the 2020 election

Discussion in 'Present & Current Events' started by The shadow, Jan 2, 2020.

  1. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    Well I will be voting for him so there's that, which is a vote for the lesser of the two evils we have in this election in my opinion...If people want to judge other people by who they vote for then there you have it judge me all you want, it will be as meaningless to me as this election is, if I receive condemnation for voting for whomever I want then that speaks volumes for the other person giving that condemnation...The President does not run this country nor does Congress, that should be quite obvious to any intelligent individual, voters in this country are not represented, if we were we would not have these two Goons as choices for president this year...This election will come and go just like every other one and Life Goes On and is much too short for me to worry about politics or become politically motivated like so many others have become these days...

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  2. Ron67

    Ron67 Ignorance isn’t bliss!

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    We had 2 goons over here so I voted for neither.Richard Pryor had it right,none of the above!.
     
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  3. nivek

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    ‘Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f--- things up,’ Obama reportedly told insiders

    Despite the best-friend bond Joe Biden touts with former President Obama, tensions have lingered between the two statesmen over their vastly different governing styles, according to a Politico report.

    To start, a number of anonymously sourced quotes from Obama leaked out throughout the 2020 Biden campaign where the former president allegedly expressed doubts about his former running mates’ fitness for office.

    “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f--k things up,” one Democrat who spoke to the former president recalled him saying.

    When lamenting his own diminishing relationship with the current Democratic electorate, particularly in Iowa, Obama reportedly told one 2020 candidate: “And you know who really doesn’t have it? Joe Biden.”

    Some Biden aides pointed out that, when Obama’s endorsement of Biden in 2020 finally did arrive, it didn’t have nearly the energy of his endorsement of Hillary Clinton in 2016.

    “I don’t think there’s ever been someone so qualified to hold this office,” Obama said of Clinton in 2016 in an endorsement video. “I believe Joe has all of the qualities we need in a president right now … and I know he will surround himself with good people,” Obama said in Biden’s endorsement video.

    Going back to 2016 when Obama glossed over Biden for Clinton when he expressed interest in a presidential run, Obama aides tried to frame the president’s snub as an act of compassion: Biden-- grieving the loss of his son Beau in 2015 -- would not be mentally equipped to handle a campaign.

    “But numerous administration veterans, including loyalists to both Obama and Biden, remember it differently: Obama had begun embracing Clinton as a possible successor years before Biden lost his son, while the vice president was laying the groundwork for his own campaign,” the Politico report read.

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  4. nivek

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    Votes that aren't delivered on time isn't important either I guess...

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    USPS warned 46 states that it can't guarantee that all mail-in-ballots would arrive on time to be counted

    The US Postal Service sent notices to 46 states and Washington, DC, warning that they may not be able to deliver mail-in-ballots in the November election in time to be counted, potentially disenfranchising voters, The Washington Post reported.

    Millions of voters who could vote by mail could follow all the rules to send in their ballots, but USPS may still be unable to deliver their ballot in time for it to be tallied.

    In six states and DC, the warning is only for a small number of voters, but in 40 of the states, including key states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Florida, the delays could impact a large number of mail-in-ballots, since these states have tight election deadlines.

    "The Postal Service is asking election officials and voters to realistically consider how the mail works," Martha Johnson, a spokeswoman for the USPS, said in a statement, according to The Post.

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  5. Standingstones

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    It would seem that it is likely that the 2020 elections won’t be settled by the November 4th morning.
     
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  6. nivek

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  7. The shadow

    The shadow The shadow knows!

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  8. AlienView

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    Veteran GOP Strategist Takes On Trump — And His Party — In 'It Was All A Lie'

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    Veteran political consultant Stuart Stevens has spent years working as a strategist for Republican campaigns, including the presidential bids of Bob Dole, George W. Bush and Mitt Romney. But Stevens didn't support the party's candidate in the 2016 presidential election — and he wasn't alone.

    "In 2016, when I went out and attacked Trump on television," he says, "I would say maybe a third of the party hierarchy would email me and thank me for doing this.".........."

    "In his new book, It Was All a Lie: How the Republican Party Became Donald Trump, Stevens argues that the party's support for Trump isn't just a pragmatic choice. Instead, he says, it reflects the party's complete abandonment of principles it long claimed to embrace, such as fiscal restraint, personal responsibility and family values........."




    If Donald Trump loses in the coming election, unless the results are overwhelmingly against him, he will
    claim fraud - And fraudulently claim the mail in ballots are fraudulent.

