September 11

nivek

As Above So Below
17 years ago tomorrow, our nation was brought to its knees by an enemy that has since been welcomed with open arms to our country.

17 years ago, we used to know who our enemy was.

17 years later, and we aren’t allowed to say who our enemy is anymore for the sake of diversity.


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Standingstones

Celestial
What is mind boggling is that with hundreds of Billions of dollars spent on so-called 'Homeland Security' no one was brought to justice or trial for the 9/11 crimes. I know I feel safer these days, yeah right!
 

nivek

As Above So Below
A picture of the twin towers on the night of September 10, 2001, 17 years ago tonight...

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Shadowprophet

Truthiness
That's right, It's a war being fought on all fronts, Even politically, The enemy weakens us to a point that we can't even properly identify the enemy.

This is one reason I avoid modern politics...

To the serious side of this, I remember when it happened, It was a painful awakening, I think it was for many people,
The fantasy reality we all held so tightly was taken from us that day and replaced with a harsh truth.

We have never been the same as before that day, We may never be again.
 

Toroid

Founding Member
What is mind boggling is that with hundreds of Billions of dollars spent on so-called 'Homeland Security' no one was brought to justice or trial for the 9/11 crimes. I know I feel safer these days, yeah right!
The guy they said was Osama was buried at sea and so was John Wilkes Booth. :eek:
 

Toroid

Founding Member
Is there a larger agenda?
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The shadow

The shadow knows!
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17 years ago Rikki and I were on our honeymoon. We stayed in late after my birthday. I turned on the TV.. I wanted revenge. for what I saw. Rikki bless her heart, Turned my mood around. But I know she grieved.
Dead,.. How can you Aplogize for over 3000 dead. no one has tried. No one is sorry. so how can I forgive? Or forget.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Put the flag out.

My wife and I tend to avoid all the tribute. She was trapped in Manhattan with her family and had we both had friends and acquaintances in those buildings. I never got closer than the Tappan Zee bridge that day but clearly remember that pall of smoke rising. Hospitals in Rockland and Westchester were gearing up for massive causalities that never arrived. It's one of those times when you will always remember where you were, who you were with and what you were doing.

And again, it isn't all about Manhattan. Christ knows what would have happened to Flight 93 had it made it to wherever it was headed.

Not the day for stupid conspiracy theory either.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
Put the flag out.

My wife and I tend to avoid all the tribute. She was trapped in Manhattan with her family and had we both had friends and acquaintances in those buildings. I never got closer than the Tappan Zee bridge that day but clearly remember that pall of smoke rising. Hospitals in Rockland and Westchester were gearing up for massive causalities that never arrived. It's one of those times when you will always remember where you were, who you were with and what you were doing.

And again, it isn't all about Manhattan. Christ knows what would have happened to Flight 93 had it made it to wherever it was headed.

Not the day for stupid conspiracy theory either.
Flight 93 was headed to the capitol or white house.
 

goblin

Noble
I remember that morning, and the days after. The shock of it all. If you will forgive me the TL;DR:

I was living in an apartment in Chicago's South Loop. I was working for a phone / cable TV / Internet company; they had facilities in the same building (which was sort of several buildings that connected to one another). I was working from home that morning so I could let some contractors into the facility, and be there while they worked. I had 'always on' Internet since I was in the same building as our network. I rolled out of bed, plopped down in front of my computer and saw the chatter on our company's internal chat... what was going on? I turned on the TV....

It was a huge and terrible thing. I remember feeling like we had fucked up so bad to let this happen. I felt... I felt like I should have zero tolerance for the kind of medieval thinking that led to this action. I felt like this was revenge for the Gulf War of the early '90s. I didn't know, I just felt. I felt I should be doing more to protect my fellow citizens, with whatever skills I had. Whatever moment of clarity I thought I had, it passed.

In the days that followed, I was pleasantly surprised that my fellow Americans largely rallied behind our country and didn't just say we deserved it. I always remember... there was this small flower shop I happened to walk past every day on my way to or from work. I always looked in because, frankly, there were always cute girls working there. On 9/12, they had drawn an American flag on the chalkboard in front of their store, and were giving away small American flags. That was the first time I saw the pro American sentiment after 9/11 and it lifted my spirits.

In the years since I have felt like 9/11 was the result of a conflict between two entities, the United States / the House of Said and Bin Laden / Al Qaeda that wanted to influence Saudi Arabia and the Middle East in general. I have no problem condemning 9/11 however, period, full stop.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
I don't think that this topic is a good place to discuss the many factors involved in the event. nor the sad end of building seven.
I will say I have studied the event. I am satisfied with my findings. never forget..
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
I don't think that this topic is a good place to discuss the many factors involved in the event. nor the sad end of building seven.
I will say I have studied the event. I am satisfied with my findings. never forget..

I am as well.....and am also glad most of these enemies have now paid for this crime.
 
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