Secret facts about the Marvel Cinematic Universe

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  1. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

    A few bits to chew on for those who have followed the Marvel movies, one of these that surprised me was The Incredible Hulk movie, Iron Man 2 and Thor all took place in the same week!...

    Secret facts about the Marvel Cinematic Universe even superfans may not know

    Anthony Hopkins improvised Thor’s banishment

    You know you’ve nailed it when you’ve landed a great actor like Sir Anthony Hopkins to play a part in your movie. He was cast to play Odin, father of Thor, in the 2011 movie of the titular character.
    Kenneth Branagh, who directed Thor, allowed Hopkins to improvise some of his lines (why wouldn’t he, really?), and he certainly delivered. Apparently, during the scene where Odin banishes Thor to Earth (or Midgard), Hopkins gave an incredible improvised performance, rendering his co-stars speechless – especially when he snarled at Tom Hiddleston.

    Wakandan is a real language

    For those of you who were wondering, the language they speak in Black Panther’s Wakanda is actually a real-life language. Though not spoken widely, the language of Xhosa is an official language in South Africa, and it was used instead of making up a whole dialect for the film (like what was done for Avatar). Chadwick Boseman, who plays Wakandian king T’Challa, adopted a ‘Wakandian’ accent to sound both rich and intimidating for his role as the Black Panther.

    Groot edition scripts

    Despite what many people might think, it’s not easy having to repeat the same line over and over for an entire movie, while still making it sound believable. So to play Groot on Guardians of the Galaxy, Vin Diesel actually receives a special ‘Groot-Edition’ script, in which his lines are translated to English. This allows him to convey true meaning in the words “I am Groot,” and give it more depth. This version is highly secretive – only Vin Diesel and director James Gunn know what it says.

    That famous Thor: Ragnarok line

    Thor: Ragnarok was pretty hilarious, but one line especially stuck with MCU fans. We’re talking about that line Thor says when he reunites with the Hulk and is forced to fight him one-on-one in the Grandmaster’s stadium – “I know him! He’s a friend from work!” and the truth behind that line’s origin is pretty amazing. A boy who got to visit the set thanks to the Make-a-Wish Foundation, had the idea that Thor jokes about the Hulk being a “friend from work” and everyone thought it was hilarious.

    Groot actually has a condition

    Who doesn’t love Groot? The lovable tree became a true fan-favorite when Guardians of the Galaxy first came out. His famous line, “I am Groot” often provides a comic relief for the film, but not many fans know its origin. According to the origin story, Groot was once able to speak in full sentences. But apparently, the entirety of his species – including him – suffer from a disorder which makes their vocal chords harden until they can only utter “I am Groot.” That adorable one-liner will never ring the same now!

    The meaning of JARVIS

    Jarvis is the trusted AI assistant to Iron Man, who definitely had some funny moments. Voiced by the incredibly talented British actor Paul Bettany, Jarvis later became a real Avenger, the Vision. He became a human-looking android with an Infinity Stone (the Mind Stone) jammed in his forehead, in Avengers: Age of Ultron. While many fans know who, or what, Jarvis is, little know what the acronym J.A.R.V.I.S. actually stands for – “Just a Rather Very Intelligent System.” But Jarvis was also the name of Howard Stark’s driver and butler who passed away – so naming the system after him is also Tony’s way of honoring him.

    One devastating week

    Iron Man, which came out in 2008, marked the very beginning of the MCU, as it all started with the attacks that happened in the film. It was so hugely successful, Marvel decided to follow up with another Iron Man movie, as well as two standalone movies. You may not have known this, but the events of The Incredible Hulk (2008), Iron Man 2 (2010), and Thor (2011) actually take place in the same week. That’s one hell of a week for S.H.I.E.L.D., and it provided a comic introduction to the Avengers called Fury’s Big Week.

    A strange case of severed hands

    Some Marvel fans may have noticed a certain trend that kept happening in Phase Two of the MCU. In every single film, a character would lose their hand. Whether it was Loki fake-severing Thor’s hand in Thor: The Dark World, or Nebula removing her own hand in GotG – there were severed hands all over the place! Kevin Feige was asked about this, and ended up admitting it was done purposely, and was meant as a homage to Star Wars: Episode V, The Empire Strikes Back.

