the shorthand for the day that causes people to ask, “Where were you on 9/11?” For a growing number of young children who were not born until years later, the answer is “In the building as they collapsed.” Is 9/11 becoming a mass reincarnation event in young children?

    Unilad recently shared the story of Riss White, who responded to a TikTok video request for reincarnation stories with details of what happened when her daughter, who was four at the time (2018), looked over her shoulder at some pre-9/11 photos of the North Tower and said, “Hey mom, I used to work there.” A strange thing to say, but White was shocked by the girl’s follow-up:

    “She said that one day she was working and the floor got really hot. So she stood on her desk because the floor was too hot. And she said that her and her friends were trying to get through the door but they couldn’t open the door so she jumped out of the window and flew like a bird.”

    White swears the girl had never seen the photos before or heard of 9/11 to her knowledge. While she gives no other details and Unilad has nothing on whether the girl has been examined by past lives experts or psychologists, a quick Internet search found that her daughter is not alone among young children who say things that make their parents wonder if they are reincarnations of people who died on 9/11.

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    “I don’t just want to be a firefighter, I have always been and already am a firefighter! I used to get up in the morning, go to work and in the evenings I would come home and take off my fire proximity suit.”

    The “Reincarnation After Death?” website has a number of similar stories, like the one of Rachel Nolan, whose 4-year-old son Thomas who had been talking about 9/11 for a year before sharing the strange revelation of being a firefighter in a “proximity suit” – how does a 4-year-old know what that is? He described a Ford Johnson R8 truck – the exact model of the truck used by the firefighters in Manhattan. She remarked that Thomas spoke of the event with confidence. Another 4-year-old looked at a pre-9/11 WTC photo, pointed to a window where he said he had worked and remarked, “Mom, I’m still buried there,” along with allegedly giving her other unverified details of the day.

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    Then there’s 3-year-old “Cade,” whose much publicized story contains details of claims to have lived and died on 9/11 as Robert E. Pattison – a real victim who worked on the 110th floor of one building. Further investigations found more contradictions than similarities between Cade’s descriptions and the real Robert Pattison – does that mean Cade made all of it up or that reincarnation does not create exact copies of traumatic memories of death?

    “If you have got one where the children have made numerous statements about another life that is quite some distance away, including proper names and everything else, and it all checks out, then unless you are going to say, ‘It’s all one heck of a coincidence,’ you can’t really just blame all of that on fantasy.”

    Unilad referenced a blog post by Jim Tucker, medical director of the Child and Family Psychiatric Clinic at the University of Virginia, who counsels the parents of children who say things that sound like they’ve lived other lives before this one.

    Are these cases of real reincarnation of 9/11 victims or parents trying to get their children 15 minutes of fame? Do you believe that the more cases that pop up, the less likely they can be tossed off as coincidences? Does that fact that the children are at ages (around 4) where detailed accounts such as these are highly unusual? If it[‘s not reincarnation, what is it?

    A psychological study of these children would certainly be helpful for both them, us and the families of the victims. Then again, if reincarnation really does exist, should the person who is the vessel have a choice in whether they have contact with their ‘former’ family and friends? What do you think?

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  4. nivek

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  6. August

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    They say it has happened 250 times to people around the world. A pretty low number considering.
     
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    Also they stated that most people do revert back to their normal language after a time. A medical expert was on the news last night talking about this .

    Foreign accent syndrome - Wikipedia
     
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  8. Spaceman spiff

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    If there was reincarnation, cycle of souls, maybe most of them get send to other worlds to be born there? If it's universal, it would be a bummer to spend all lives on a single planet.

    If I had a choice in afterlife, id choose another planet for sure.
     
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  11. JahaRa

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    I was told by a psychic that this is only my 3rd incarnation on this planet. I knew when I was young that things were crazy here, people lying all the time because they are afraid of what others will think of them, men pretending like they are better than women, etc.
     
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  12. Sheltie

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    There are a lot of people who believe that the evolution of our souls does include the transmigration to higher, more advanced planets. Earth, supposedly, is just a classroom for learning. It's not the real deal insofar as the idea of a perfect place for us to live.
     
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  13. pigfarmer

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    Interesting thread to ruminate on.

    A very close friend of mine is terminally ill and we have arranged a 'tell' only the two of us know about ala Houdini. He also had two very vivid lucid dreams regarding his family. I took that with a grain of salt just due to his personality - seemed more like attention seeking behavior to me, but who the hell knows. Not so familiar with that part of his family.

    If we get to the point where that 'tell' is confirmed you'd best believe I'll be mentioning it right here. Right after somebody hits me with the smelling salts and a stiff drink
     
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    I dunno about the 'tell' . To be honest I am a bit .... pardon me .... skeptical. His personality is just the type you would think would be right on this - very (very very) detail oriented and very 'stuck' on a number of Earthly matters. Thing is, when this is happening for real right in front of you speculation like this is freakin' weird. Right now he's so lost in the soup inside his head I don't know if he would even remember it. I think when we do pass on our concerns are very much elsewhere and not on small stuff like that. But, the 'tell' is there and we'll see.
     
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  15. nivek

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    Imagine everything occurring at the same time in one incredible moment, then each incarnation living at the same time, through a split awareness or a split consciousness, would experience each incarnation at the same time instead of focused merely on one incarnation at a time...The concerns of the consciousness or experiencer would be on each life simultaneously...

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  16. JahaRa

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    That sounds like Jane Roberts Oversoul 7
     
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  17. nivek

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    What if one of those lives being experienced simultaneously becomes self-aware, self-conscious, what happens next?...

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  18. spacecase0

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    I have thought about that before.
     
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  19. pigfarmer

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    there's a warning sticker on my proton pack that mentions that - something about crossing the streams.

    remember, the proton pack is not a toy :)
     
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  20. nivek

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    From certain perspectives, such a happening would seem to go against nature, go against the natural order of things, however given that nature and laws that govern our existence and this reality it seems inevitable for something like that to happen to someone at some point...

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