Reincarnation

[Sheltie]

I'm a strong believer in reincarnation.

There is a lot of debate over whether or not the Bible mentions reincarnation. Some claim it was kept out for political reasons by various entities such as the Council of Nicaea. I'm not a Biblical scholar so I won't open that can of worms.

One of the biggest problems with the theory of reincarnation is that the whole concept has been so abused and exploited over the years. There are a lot of charlatans who claim to see past lives and, much like hypnosis, the possible memories people see may be to susceptible to suggestion.

August at the old forum believed strongly in reincarnation. She had some issues in her current life that she blamed on karmic experiences in past lives. I have some memories that people tell me could possibly be from past lives but I would never want to put too much faith in them.

 

[nivek]

may the lights go out, as a welcome and 'well done', when we come to the end of our earthly wanderings. how then to get there. is belief enough? physical mental emotional super efforts enough? ten lives forward and only one lazy indecisive moment to render it all null and void. back to square one again. perhaps, perhaps not. in essence, 'time's up'.?

Times up indeed, how's does one go about checking the 'gas tank', seems to me if you're going to give it a go, I mean supernova instead of eyes closed and arms crossed, shake the foundations, a lifetime or as much as humanely possible to prepare...

So then you have this fellow heading out wide awake, does this brave soul find himself still in that cycle of reincarnation or reoccurance but wide awake fully conscious or does he find myself exactly where he wants to be?...

 

[Merle]

lower life form eh. hmmm. maybe wrongly so but methinks all creation has a spirit and consciousness. i know man deems itself as the highest life form and thus attributes all manner of wonders to itself alone. still, i can't but think the vast majority of mankind has as much consciousness or spirit as a squirrel, which, contrary to most mankind, in itself is true to itself. truly 'i am', without words but in deeds.

That's my thinking and belief too, all creation has a Spirit including the humble non complaining tomato happily producing it's future offspring... (and then along comes a bird or a human or some other animal and rips the tomato away from its vine, away from its life force and eats the tomato while it's still alive - in the meantime tomato screams (inaudible to humans), my babies, don't eat my babies, leave my babies alone)...

I don't understand why us humans have this need to create an imaginary pecking order and then place ourselves at the very top of our list... Try living without some of the so called 'lower' life forms... Earth without trees... and if there were none of these low life flies then life for humans would be quite unbearble especially more so for those who live in warmer climates...

.... and worse of all, try telling the resident feline at my place that it is a low life, that it has less right to life than I do as well as it's life has less value than mine just because it's a cat... I for one wouldn't dare go there...

fun stuff for sure. not sure but i think i'll reincarnate as a teabag

At least you'd be useful to someone if only for the one time or if you get lucky and are reusable, twice...

On the other hand, if all else fails, you could reincarnate as yourself...

 

[cosmic joke]

enjoying the reads/thoughts/musings.

 

[SOUL-DRIFTER]

That's my thinking and belief too, all creation has a Spirit including the humble non complaining tomato happily producing it's future offspring... (and then along comes a bird or a human or some other animal and rips the tomato away from its vine, away from its life force and eats the tomato while it's still alive - in the meantime tomato screams (inaudible to humans), my babies, don't eat my babies, leave my babies alone)...

I don't understand why us humans have this need to create an imaginary pecking order and then place ourselves at the very top of our list... Try living without some of the so called 'lower' life forms... Earth without trees... and if there were none of these low life flies then life for humans would be quite unbearble especially more so for those who live in warmer climates...

.... and worse of all, try telling the resident feline at my place that it is a low life, that it has less right to life than I do as well as it's life has less value than mine just because it's a cat... I for one wouldn't dare go there...


At least you'd be useful to someone if only for the one time or if you get lucky and are reusable, twice...

On the other hand, if all else fails, you could reincarnate as yourself...

Have we gone fruity?

 

[Rick Hunter]

No one escapes it.
Some stay in the spirit world for a great length of time before returning here or to some other world. Others come back in a short time.
The amount of lives it takes to learn needed lessons depends on the individual.
The spiritually and mentally, advanced move up the ladder with fewer lives needed to do so.
But regardless some will find sticking points and must work through them.


IMHO

SD, would you mind to elaborate on your beliefs on reincarnation? Do you get these beliefs from religion, personal experience, the accounts of others? Reincarnation is something I am open to, haven't studied it enough to make up my mind one way or the other just yet.

 

[Bluelight007]

I believe this is not my first life. I also feel that I have met some souls in my past: my friends and my husband. However I am almost sure this is my first life with these parents.