    The Dora Milaje

    There were many great things about Black Panther, but one of the best ones was the Dora Milaje. This Wakandian army of fierce females you did not want to mess with, was there to protect the king, as well as Wakanda. But not many people know that the Dora Milaje is, in fact, partially based on a real female army in Africa – the Dahomey Amazons. They’re considered to be the most feared women on the planet.

    The Incredible Hulk deleted scene

    There are quite a few deleted scenes in the MCU, which you can watch on the Blu-Ray bonus features. But this one particular scene was so dark, we’re not surprised it got cut from the film. The Incredible Hulk was actually meant to open with Bruce Banner traveling to the north, intending to take his own life with a gun. But he ends up becoming the Hulk, who then crushes the gun. In the back of the scene, you can also see Captain America’s shield – as that’s where Cap was later found.

    What’s with the number 12?

    Ever wondered why the MCU features the number 12 so many times? It starts when Tony Stark gives Pepper 12 percent credit to Stark Tower. Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were born 12 minutes apart, and in GotG, Rocket laughs after he hears Peter only has 12 percent of a plan to stop Ronan. After fans theorized about the importance of the number, James Gunn was finally asked about it. The answer? He said “the number 12 is often used in writing/comedy because it’s the highest one syllable number.”

    The MCU’s news channel

    Marvel’s universe is admittedly one of the greatest fictional creations in cinema. It’s an entire world, and what world would be complete without its own news channel? Marvel has WHIH Newsfront as it’s official news program, and from time to time they upload a segment of it on YouTube. From covering the New York attack, to interviewing Scott Lang (Ant-Man), it covers everything happening in our favorite universe. It stars Leslie Bibb as Christine Everhart, whom you may remember as the reporter who got involved with Tony Stark in Iron Man.

    Captain Marvel was supposed to be in Age of Ultron

    Probably every Marvel fan is looking forward to its first female-starring film, Captain Marvel, starring the talented Brie Larson. Fans were excited to see her take on the role for the movie, which also starred Samuel L. Jackson and was set in the ’90s. But apparently, she almost made a cameo appearance in Avengers: Age of Ultron, as Cap and Black Widow assembled a new team of Avengers. Joss Whedon then decided against it, feeling it wouldn’t do justice to the anticipated character. After her standalone film was released, she made an epic appearance in Endgame.

    The Hulk was voiced by Lou Ferrigno

    Before Mark Ruffalo, before Edward Norton, there was Lou Ferrigno. He’s widely remembered for playing Bruce Banner in the popular ’70s TV show, The Incredible Hulk. He didn’t even need CGI, they just painted him green and that was convincing enough! Marvel producers decided they needed to honor him in some way, and found a great way to do it. They asked Ferrigno to voice the Hulk itself – and he did in every film, up to Thor: Ragnarok which saw the Hulk’s story arc expanding, and Mark Ruffalo took over.

    Curse of the Mind Stone

    There’s a fan theory that quite possibly depicts what’s really going on in the story arc that leads to the famous “snappening” (the moment where Thanos – spoiler alert – snaps his fingers and turns half of the universe to dust). It’s possible that both Thanos and Tony Stark have been cursed by the Mind Stone. While Tony is obsessed with preventing the vision he saw of the dead Avengers, Thanos is obsessed with preventing overpopulation like on Titan. Thanos even tells Tony: “I know your soul…it is much like mine, cursed with knowledge.”

    The reason why Marvel wants to remove Thor

    As much as we love Thor, fans are beginning to speculate about his fate in the MCU, especially since Chris Hemsworth’s contract is coming to an end after Avengers 4. Marvel will also probably have to get rid of some of their many, many characters at some point. Thor has already lost his father, his home planet, most of his people, and his brother (why Loki, why?) – so in terms of plot, he hasn’t got much left to give. Not to mention that with $30 million dollars per movie, Chris is the 3rd highest-paid actor in the MCU, so losing him might be financially beneficial for Disney.

