Should we believe in Coincidences?

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  1. Jim_from_the_South

    Jim_from_the_South Honorable

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    I've been researching the signs on the Rendlesham Forest UFO sighting (I have translated them), and something caught my attention. I thought you might appreciate this idea as well.

    The signs in proto-Sumerian for Ezen and Ub are interesting.

    Ezen can be defined as: a festival, a song, (party or celebration).

    The sign looks like this:

    ZZ0.jpb.jpg

    Those are simply two variations of the same sign - used sometimes with the
    lines and sometimes not.

    UB may be defined as : a ruin mount. But it also contains the theme of "lament", so
    it's more of a memorial mound, burial mound, mound of fallen heroes, etc.
    Not a burial pit or individual grave, but an elevated mound filled with fallen warriors.
    Here's the sign (looks Hebrew or Witchey, right?)

    ZZ1.jpg

    As a compound sign, which is completely normal and acceptable in Sumerian
    writing, the Ezen Ub would thus give us:

    A festival in Memorial for Fallen Warriors. And it would look exactly like this,
    with both variations given:

    ZZ2.jpb.jpg

    Do you recognize it yet?


    How about if I show it to you in a more modern version, that found on
    US Army Air military airplanes from the beginning of WWII?

    ZZ3.jpb.jpg


    One represents a 6000 Year Old Memorial to fallen Warriors,
    the other a 75 year old logo or symbol used for heroes headed into War.

    And no, these were supposedly NOT known or the symbols understood, prior
    to about 1980s or so. And no record that I have been able to find, records
    the combined symbols that I have shown you, although as I said they
    represent valid symbols, and probably do appear on some tablet or other.

    Coincidence?
     
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  2. Jim_from_the_South

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  3. nivek

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    Coincidences seems to be a random convergence of elements or variables into a situation or outcome...Could such an event actually take place or does it simply give that appearance of a coincidence?...Are there unseen threads or unknown ties that actually bring such things together or could there be a hidden energy connection in some way through the sea of consciousness that recalls and reconnects to such things subtly or subconscioisly?...

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  4. August

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    Had this happen only once to me where there were so many events on both sides of the story leading up to the conclusion that it is impossible to think it was coincidence.
     
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  5. Jim_from_the_South

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    Yes, I didn't think it was a coincidence either. But if it is correct, it indicates that there is
    a group that understands the true association between the Sumerians and the history of mankind.
    One that knows quite a bit that it is not sharing.
     
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  6. SOUL-DRIFTER

    SOUL-DRIFTER Life Long Researcher

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    If that object came from a parallel universe or an alternate Earth, then that may explain the similarities. The object is from the military there and the symbol a variation of ours.
     
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  7. pigfarmer

    pigfarmer tall, thin, irritable

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    cool.

    United States military aircraft national insignia - Wikipedia
     
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  8. pigfarmer

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    Coincidence is just statistical probability. Thirty people in a room - well before the $%!!# virus - and two of them are likely to have the same birthday, that kind of thing. Or maybe a friend you haven't spoken with a while calls you at the same time you were picking the phone up to call them. Turns out some things are just part of the big numbers game.

    This lady can speak intelligently on the topic: Koestler Parapsychology Unit (no title)
    I've heard Dr. Watt do a few interviews - two or three with Howard Hughes and the Unexplained. Worth tracking down and listening to.

    Those ancient symbols are common shapes. Given a few thousand years that combination isn't surprising, what makes it sticky is the 'warriors' reference. Swastikas are also ancient symbols that have gained new meaning n the 20th century.
    Finland's air force quietly drops swastika symbol

    So to answer your question, its cool but probably just coincidence. Millions of people over thousands of years makes it likely to pop up in many places. Million monkeys, million typewriters, million years. One will probably bang out Hamlet.

    Synchronicity though, is a horse of another color. More than coincidence, tapping into the collective unconscious. I've thought I had a couple of odd things you might put into that category but never anything really eye popping. This wasn't a bad book even if I didn't finish it. Explains it well enough but then goes off into woo-woo stuff that lost my interest.
    [​IMG]
     
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  9. Jim_from_the_South

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    Interesting links, thanks.
    As to the signs being used elsewhere ... no. Those two were not used in any culture
    that we know of during that time period. Roughly 2000 years later the Hebrews
    adopted the star, but that's because they were the scribes of Sumerian lands and
    as Amorites, had recently conquered former Sumeria.
    I have been unable to find a sign similar to the first one used anywhere until
    recently.
     