 

[Shadowprophet]

I have spoken my thoughts on the actual process of reincarnation. But I do have a few questions about it for anyone that's up to the task of answering them. Why is it? That whenever anyone speaks of a past life, It's always someone famous, Like a king or a celebrity or a hero. Now, I'm not dismissing any claims here. I just wonder, How come we never hear stories about people who were reincarnated who just weren't famous. You never hear that story about Oh, I was the guy who was town crier or court jester in a past life. You never see reincarnation stories about the guy who shoveled horse poo for a living. I bring this point up. Mostly to point out how Glamorous reincarnation tales are. But you would really tend to think, Those people would be reincarnated also wouldn't they?

 

[Bluelight007]

I don't know... I am very attracted to Asia so I believe I used to live and die there. I also think I lived a very short life in France, I saw those dreams being a little girl

 

[Shadowprophet]

I don't know... I am very attracted to Asia so I believe I used to live and die there. I also think I lived a very short life in France, I saw those dreams being a little girl

I have what I believe to be several memories When I was a child. I had a lot of dreams about kanji letters. I used to draw them. Some of them actually had meaning like, Moon river and sun. But I can't really say for certain that I had never saw those Kanji before, It's possible I saw them on Tv. I have another memory of being a soldier possibly roman or Greek. I was surrounded by people and then everything goes black.

 

[nivek]

The soul is consciousness.

What if the soul is but another 'vehicle' for consciousness, in a similar way yet different than the physical?...Consciousness using the physical body to interact in this world, and using the soul body to interact in other layers of existence?...

 

[Gambeir]

According to your beliefs in that you state that reincarnation is fact, then I would think that one good thing about this day and age is that at least you'll have plenty of choices on which body to occupy for your next reincarnation...

Supposedly, with the world population increasing at a rate like never seen before it seems as if there are possibly more vacant bodies ready to be born than there are souls out there looking to pick one for their next reincarnation...

Wonder what it must feel like to be a body which no soul wants to take over?

I only know it as a fact for myself.
Global population has increased significantly.
In death awareness ceases for all but a few.
The unaware are given lives without choosing.

To be aware is to be able to chose.
Numerical numbers of bodies have no correlation.
In life souls are created. Not the other way round.
Hence the reason that AI is a scheme to entrap souls.

 

[SOUL-DRIFTER]

SD, would you mind to elaborate on your beliefs on reincarnation? Do you get these beliefs from religion, personal experience, the accounts of others? Reincarnation is something I am open to, haven't studied it enough to make up my mind one way or the other just yet.

My present beliefs are the culmination of all I have read, heard and what experiences brought me like astral travel.

The book "Seth Speaks" goes into the afterlife and reincarnation.

I believe I have lived over 150 lives and all were on different planets. Came back to one once...supposedly.
A spiritual psychic told me that and frankly I do not know...but it does answer a lot of questions about me over the years.
For example from the age of about 8 up until say 16 or 17 I dealt with strong feelings that I was living in a very seriously backward world. That feeling gradually faded over time...but never totally went away.
I have had glimpses of what might be from past lives.
All are otherworldly scenes, and none I have been able to contribute to any TV programs.

 

[Gambeir]

I have what I believe to be several memories When I was a child. I had a lot of dreams about kanji letters. I used to draw them. Some of them actually had meaning like, Moon river and sun. But I can't really say for certain that I had never saw those Kanji before, It's possible I saw them on Tv. I have another memory of being a soldier possibly roman or Greek. I was surrounded by people and then everything goes black.

My experience is that what you're attracted towards has a correlation to past lives, and that your innate skills are correlated through those previous pathways. You cannot know why you have this life without defeating the purpose of being here, consequently you're prevented from full understanding in the hear and now.

If by way of pitty, or by way of the needs of Universe itself, your life is required, only then and only by those needs of Universe will you be given any definitive answers.

We exist in service to Universe which is a service to our own souls. We are all a part of the consciousness which is life. The soul is consciousness. They are one and the same. Consciousness is life for practical purposes.

 

[Gambeir]

My thoughts on reincarnation are this, The consciousness must be an electrical process. The brain functions off of 15 watts of bioelectricity. Well, The physical law of energy conservation says. Energy can not be created freely or destroyed completely, only transformed from one state of energy to another. An example of this is the Nuclear reaction with physical mass. As physical mass transforms into energy. This is how nuclear reactors produce so much power. They convert physical matter into energy. Anyway. My point is. IF our consciousness is, in fact, an energy. And it seems like it is. Then your consciousness can not be destroyed completely just because the physical body ceased to function. The consciousness must be converted to another form. Perhaps an afterlife. perhaps reincarnation. I don't know, I just make this stuff up as I go along honestly.