    Keeping up with the comics

    As the first Captain Marvel movie was set in the 1990s, Carol Danvers’ hair matched the hairstyle sported by the character in the comics of that same period. Since Avengers: Endgame takes place in the present day, however, the decision was likely made to update Captain Marvel’s hairstyle to the one currently used in the comics, which is much shorter and pointier. Rocket Raccoon even makes a joke about it in the movie. When Carol says she won’t be returning to Earth anytime soon, Rocket quips, “What, you gonna get another haircut?”

    No need to stay all the way through

    While Marvel Studios didn’t invent the post-credits stinger, the official name for those short scenes featured at the end of every Marvel movie, they’ve certainly made them what they are today. Avengers: Endgame, however, is different. Being the last movie in the Infinity Stones Saga, it wraps up the storylines of all the movies that preceded it. As such, it doesn’t have a stinger. If you wait all the way to the end, however, you’ll hear the sound of a hammer clanging on metal from the first Iron Man – the movie that started it all.

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  2. Shadowprophet

    Shadowprophet Truthiness

    I have a theory, People will think it's insane, But, As I tend to do, allow me to explain why this makes perfect sense.

    Now, Hear me out, Sure, No one wants to believe it's possible. but, I believe At some point within the Next Decade, "Which is actually about five minutes in Hollywood time" We will see a Marvel DC crossover.


    The reasons why I believe this are many-fold, Firstly, People will say, That will never happen, Disney owns Marvel now, They will never allow a crossover,


    This was Sonys Spiderman, This Spiderman was willingly Killed by Sony, So Disney could give us


    This Spiderman, Yes, Disney paid a lot of money for Spiderman, Disney loves Lots of money.

    Very often When Buttloads of Money are involved, Disney is known to allow crossovers you wouldn't think possible.



    Random Spiderboy image, This is the fused Spiderman and superboy, If I'm not mistaken This is Conner kent Superboy because,


    Superman, Was Fused with Captain America, And this character is called, "Clark Kent The Super Soldier" <-- Also canon

    Lastly, And this part can not be overstated, In Both Continuities, Those Dc Marvel Crossovers are Canon Meaning in the Marvel universe, Captain America Knows Superman, In the Dc universe Batman knows Wolverine, And it's official Canon,


    This Character is Canon, His name Is Dark Claw, In Zero Hour When The DC universe collided with the Marvel universe, many characters were fused. Dark Claw is actually named Logan Wayne. And Both the Dc And Marvel Anual Encyclopedias recognize these characters.

    The point is, There are preexisting loopholes that would allow Such a fight as Superman Versus Galactus.
    In fact, that's happened before in the comics, Superman, actually lost and was made into one of Galactusus Harolds


    None of these were What if's or one-offs, The crossovers were such big events they are officially considered canon. By both corporations ... Consider this, A DC marvel crossover movie would be so hyped, It could literally break the box office worldwide, Analytically there is no reason to believe it could never happen.
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  3. Toroid

    Toroid Founding Member

    I think you nailed it with this.
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  4. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below


    Need a superhero binge? Here's the best viewing order of all 23 Marvel movies during quarantine

    Since 2008, the Marvel movies have given us a steady stream of superheroes and stories that have ruled movie theaters - remember them? - and become a must-see staple in our pop culture. With coronavirus keeping folks at home, it’s a good time to binge all 23 movies (so far) for the first time or the umpteenth.

    Sure, you could watch them in release order, starting with the original "Iron Man," and be totally fine. But with certain tales taking place in the past and some connecting more directly to others in the overall narrative, maybe try out a different viewing order while in quarantine when you’re not baking bread or trying out bird-watching. (Most Marvel movies can be streamed on Disney+, while the rest – including the Sony-released “Spider-Man” films – are available on various digital platforms.)

    Start here:

    1. ‘Captain America: The First Avenger’

    A top-notch World War II origin story for Steve Rogers (Chris Evans), the first Cap flick comes earliest in the timeline, introduces the heart and soul of the MCU, and flings our hero into modern day to meet Nick Fury (Samuel L. Jackson) to tease a bigger deal at stake.

    2. ‘Captain Marvel’
    In addition to seeing a cosmic aspect to the MCU, we get to see Fury in the ‘90s as a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent and how his dealings with supremely powerful Carol Danvers (Brie Larson) inspire the Avengers Initiative. Also, the end-credits scene where a modern-day Carol meets the Avengers is one heck of a flash-forward tease.

    Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.) builds his first armored suit in 2008's "Iron Man."

    3. ‘Iron Man’

    Now’s the time for the other important origin, of arms-dealing genius playboy billionaire philanthropist Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.) and his journey toward being a tin man with a heart. This is also a totally fine place to start – since it’s the first MCU movie – but it’s cool to know a little more about Fury’s initiative when he arrives, cloak and dagger style, to recruit Stark.

    4. ‘The Incredible Hulk’
    True, Mark Ruffalo is a WAY better Bruce Banner than this film’s star, Edward Norton, but it’s still helpful to watch this chapter to figure out how the Hulk came to be with the whole gamma radiation thing and all. However, for those who want a speedier experience, it’s totally skippable.

    5. ‘Iron Man 2’
    This one isn’t great either, though is essential in terms of introducing assassin Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson) and boosting the status of another future Avenger, Stark’s bud James Rhodes (Don Cheadle), aka War Machine. An end-credits scene also showcases a magical hammer, setting the stage for…

    Chris Hemsworth and Chris Evans team up as Thor and Captain America respectively in "The Avengers."

    6. ‘Thor’

    Finally! Chris Hemsworth’s thunder god enters the MCU, with an adventure that kicks him out of Asgard to spend time on Earth to figure out his worthiness. The flick brings Thor’s trickster half-brother Loki (Tom Hiddleston) into the fold, plus keep your eyes open for a quick first appearance from ace archer Hawkeye (Jeremy Renner).

    7. ‘The Avengers’
    Ah, now we’re getting epic! Joss Whedon’s blockbuster brings together Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Black Widow, Hawkeye and Hulk (hello, Ruffalo!) to stave off an alien invasion of Manhattan perpetrated by Loki. Also of note: A glimpse of cosmic baddie Thanos pops up in an end-credits scene, setting the stage for our heroes’ biggest challenge.

    8. ‘Thor: The Dark World’
    The bad news: It’s a forgettable movie with the MCU’s absolute worst villain (Christopher Eccleston’s Malekith). The good news: The Aether, one of the Infinity Stones, possesses Thor’s girlfriend Jane Foster (Natalie Portman) and gets transported to outer-space oddball The Collector (Benicio del Toro). His appearance sets up…

    Star-Lord (Chris Pratt, from left), Groot (voiced by Vin Diesel), Rocket Racoon (voiced by Bradley Cooper), Drax (Dave Bautista) and Gamora (Zoe Saldana) play the misfit heroes of "Guardians of the Galaxy."

    9. ‘Guardians of the Galaxy’

    Here’s where we finally get an explanation of the all-powerful Infinity Stones and their appeal for Thanos. More entertaining, though, is a bunch of misfits banding together as a team, a talking tree and a raccoon are best friends and rogue-ish Star-Lord (Chris Pratt) tries to explain “Footloose” to space assassin Gamora (Zoe Saldana).

    10. ‘Iron Man 3’
    “Science Bros” Stark and Banner drove off together at the end of “Avengers,” so let’s catch up with them here in a primarily solo adventure as Iron Man deals with some serious PTSD from the attack of Manhattan and Ben Kingsley as the terrorist Mandarin (though there’s some twistiness in his reveal).

    11. ‘Captain America: The Winter Soldier’
    Cap learns his childhood best bud Bucky Barnes (Sebastian Stan) is a brainwashed assassin and that the evil Hydra has pretty much taken over S.H.I.E.L.D. from within. In addition, an end-credits scene introduces Scarlet Witch (Elizabeth Olsen), who becomes very important later, and her speedy bro Quicksilver (Aaron Taylor-Johnson).

    Ultron (voiced by James Spader) in a scene from the motion picture "Avengers: Age Of Ultron."

    12. ‘Avengers: Age of Ultron’

    Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver form an anti-Avengers squad with evil robot Ultron (James Spader), a peace-keeping artificial intelligence created by Stark and Banner that turns megalomaniacal. The kids wind up teaming with the Avengers to save their Eastern European country and Vision (Paul Bettany) debuts as an android powered by the Soul Stone.

