Gambeir
Celestial
I think it's you who've gotten a reply.
I think it's you who've gotten a reply.
notdej
Honorable
you didn't give the option of: 'or not at all'
3FEL9
Islander
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
Dont kill the messenger
Considering the source says that no one is following in the footsteps of Einstein and Darwin I'm not sure I'd accept their answer.
nivek
As Above So Below
Concepts are typically first theorized, then predicted, then sought out...It's one thing for a concept to exist but quite another for the existence of something that signifies it, a thing outside itself...
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
I like seeing an electron beam though.....its very cool.
3FEL9
Islander
How ya mean ?
nivek
As Above So Below
Could you elaborate on this?...Perhaps there are different visitors in recent times compared to 60 years ago, although many shapes remain similar in design, there are some unique one of a kinds...
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
From the images at the time of Kenneth Arnold's sighting it compared quite nicely to several aircraft designs of the times.....which are still be used in a couple cases.
Gambeir
Celestial
Yes, but I didn't ask; you asked.
Leta is manifestly ignorant of the information I've posted. Consequently is stating factual knowledge common to such ideas as particle trajectories, and so it's unfair to both of us, and which is meaningless to even ask about since we can now physically see the magnetic particle field with relatively simple tools, which are shown in Wheeler's book, so we don't have to calculate particle trajectories with 18th century mathematical formula when we can see it with our own eyeballs now days. Today we can measure the trajectories directly in certain instances. You can do it in your own living room now days.
You're just reacting to the notion that what what you think you know is probably all fucked up and don't like it and don't want to think about the alternative that you now know almost nothing. LOL....well tough shit, we are all in the same boat and who's to blame; the Einsteinian Quantum Quacks is who.
Quantum Mechanics doesn't explain Young's double slit experiment. It is in fact rebuked most strongly in the paper I cited. This experiment has been the focus of intense study for a very long time. It's extremely important to understand what it implies about the nature of our reality.
David Deutsch once said that in all the Universe it was the strangest thing he knew of.
David Deutsch - Wikipedia
So the nature of the magnetic field is not even questionable any longer. To continue to pretend otherwise is delusional, or the product of ignorance, and that's all there is to it. It means we have to fall back and re-compute what we are now calling charges. That's all it means, but in doing that we are also going to end up with a revised understanding of electrical theory. That is almost a certainty in my opinion.
Gambeir
Celestial
What the hell are you talking about? These aren't beams....they are electrons...right: Right?
I think Farnsworth sneaked that beam business in the back door.
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
The image I posted is a beam of electrons.
Gambeir
Celestial
Basically I have to think that the majority of UFO's we see are not alien ships and never were. Now undoubtedly there are alien ships visiting earth, but most are not in my opinion.
Let me first recommend this guy John Iwaszko who has a series of video's on Youtube addressing the known ways to antigravity. John Iwaszko
I suspect that the early UFO's which typically have three half round balls on the base are in reality employing a gyroscopic centrifugal inertial propulsion and guidance system together with what are likely coanda effects driven by conventional motors, either jet or combustion engines.
In this image of the Adamski UFO it can clearly be seen that there is a lazy susan arrangement. There are three half balls which appear to be on a turn table or lazy susan like contraption. Then there appears to be a inner ring outside of the lazy susan and which also has what looks like it's forming a thrust ring inside the outer hull.
Gambeir
Celestial
I know...I know...but which is it? A beam or a beam of electrons, that's where there might be problem if we follow what Farnsworth seemed to think. These guys like Farnsworth, like Telsa, and Like Wheeler all seem to think that there are field or bands of beams of energy.
Gambeir
Celestial
These early UFO's almost have to be combinations of known aerodynamics such as the coanda effect, and likely mixed with other ideas, any number of which would be workable for the time period given the resources of a nation state like say Nazi Germany.
The half balls could also be Luenburg Lens, which would then be involved in producing gravity waves as I understand it, but the rub there is this is 1942 and the British were the ones with the lead in radar (microwaves) technology.
Luneburg lens - Wikipedia
Dr. Robert Baker is the leading authority that I'm aware of in high frequency generated gravity waves. If the Nazi's had developed such an advanced machine as early as 1942 then why wasn't it employed in warfare?
Robert M. L. Baker Jr. , Ph. D.
And as you recall from this thread there's the 1942 image of what appears to be the same vehicle photographed over China in 1942. Battle of Los Angeles February 1942.
Now we know that the Nazi's were working with the Japanese so an image taken over a Chinese City would be logical.
The Adamski UFO is not a home brewed psyop for profit. It isn't a collection of cast off parts like sawed in half ping pong balls and pie plates or hubcaps. It also isn't an alien ship. It's way too primitive for that. It just screams to be a human design coming out the that same period of time.
I think we have to ask ourselves this question: If these are not the product of nation states, but are the product of industry, then who knows and owns what? Who's really behind the curtain because it isn't looking to me like it's a nation state. It looks to me like it's a private organization or secret civilization and this would have to be the industrialists whom own the defense manufacturing facilities, many of which are global now, as they were then.
What do you guys/gals think?
Gambeir
Celestial
What do you think about this idea? That these machines are mostly man made, that they belong to or come from a secret civilization of the extreme wealth, and likely they have now built bases on the Moon an on Mars, and that our own corrupted political systems cannot tell us these truths since they are either ignorant of the reality, oblivious to that reality, or are themselves involved in hiding this truth?
I want to know what you people think of that concept.
I want to know what you people think of that concept.
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
Like I said the image I posted was of a beam of electrons.