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I'm in line with the gist of your thinking SP. Though I'm no too sure about conservation of anything in an ever expanding Universe. What I would say in relation to this is that body is a creation of matter held together by nuclear forces, which are magnetic forces, and which come out of aother realm called the anether, which is a dielectric field that creates magnetism when it moves across time. Hence life comes as a time capsule requiring movement forwards in time, which brings with it the processes of destruction as the portholes to the dielectric field are slowly closed off one by one, and the nuclear binding forces breakdown and the body succumbs to the collapses of the portholes to the anether which sustain life.

In this way life is created out of nothing more than matter, and therefore the life which is created carries with it a consciousness that might be a part of the magnetic field which surrounds the moving dielectric field when it is allowed to move through time, for time is essential to the creation of the magnetic/nuclear binding force which holds all matter together in our reality. In death time stops and which is the return of consciousness to the other side where the anether exists.

 

[Sheltie]

As far as the tomatoes go, I believe all life has a spirit but only humans can have a true individual soul.

And, yes, I too have always wondered why people like Shirley MacLaine seem to describe exotic exciting lives instead of the boring workaday lives we all seem to lead. Maybe it's just fantasy or maybe, when you lived a lot of lives, you forget the boring ones and only remember the really exciting ones?

 

[SOUL-DRIFTER]

As far as the tomatoes go, I believe all life has a spirit but only humans can have a true individual soul.

And, yes, I too have always wondered why people like Shirley MacLaine seem to describe exotic exciting lives instead of the boring workaday lives we all seem to lead. Maybe it's just fantasy or maybe, when you lived a lot of lives, you forget the boring ones and only remember the really exciting ones?

I believe that only a pronounced experience will be strong enough to bleed through and become a flash memory in a future life(s).

 

[cosmic joke]

my dear sister is a vegan. full bore. when she visits with us we go out of our way to feed her the foodstuffs she 'only' eats. when we visit with her however she would rather die than put some ribs on the bbq. i've often asked her if she hears the screaming of a carrot when it gets yanked by the hair out of the ground. she is not impressed. she is a doctor, a behaviour psychologist in this life. mefigures past life she must have been an edible animal.

 

[iwant2believe2]

I think all living things have a soul, spirit or self (all interchangeable terms). Consciousness is a state of being of Self...like hungry is a state of being of the Body. Consciousness is understood as having both characteristic and quality. They are self-aware, sentient, sapient, instinct, intentionality, memory etc. IMO only the self-aware sentient Self survives death and the rest, which comprises the Personality...sapience, intentionality, etc...is impermanent and dissolves like a wave into the sea. But the Self, because of its characteristic of self-aware, must continuously swell up in a new wave, distinguishing itself from its substance, becoming Personality before dissolving again.

The Self I am will always be, the Person I was will never be again. Quite certain I have existed as many Personalities... I may even retain some memories of previous personalities. But even the person I am in the present will cease to be tomorrow since existence is a fluid state of being.

Just my opinion and perspective

 

[ImmortalLegend527]

The reincarnation has already occurred in one's life..the Deja Vu and the dreams coming true will most definitely let you know, life can't be read twice... unless the book has been opened and re read again...it's humanly impossible unless.


life is predestined, are destined for an upload of data and its nothing one can say or dwell on when it comes to the past because no matter what path you didn't take or could have taken...it wouldn't have made a difference because your upload had no other choice to make ..for you have always been on the path that you were programmed to take.



was copy written for the year 2124

was copy damn written and who the hell are you and what in emoji life are you talking about immortal clown?

Stop embarrassing your self on this site have some class.

He was basically trying to say with out breaking his little code of honor.You, humans, died along time ago and your fracking tight ass god had you all reincarnated to see what pure ass hole you were and so that you don't get made when he sends you my address on, I want to' judge the mortals day'

OHHH K, Umm, that was eh.. interesting

Wait, so you're saying that these mortals are the..walking dead.

Did some say walking dead.

OK enough, you guys come on here you troll my post you bring nothing constructive here you tease me and you just have no class, please leave.

Bravo immortal just ..bravo.You come on here and tell these people that there the walking freking dead and we are the ones trolling huh..wow!.

and we have no class don't forget that. I wonder was this moment pre destined into the upload immortal or is this a dream come true, you can't be serious.

I had a Deja Vu about this site, how could I have a dream or vision about this site 4 years ago..tell me?How can some one, see one's future, with out it being there in the first place?

Your god, gave you mortals life again, so that once you find out that you have been here before and despite on you knowing this,you still do the same dumb stuff you did before you died..so maybe,just maybe, you will find away to change your life and go through the rusty gates of tightassville.

We go by rules, were not allowed to be that direct, you evil idiot dumb you stupid k

Do i look like i give a about some rules.

The moral of this is, change your ways.Your god has given you the ultimate gift of life and reliving your life once again, to see what went wrong and how you can change for the better, yes your the walking dead but at least you don't have a craving for brains.