    13. ‘Ant-Man’
    Ex-criminal Scott Lang (Paul Rudd) hooks up with inventor Hank Pym (Michael Douglas) and his daughter Hope Van Dyne (Evangeline Lilly) to save the day using a supersuit that utilizes Pym’s size-changing tech. Bigger picture: An end-credits scene shows Cap and Falcon helping Winter Soldier and needing help from a certain super-shrinky guy.

    14. ‘Captain America: Civil War’
    The drama of “Civil War” mainly centers on Cap and Tony’s disagreement over government oversight of the Avengers, leading to a humongous hero-vs.-hero battle. Cap and Winter Soldier throw down with Iron Man due to a tragic reveal, plus fans see a high-profile debut from Black Panther (Chadwick Boseman) and Spider-Man (Tom Holland).

    15. ‘Black Panther’
    Boseman’s Wakandan ruler T’Challa watched his dad die in “Civil War” and now heads home to rule the African nation, whose vast high-tech superiority to the rest of the world is a secret. However, American mercenary Erik Killmonger (Michael B. Jordan) emerges as a dangerous contender to the throne.

    16. ‘Spider-Man: Homecoming’
    “Homecoming” is the MCU’s version of a teen movie, as Holland’s Peter Parker – with Stark as mentor and father figure – tries to figure out a balance between being a kid and a hero. The crazy-smart rookie also has to deal with the Vulture (Michael Keaton), a criminal salvager using alien tech for various misdeeds.

    17. ‘Guardians of the Galaxy 2’
    Heading back into space to check in on our favorite galactic jerks, the sequel reveals that Star-Lord’s dad Ego (Kurt Russell) is a god-like Celestial with designs on universal consumption. Speaking of parents, Gamora’s sister Nebula (Karen Gillan) makes it clear she wants to off their bad dad, Thanos. (Yes, don’t forget about him.)

    18. ‘Doctor Strange’
    Stephen Strange (Benedict Cumberbatch) is a self-centered surgeon crippled by a car accident, who, at his lowest point, learns the ways of the mystic arts from the Ancient One (Tilda Swinton). It turns out the new Sorcerer Supreme’s Eye of Agamotto is the Time Stone and an end-credits scene features a visit from Thor that leads right into…

    19. ‘Thor Ragnarok’
    Thor’s long-lost evil sister Hela (Cate Blanchett) leads a hostile takeover of Asgard and the thunder god is blasted to the battle planet Sakaar, where Thor reconnects with Hulk and, with the help of warrior queen Valkyrie (Tessa Thompson), tussles with Hela. It ends with Asgardian survivors on a spaceship, where Thor and Loki are met with a mysterious and formidable vessel.

    20. ‘Avengers: Infinity War’
    Oh no, Thanos (Josh Brolin) is here – and he’s irked. The big guy defeats Thor and other various superfriends en route to collecting all six Infinity Stones, leading to an all-out battle vs. our heroes in Wakanda. Thanos uses the collected stones to wipe out half of all life in the universe – including many of the franchise’s good guys – in one bonkers cliffhanger.

    21. ‘Ant-Man and the Wasp’
    The “Ant-Man” sequel acts as interlude, with Scott, Hope (now with her own supersuit as the Wasp) and Hank needing to rescue Janet van Dyne (Michelle Pfeiffer) from the trippy Quantum Realm. Unfortunately, Scott gets trapped there himself during an expedition when Hope, Janet and Hank are all snapped out of existence on Earth.

    Captain America (Chris Evans, left) leads a legion of superheroes in "Avengers: Endgame."

    22. ‘Avengers: Endgame’

    A desperate attempt to set things right ends badly, and five years later, the remaining Avengers travel through time and space to collect the Infinity Stones before Thanos can nab them. The result is a thrilling climax filled with huge action and emotional sacrifice – all you really need to know is Cap wields Thor’s hammer and it’s totally amazing.

    23. ‘Spider-Man: Far From Home’

    In the “Endgame” epilogue, Peter Parker puts superhero business on hold so he can go on a class trip to Europe and tell his crush, MJ (Zendaya), how he feels about her. Strange new dude Mysterio (Jake Gyllenhaal) proves an obstacle, and Spidey's rocked with a gut-punch announcement by controversial newsman J. Jonah Jameson (J.K. Simmons).

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    Toroid Founding Member

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