scientists confirm 2013-2017 as hottest period in recorded history

CasualBystander

Celestial
Here is the graph.

How much did GISS "adjust" the data since 2008???

Here is the graph:

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Caeldeth

Noble
Yet 2016 was a quiet year for hurricanes...

Warmer ocean doesn't mean more storms. It just means stronger storms where they develop in those warmer waters. There is an enormous amount of factors that go into the creation of a strong hurricane, not just a warmer climate and ocean, but a warmer climate and ocean are a huge factor.
 

Gambeir

Celestial
Yea, well...more than 90% of earth history is ice age. As can be seen here there are wild and growing wilder swings in temperatures. We are fortunate that we still have an upward spike, which is projected to continue for several more years.
Possibly until the late 30's.
Geologic temperature record - Wikipedia
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When the reverse drop does happen it's thought to happen with in days or perhaps hours resulting in mass death.
Global warming is a natural state just like global freezing is going to become a natural state.

Now this is much more complex than the screaming tax you for living crowd would have you know.
Global Warming isn't a man made condition. It's a geologic condition.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Can you not see the warming trend or are you just blind? I shouldn't have to spell out this graph for you my friend.

There was a short term warming trend, nothing to do with mankind's activites, this warming trend however is turning into a short term cooling trend as it does naturally...

I think it's arrogant of man to think we can honestly affect or control climate so vastly...
 

Caeldeth

Noble
There was a short term warming trend, nothing to do with mankind's activites, this warming trend however is turning into a short term cooling trend as it does naturally...

I think it's arrogant of man to think we can honestly affect or control climate so vastly...

That graph does not show a cooling trend. It shows a warming trend. We looking at the same graph here?
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
"Free energy" is stupid and isn t free. More on that later.

You can be the devil's advocate all you want. I don't work for him and can only learn his position from listening to his acolytes, such as yourself.

Well, yeah, its the evil oil barons funding opposing voices, etc. etc.

Great emotional arguments.

The earth is getting a little warmer. Simple fact.

Happens all the time, temperature changes constantly with the seasons around a slightly variable star.

The warmunists have waged a 40 year campaign to convince us that normal isn't normal.

And that "isn't normal" is bad.

The warmunists are losing the argument because they are all bark and no bite.

You can't prove that more that 1/4 of the warming is due to CO2.

You can't prove warming is bad.

You can't prove the warming will continue.

Some evidence would be nice. Not "models".

Everybody on the warmunist side seems to have an irrational fear of fossil fuel. This mostly is due to warmunists being irrational than any problem with fossil fuel.

I love the smell of a coal burning house in the morning.

Burn baby burn.
what's warmunist even suposed to mean ?
by free energy i mean so called "impossible" infinite power devices
isnt it weird that a lot of people associated with them have died in odd ways?
there are thousands of graphics in the web that shown an unusual temperature increases in the last century?
and yes warming is bad, wildfires will get more common and bigger, cold climate plants and animals will die, entire ecosistems will be fucked
and worst of all in the very far future there will be so much co2 in the atmosphere that it will stop being breathable, fast forward millions years and you will have an clone of venus
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
Not even remotely so, hurricanes and earthquakes are natural and not caused by man or mankind's activities, we may die of our own doing but the earth will live on...

We are not causing climate change, it's a natural occurrence...I've never doubted climate change but seriously doubt mankind's activities are causing it, there is little evidence to support that...The Paris debacle will shackle the world, it's an abomination...
the damage is already done, this is one of the reasons beside money they cover it up, we are doomed and so is all lifeforms beside bacteria
what is so bad about the paris debacle? is it any worse than people getting assasinated because they know the solution?
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
Climate change is simply planetary action . The rest just fills the pockets of climatologists and Al Gores bank accounts.
al gore is too dramatic to me. while some of his ideas are right, its mostly false disinformation
but this still dont means climate change isnt caused by humans, he is just another obnoxious politician just like everyone else of his kind
 

Caeldeth

Noble
You don't understand.

That is how much GISS changed the historic data.

You have to subtract this graph from your graph to get real temperatures.

Yes of course. It's all just smoke and mirrors, right? Doesn't fit with your thinking so again, it must be doctored or fake. Right? :dry8:
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
Yes of course. It's all just smoke and mirrors, right? Doesn't fit with your thinking so again, it must be doctored or fake. Right? :dry8:
Yes.

It doesn't agree with my thinking and it is doctored and fake - a double score.

It was all done during the Soetoro administration:
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Now the April 2010 date is interesting. That is when NASA's stimulus funded supercomputer upgrades came online.

NASA was bribed to lie about the temperature.
 

August

Metanoia
Yes.

It doesn't agree with my thinking and it is doctored and fake - a double score.

It was all done during the Soetoro administration:
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Now the April 2010 date is interesting. That is when NASA's stimulus funded supercomputer upgrades came online.

NASA was bribed to lie about the temperature.


Who bribed Nasa ??
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
There was a short term warming trend, nothing to do with mankind's activites, this warming trend however is turning into a short term cooling trend as it does naturally...

I think it's arrogant of man to think we can honestly affect or control climate so vastly...

I agree about the arrogance part......it also goes to think we're in control of nature.

The short term warming trend of the last 10,000 or so years has shown no signs of changing......but based on previous records its close to returning to a glacial period. Its just going to take a couple hundred years to know if this inter-glacial period has indeed ended. A super volcanic eruption would likely hurry the next ice age along.
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
Who bribed Nasa ??

"Barack Obama" (Barry Soetoro). There were billions for supercomputer upgrades and modeling money for NASA in the stimulus package. Plus they got the lion's share of the global warming science budget.

$1.5 Billion of the $2.2 Billion global warming science budget went to NASA.

If I paid you $1.5 billion a year would you lie about the temperature?
 
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Caeldeth

Noble
"Barack Obama" (Barry Soetoro). There were billions for supercomputer upgrades and modeling money for NASA in the stimulus package. Plus they got the lion's share of the global warming science budget.

$1.5 Billion of the $2.2 Billion global warming science budget went to NASA.

If I paid you $1.5 billion a year would you lie about the temperature?

Stop spreading disinformation to spread your agenda. Ocean temps used to be measured by boats and buois. They figured out that boats don't give good accurate measurements because boats give off heat. Graph data was adjusted to only use buois. Guess what? Still shows a warming trend.
 

Caeldeth

Noble
Well, gee. Discussion with you might be pointless.


NASA GISS 2000

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NASA GISS 2018
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The graphs are similar but different as described by the change graph.

But oh gee still shows a warming trend! Do you need a lesson in how to read these graphs?! Climate change is real buddy, live it, love it. No matter how much disinformation you try to spread guess what! IT'S STILL HAPPENING.
 
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