Roswell, can we finally let it go?

Creepy Green Light

Don't mistake lack of talent for genius

Do we know if anyone has ever verified that this person was even in the USAAF in the first place? And if he was, what was his job & places of duty? Honorably discharged? I always wonder because people have made a career of (all the way to today) of making phony military claims. Once I finally took a deep dive into subject I realized what a massive problem it was & still is - even in the modern era with the internet. Even stories on ABC, NBC, FOX etc. have heralded individuals as war hero's etc. and only after it's aired, someone sees it and does the background check & then it's discovered not only (for example) was that person never a U.S. Navy SEAL - but was never in the Navy or any branch of the service. They have doctored "diplomas", class numbers, places of duty, action that they saw, have the uniforms etc. etc. which are all phony. It's enough of an epidemic that congress had to create the Stolen Valor Act which makes it federal crime to pretend that you were/currently are in the military to receive money, goods or services.

But there are way more phonies then people can verify & tons of them get away with it. The perp often knows just enough lingo & information to scam/BS someone who never served as well as businesses, schools, media companies, police depts etc. One guy was the head honcho of a VFW or American Legion (and was there for years) who never served a day in his life. He BS'd good enough to trick the actual veterans - so nobody is immune to getting fooled.

I apologize for the rant & being off topic kinda but it really tap dances all over my nerves when I see this con artists taking advantage of someone else and the fact that it's an epidemic in 2024 with all the tools at our disposal & electronic files - I can only imagine how much easier it was for the fakes in phonies 50, 60, 70 years ago.

I'm not accusing this guy of being a phony as he could be 100% valid - was just curious if at any point during the entire Roswell "discovery period" if anybody verified this mans service.

BTW - if anyone is interested in learning more on how these d-bags scam people, spouses, children, relatives, businesses, schools, news stations & more - Don Shipley (retired U.S. Navy Master Chief SEAL) is a great place to start. He is well known in the community and people who are sus about one of their co-workers, friends military stories will reach out to Don & then Don takes care of the rest - typically on the phone with the phony. Don's specialty is dealing with fake Navy SEALS/imposters;
View: https://youtu.be/MP_AFSYQ8zs?si=ppiY43sjzBieRreF
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
A relative by marriage claimed to have had all kinds of adventures in Vietnam and was head of the local VFW for awhile. The organization as a whole wanted to make him some kind of officer but it required a pro forma review of his military record. He promptly vanished on them and never had anything else to do with VFW again. Turns out he never was in Vietnam, and had received a dishonorable discharge after a stint at Leavenworth!
 

Creepy Green Light

Don't mistake lack of talent for genius
A relative by marriage claimed to have had all kinds of adventures in Vietnam and was head of the local VFW for awhile. The organization as a whole wanted to make him some kind of officer but it required a pro forma review of his military record. He promptly vanished on them and never had anything else to do with VFW again. Turns out he never was in Vietnam, and had received a dishonorable discharge after a stint at Leavenworth!
After all the people I've seen busted I feel like I can't trust anybody. Whether it's the guy sitting at a chair & folding table wearing his cammies with a money jar to "support veterans" in front of Target or guys just walking around with their "Vietnam Veteran" shirts/hats on. And I especially hate when they use it to obtain employment. It's funny because typically the Navy phonies never say (and this is no disrespect to these types of my jobs) that they were a cook, or postal clerk, or secretary, or engine mechanic.....it's always straight to Navy SEAL with awards like the Medal of Honor, combat ribbons/awards, been shot at, been a POW etc.

Stolen valor fake getting military discounts at the mall;

View: https://youtu.be/sOj07ClhEi8?si=sXDYY1uThC1B6AYM
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
I have serious respect for folks who have been in the military, but it shouldn't be a license for a lifetime of free shit. Both of my grandfathers nearly died in WWII and they never asked for a damn thing, even though they probably deserved it given what they went through. I know one guy who has been milking the "PTSD" thing for all it's worth. Guy absolutely refuses to get a job but somehow manages to be a volunteer firefighter and do cash work on cars. His wife is a wonderful woman but also a total doormat who enables him. Another guy is also trying to ride the PTSD gravy train even though he was never in combat and spent his whole enlistment on a supply ship. One dirtbag I worked with joined the guard to get his college paid for, but when it was time to go to Iraq he suddenly developed a bad back - while still pulling engines out of cars. I feel bad about the fact that I never served in the military, but using the fact that you did serve as an excuse to sponge off everybody else is far worse.

The one bona fide Navy Seal I have met was very private about his service in Vietnam. Didn't have any military stuff on display and never asked for discounts or anything like that. I imagine he saw some pretty horrific shit and may have even regretted becoming a Seal in the first place.
 
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Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Two drawings he produced, the underside was hexagonal tiles which glowed when active. Any idea as to their operation?
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Wow! Where did you get those images?

I only know of one other UFO case where a completely spherical UFO was covered with hexagonal tiles.

I would say that, taking in a consideration that vehicle was very aerodynamic and probably a glider, these tiles were just thermal insulation tiles like on Space Shuttle. Probably vehicle just descended through the atmosphere and when witnesses arrived tiles were still glowing from accumulated heat. It took Space Shuttle many hours to cool off.

Now, immediately I'll contradict to myself, because part of the fuselage where there is the most of heating up are leading edges. So, there should be some really strong thermal tiling on leading edges, like indeed Space Shuttle did have. But drawing doesn't show any, which is a bit out of a place.
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
There was alot of flying wing aircraft research being done at the time. ETH notwithstanding, what if the Roswell craft was an advanced Nazi aircraft we were testing which had crashed? Obviously, it doesn't make sense that they would be testing it in a storm, but just thinking out loud here. It would make perfect sense that the AAF would not want that leaking out, and would hurriedly concoct a flying disc explanation and then change it to weather balloon. After all the Germans did come up with a jet fighter and supersonic missile way before anybody else did, and we were giddy about getting our hands on those.
 
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