Scientist says "There is No Afterlife".

August

Metanoia
Maybe we all get turned into Orbs there are enough of them floating around to account for all past humans and animals. Maybe they are storage containers for souls until they reincarnate ?
 

dr wu

Noble
I feel like Agnosticism is an effortless out, for someone who doesn't or can't make up their minds. But hey that's just one man's opinion. I'm just saying, On any topic. the guy who doesn't have an opinion is a lot like an agnostic. How often has the person without an opinion been fruitful for conversation?

But I digress. I just have strong feelings about the Agnostic ideology, It's literally taking an intellectual stand to not have an opinion about something. Seems kind of lazy to me. But. Again. Just one man's opinion.
It's not a matter of laziness but a matter of knowing or not knowing. It's the lazy position to pick a side simply for the sake of picking a side...especially when there is not enough information to make choosing logical.
Agnosticism literally means means not knowing....there is nothing about laziness inherent in the position. Unless one knows for certain there is or is not an afterlife or God.....simply choosing one side is actually the lazy move.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
It's not a matter of laziness but a matter of knowing or not knowing. It's the lazy position to pick a side simply for the sake of picking a side...especially when there is not enough information to make choosing logical.
Agnosticism literally means means not knowing....there is nothing about laziness inherent in the position. Unless one knows for certain there is or is not an afterlife or God.....simply choosing one side is actually the lazy move.
Chin up, It's just one man's opinion about choosing to not make a choice. Yet, By your logic, it's actually the lazier thing to study and form an opinion on a subject. I somewhat can't agree with that. I think It's no secret that we all do our studies on the subjects we profess. How can it be objectively lazy to study a subject and then form an opinion? Right or wrong does not apply when opinions start hashing about. However. If someone Puts effort into study. And then cannot form an opinion, Then that's simply a choice. I feel like at this point. Most of us here are pretty studied. SO MAYBE lazy was a wrong choice of wording. However. I contrast this by saying. It's important to make choices, It's sometimes important to choose sides. When someone does not lean to the left or the right. They are invisible, Consider politics for a moment.

Libertarian anyone? And how far have the libertarians made it in the game of politics? That's because when you remain neutral and don't pick a side. then you aren't really showing support for anyone.

It's better analytically, a proven fact to have an opinion and simply be wrong than to remain neutral.

But that's just me.
 

Dundee

Fading day by day.
I feel like Agnosticism is an effortless out, for someone who doesn't or can't make up their minds. But hey that's just one man's opinion. I'm just saying, On any topic. the guy who doesn't have an opinion is a lot like an agnostic. How often has the person without an opinion been fruitful for conversation?

But I digress. I just have strong feelings about the Agnostic ideology, It's literally taking an intellectual stand to not have an opinion about something. Seems kind of lazy to me. But. Again. Just one man's opinion.
I agree completely, (No having a go Dr Wu) I will always pick a side, no matter what. Nothing productive comes from sitting on the fence in my opinion. I would rather take a side and be crucified and be wrong than sit on the fence. (Of course I would rather be right :) )
 

Dundee

Fading day by day.
Hmm Dr Wu you said...
Agnosticism literally means means not knowing....there is nothing about laziness inherent in the position. Unless one knows for certain there is or is not an afterlife or God.....simply choosing one side is actually the lazy move.
This says that they believe nothing is known... That is an opinion. I think your simplifying the implications of being an agnostic.
Some people say they have felt the presence of God.
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Dundee