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  10. pigfarmer

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    Groovy.

    My wife found this in crackers yesterday.

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  11. Jim_from_the_South

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    Those four holes on the bottom cracker line up with the Southern Cross, telling
    us, quite clearly, that these particular makers of snacks are from Sirius.
     
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  12. Skepticide123

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    It's a sign of the Cracker Armageddon! The great final battle with the cookies in the kitchen is neigh..
    Only the good whole crackers will receive the Cheese Whiz.. To eBay with ya to collect your cool million..
     
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  13. August

    August Metanoia

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    For real ? Cracker- Geddon .

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  14. michael59

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    I remember one time telling a friend that was visiting that I had never seen a meteor.

    Later, he wanted to get something out of his car so, I had to go down with him because the apartment building doors locked at 10pm so, he would not be able to get to the intercom and get back in the building. When we got downstairs, he went right and I went to the left because I wanted to get out of the light and look at the night sky. I no sooner looked up and here comes a meteor falling from the sky!

    I sounded like a babbling idiot because it caught me off guard and I was trying to get him to look up and see. Of course all he did was turn around, look at me and say, "What?" lol He didn't see it. It had already happened.

    As we went back upstairs I was saying how weird it was because we were just talking about me not seeing one before and that the timing had been impeccable. He said, you mean it was a coincidence. I said, is that all you think it was? He said, well...if ...it ...wasn't a coincidence, what was it?

    I didn't have an answer.
     
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    @Skepticide123

    You think that was awesome? When we got back to my apartment I was all excited to share with him exactly what I had seen. It came down from the sky at an angle then just below cloud cover level it stopped short and jumped at another shorter angle into the clouds. It was just a small strip of clouds on an otherwise clear night.

    Long story short, it made a backwards check mark. When we make a check mark we start with the small line first and then make the longer mark. This did the opposite. My friend then informed me that I had still not seen a meteor yet. lol
     
  16. pigfarmer

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    No human would arrange crackers like that! Clearly that entirely unique arrangement of triangles is highly significant.


    ..... of the fact that they are damned tasty in tomato soup !
     
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  17. pigfarmer

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    I've been surfing a lot of weird stuff as it relates to that remote viewing thread. Over there I commented that NDEs, Remote Viewing and the like have a lot in common. I was listening to a Howard Hughes interview in Anthony Peake who has apparently written a dozen or so books on similar topics and was talking about things like autism and epilepsy and precognition. He sounded kind of Graham Hancoky, pseudosciency to me (and I haven't finished the podcast) but it did provide some grist for the mill. Edition 495 - Anthony Peake

    Peake was talking about a precognitive experience he had with an epileptic that got my attention.

    Psychiatry Online
    PARANORMAL EXPERIENCES WITH POTENTIAL VALIDITY
    Science is the pursuit of the unknown. Although most reports of paranormal experiences reflect intrinsic changes within the experient's brain, due to the consequences of sudden changes in life style or trauma, there is evidence that some paranormal experiences may be transformations of information not normally accessible. We have employed the approach that measurement rather than dismissal of claims is more beneficial for neuroscience and for the patient.

    If I told you 150 years ago that you could be in two places at once (separated by thousands of miles), you would have considered the statement irrational, even crazy. However, if I told you today that you can talk on a telephone and be functionally a few thousand miles away, simultaneously, interacting with the neurocognitive processes of another person, you might consider the revelation pedestrian. The difference between your responses to the two statements is understanding mechanism and the process.

    Haven't listened to this one yet but put it on my Next Up list
    Out of Body, Roger | Radiolab | WNYC Studios
     
  18. Jim_from_the_South

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    I think it was a human who arranged them that way. In fact, it was a Priest.
    See how he burned just the edges, so that we would be reminded of the
    fires of Hell, and yet it would not spoil his meal? That's his two-fer.
     
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  19. Jim_from_the_South

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    By being somewhat "Graham Hancoky" do you mean he sounded like he was on shrooms?
     
  20. pigfarmer

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    Like someone with a bellyache? :) Shrooms upset my guts.

    Nah. Just something about him that - to me - says entertainment not science. But, having had a look, there are real peer reviewed papers out there to cruise through. Admittedly most of us breeze through to Conclusions ......
     

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