    So far all the analysts I've seen ALL SAY there in no evidence that mail in voting Leeds to fraud.
    The only fraud I worry about is Donald Trump !


    Let me add that I'm not necessarily supporting Joe Biden - Only pointing out that
    the 'make America great again' Donald Trump has failed to leed during the current
    pandemic and economic crises - The pandemic is worse in the United States than
    anywhere else in the World !
     
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  9. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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  11. Zeke

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    That's interesting to hear about your anti-political stance. I can relate. But..

    The issue with Q-Anon can't be avoided because they have infiltrated all major platforms and now even have a few elected officials who (claim support of), especially now with the election getting closer.

    On FB I have a handful of contacts who post their messages regularly (we have overlapping occult interests), along with DMs with links to YouTube explainer videos of their mission and objectives. And I'm actively trying to avoid them!

    Remember Pizzagate with Clinton running a ped o file operation out of a pizzeria - this is these shadow guys again but now many times bigger. Yes they claim to be "patriots". So am I. So is most everyone. We just disagree how to go about doing it most effectively.

    To give you an example (yes that's my real name and Twitter account, Zeke is also a real nickname for forums I started to use) - I posted the hi-jacking the #SaveTheChildren Movement on my social accounts.

    "Q Anon peeps are exploiting child trafficking (pushing bogus theories based on a real serious thing) for own political agenda. If you're seeing these on FB/Twitter it's their main strategy to hi-jack, magnify and blame every one of their perceived political enemies. #QAnon

    "Mostly, anti-trafficking activists are just incredulous that QAnon has made their cause its own.

    “When I talk to my friends in the anti-trafficking movement, we’ll say, ‘Oh, it’s Pizzagate all over again,’” Ms. Williamson of Love146 said. “And this time, it’s even worse."



    And if you scroll down the thread, the Q-Anon supporter or bot insinuated that I'm a "MAP" (I had to Google what it was) it means "Minor Attracted Person"! wtf. So any of their critics is a target of being labeled some child trafficker, pe do, or MAP! Sick. They hide in the shadows behind a mask smearing people, claiming they are good-doers saving children, do anything to win. They might even be projecting their own demons, who knows.
     
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  12. Zeke

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    On the other hand, I've also started following a few conservative channels - because they are highlighting the radical marxist/maoist lunatics (similar to Q using child trafficking) exploiting the death of George Floyd and using the shield of "BLM" - mainly Antifa extremists going around destroying property and looting. Lunatics. They are not "Democrats". They are Marxists/Moaists.

    I follow these black southern conservative guys "Hodge Twins" on the issue and am on board. Along with the Weinstein brothers who also have been one of the first to be harassed by the maoist lunatics at universatives.

    Back to the first hand. We got Trump's pet dogs like Hannity. This puts a mirror up and what he sees must have really triggered him. Yest manipulated media tag by Twitter was added, which is fine, the point and blow is made.

    Trump: A Great American (Embarrassment)

     
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  13. Zeke

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    A real life Dave Chappelle skit :laugh8:

     
  14. Zeke

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    :laugh8: Trump even replied to this one, Maher got under his skin bad... how do you say it... Triggered.

     
  15. pigfarmer

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    Actually, that's a given. We just want them to be good at it.
     
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  16. Cosmic Cat

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    The entire thing has turned into a mule and elephant show pun intended....
     
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  17. nivek

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    I know next to nothing about this qanon movement or character or whatever it is, I guess you could call it ignorance instead of avoidance since I've seen the name around and people talking about it I just never got involved in the conversations nor did any background research myself...I've never been much of a political type guy at all nor get involved in political parties, I'm registered as independent voter, in the last presidential election I voted for Gary Johnson the Libertarian candidate who I'm told is also a pothead LOL...

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  18. nivek

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    Well never said I was 'anti' political, I just care not to get too involved with it, if I was anti I would not be voting or anything... I understand these things have their place and their time in our society so be it... I've noticed you're pretty involved in American politics for not being an American, why is that, if you don't mind me asking... I'm assuming that because you said earlier that you voted in the Polish elections...

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  19. Standingstones

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    I once read an article that stated that there is this dark, evil cloud that inhabits Washington DC. That no matter what their intentions are, a politician will soon succumb to the dark side. Many politicians are seeking power and/or money. It doesn’t take much to tip them over to those dark traits.

    Maybe that is too grim an assessment but looking at what is going on currently you could easily say that something dark is happening in our nation’s capital.
     
  20. Cosmic Cat

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    Bats and Vampires prefer to work in the dark why not those leeches in Washington DC...
     

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