Fading day by day.
OK so here is a personal experience for you. When my Mum passed away we were by her side as she went. In the moments after she died, in line with my personal belief, I looked to the ceiling in her hospital room. Expecting to see nothing at all. But I looked up and mouthed the words goodbye Mum, I love you. And, I swear on my parents grave there was a very very faint rainbow or rainbow like something coming from my Mum's bed to the roof.
Now, this is in no way part of my priors beliefs, or readings. I have never heard of it, so my mind was not expecting it. I expected to see nothing. But on the chance my beliefs are right and Mum's spirit left her body, I looked up only in the hope that she might see me looking.
This was 3:00 am inside an elderly persons area of a good hospital. It was warm and dry as most good hospitals are. But. I am telling you I saw for a few seconds a rainbow like...something extending from Mum's bed to the roof.
Then it faded. I swear on all I hold dear this is the truth.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
OK so here is a personal experience for you. When my Mum passed away we were by her side as she went. In the moments after she died, in line with my personal belief, I looked to the ceiling in her hospital room. Expecting to see nothing at all. But I looked up and mouthed the words goodbye Mum, I love you. And, I swear on my parents grave there was a very very faint rainbow or rainbow like something coming from my Mum's bed to the roof.
Now, this is in no way part of my priors beliefs, or readings. I have never heard of it, so my mind was not expecting it. I expected to see nothing. But on the chance my beliefs are right and Mum's spirit left her body, I looked up only in the hope that she might see me looking.
This was 3:00 am inside an elderly persons area of a good hospital. It was warm and dry as most good hospitals are. But. I am telling you I saw for a few seconds a rainbow like...something extending from Mum's bed to the roof.
Then it faded. I swear on all I hold dear this is the truth.
I don't know why it's this way brother Dundee, But for some reason, Phenomenon surrounding someone's passing is very very common. To the point that sometimes. People will suddenly think of someone they haven't thought about in years. Shortly before that person passes. It's safe to say, people are connected in ways. That we may honestly never fully understand. I would site that when you love someone, you share a portion of your emotion with that person. A bond. No one. No scientist on earth can deny the Bonds of love and affection. So. what happens to that love you share with that person that passes away?

Phenomenon surrounding Death is something that just happens sometimes. And no one can really explain it fully.
 

Dundee

Fading day by day.
We will. But will we remember it in nextlife ?
I have a feeling this has happened before.
Wu is gonna love this, but from my earliest memory of being, I feel like I have forgotten something incredibly important. I have an awareness of it in my subconsciousness, I know what it feels like, sometimes...it feels nearer, sorry that makes no sense.
But all I know for sure is as the smallest child I know I knew something really really important. Now I have forgotten it. My personal thoughts on this are that what I can't remember is life after death...or before birth. But it was so normal for me to know as a child, I did not realize its significance until I have forgotten it.
Shit this all sounds loopy :)
OK Wu, come spear me with your Holy Bunsen Burner :)
 

dr wu

Noble
Listen up....Neil will tell you how it is.....take notes if you need to.
I think our buddy John the prophet could use a dose of Rush.... ;)

 

CasualBystander

Celestial
And he says he can prove it.

Scientist says there is no afterlife, and that he can prove it

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This guy is an idiot.

When I get time I'll explain.
 

3FEL9

Islander
Wu is gonna love this, but from my earliest memory of being, I feel like I have forgotten something incredibly important. I have an awareness of it in my subconsciousness, I know what it feels like, sometimes...it feels nearer, sorry that makes no sense.
But all I know for sure is as the smallest child I know I knew something really really important. Now I have forgotten it. My personal thoughts on this are that what I can't remember is life after death...or before birth. But it was so normal for me to know as a child, I did not realize its significance until I have forgotten it.
Shit this all sounds loopy :)
OK Wu, come spear me with your Holy Bunsen Burner :)

Thats interesting,, you could have lingering remananent fragments of previous life experiences in your subconscious mind..
Dunno if we are restricted to human life on this blue planet, or as other lifeforms way out in the universe.
I dont feel 100 % human. Dont know if thats good or bad,, ae1;
 

August

Metanoia
They say sometimes when you re incarnate the memory wipe is not complete and you bring past life memories with you into this life , even if they are vagariously minor. These lingering memories can be either an advantage or a disadvantage depending on what they are. To some its a nagging thought that you have been here before.
 

3FEL9

Islander
They say sometimes when you re incarnate the memory wipe is not complete and you bring past life memories with you into this life , even if they are vagariously minor. These lingering memories can be either an advantage or a disadvantage depending on what they are.

Sloppy maintenance by the creator ? Lol I could use a memory wipe, here and now...
How good it would be to forget stuff. Every new day would be amazing again !
 

August

Metanoia
Sloppy maintenace by the creator ? Lol

Yeah kinda, like they goofed it up. I mean with all those souls transitioning there would have to be a stuff up somewhere. It makes me feel that the creator is more human than we think.
 
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