The Anunnaki

ChrisIB

Honorable
The stories of Nibiru needing gold for it's atmosphere I viewed as fringe pseudo archaeology but recent Cuneiform transcriptions suggest some interesting aspects:

The Anunnaki had a rank system, the ruler, Anu, 60 (the highest number in the Sumerian sexagesimal system), heirs 50, scientists 30 and 20. How might we take to such a culture?

Time, 40 orbits of their planet was 144000 years, 3600 years per.

They established five cities on Earth, for living, ore processing, a beacon city for shuttles, a landing place, Shapar, and Sherupak, for health. The North line, based on Mt Arrata / Ararat, crosses the visible Euphrates river, was the location of the mission control centre. All five cities were equidistant, arranged in an arrow pointing to Separ.

The health centre was run by Sud. To create Homo Sapiens (for lower tasks) she used the essence of a male Anunnaki mixed with egg of an ape woman to give lulu amelu, mixed worker.
Later the hybrid was changed to allow breeding (it was unauthorised and the Anunnaki responsible arrested).
The humans became aware they were naked and so on and were expelled from the city (biblical serpent and Eden myths?).
With modern genetics, might not the branch be isolated and the Anunnaki genetic sections identified?
Would we as a hybrid species be interesting to those galactic Attenborough types?

The Anunnaki stationed on the space platforms needed rest, on land, from the weightlessness.
Interesting that an interstellar culture did not have artificial gravity. Is that consistent from a scientific perspective? Perhaps the technology does not scale or requires significant energy.
If general, it might take the shine off travel to the stars.
 

Toroid

Founding Member
You make a good point about the artificial gravity. Corey Goode said the SSP have gravity plates in facilities on mars that can mimic the gravity of a races' home world. I've heard stories of these plates being installed in elevators of skyscrapers to deceive the riders into believing they are traveling in a different direction which includes sideways. In the Lost Book of Enki it stated their ships are/were powered by water. They would refuel on mars because the escape velocity was lower and they had a contingent of Annunaki on that planet. They're actually Nibiruans and only received the name of Annunaki after settling earth. In the book 'Nothing In This Book Is True, But It’s Exactly How Things Are' Thoth claims the Annunaki and Sirians created humans 200,224 years ago from the year 2009.

The 144,000 number appears in the bible. According to Kent Dunn the Annunaki gave Moses 661 laws and fifteen of those are presently in a Vatican vault. Moses was given the oral Torah in 1312 BC. The Torah contains the first five Books of Moses: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers & Deuteronomy. It's interesting that Genesis is an anagram for See Sign. The Hebrew word for Genesis is Bereshit which is an anagram for See Birth. The creators of the Torah/Old Testament had full knowledge of the English language thousands of years before it was created. It could be an imported language from another world or the authors had access to time travel technology. From memory I believe the first written account of English was in 1258 AD.

In the Wingmakers interviews Dr. Jamisson Neruda said the ACIO (Advanced Contact Intelligence Organization) translated the Sumerian text. He didn't state they used Zecharia Sitchin as a front, but I presume they did. Peter the ACIO insider and/or James Rink claims the highest level of the ACIO is called the Numbers Group.
Torah - Wikipedia
144,000 - Wikipedia
 

Toroid

Founding Member
There's a spell in 'The Emerald Tablets of Thoth: The Atlantean' that's a perfect anagram and a rough description of the spell. LA-UM-I-L-GAN converts to Lug Animal. What's going on here? The tablets are said to be over forty thousand years old. Did the Atlanteans speak a derivation of English? I suspect the letters in our alphabet are simply a set of tones that are universal. Thoth gave Drunvalo Melchizedek an Atlantean word, phrase or spell that allowed him to move the Sphinx in Egypt by X number of degrees.

In 'The Keepers' by Jim Sparks he has a Gray alphabet matched to ours. They're a two billion year old race. There are no symbols for Q, T, U, V, X & Z.
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ChrisIB

Honorable
On the flip side, if gold was not just a term of linguistic convenience, I can't help thinking asteroid mining would have been far simpler, 4% are metallic, in fact one that hit in November 2017 contained a core of 600kg of gold. Just need to use spectrographic analysis of the sunlight from the surface to pin the constituents.

The Anunnaki were also supposed to have been here for hundreds of years. In a century our scientific development has been transformational, yet they just seemed to have plodded on ...
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
you know that all this nonsense started when zecharia sitchin (porpousefully) mis-translated cuneiform writings, right?
 

Rikki

High Priestess
the word Anunnaki means Giant or "fallen" many thing its a race of giants or angels.
so in this context what definition are you using?
Blessed be
Rikki
 

Rikki

High Priestess
you know that all this nonsense started when zecharia sitchin (porpousefully) mis-translated cuneiform writings, right?
I seen some of your post refer to a cosmic trickster would you please start a topic so I can understand the concept you are speaking of?
Blessed be
Rikki
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
I seen some of your post refer to a cosmic trickster would you please start a topic so I can understand the concept you are speaking of?
Blessed be
Rikki
have you ever heard of john keel and jacques vallee?, if not, then ask your husband, he definitely knows them
basically i believe that there is a misterious entity behind all paranormal and fortean phenomena, this entity has the power to bend reality for it's own amusement, something it does a lot.
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
the word Anunnaki means Giant or "fallen" many thing its a race of giants or angels.
so in this context what definition are you using?
Blessed be
Rikki
they are talking about the false speculations that zecharia sitchin had about them being aliens from the planet nibiru
 

Rikki

High Priestess
have you ever heard of john keel and jacques vallee?, if not, then ask your husband, he definitely knows them
basically i believe that there is a misterious entity behind all paranormal and fortean phenomena, this entity has the power to bend reality for it's own amusement, something it does a lot.

I wall ask Bob thanks. I know one of them is into UFOs.
 

ChrisIB

Honorable
you know that all this nonsense started when zecharia sitchin (porpousefully) mis-translated cuneiform writings, right?
Yes, misinterpretation, deliberate or otherwise, is the bane of ufology.
But there are over 40000 Cuneiform tablets, most sat in museums, untranslated. As more are transcribed the picture will hopefully become sharper.

Another aspect to the ancient alien thing is linguistic subtleties. Words using the Latin alphabet, typically they have one or two meanings. With Chinese Mandarin, characters usually have four to six. With Egyptian hieroglyphs, as an unpointed language, there is again more room for interpretation.

Broadly, which areas of the ancient alien paradigm does your research favour? and which others do you dismiss?
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
Yes, misinterpretation, deliberate or otherwise, is the bane of ufology.
yes sadly ufology has since the start been infiltrated by money thirsty idiots
But there are over 40000 Cuneiform tablets, most sat in museums, untranslated. As more are transcribed the picture will hopefully become sharper.
i ain't saying the sumerians din't have encounters with unexplained beings, all civilizations had, including the current one
just that sitchin's interpretation is a bad one
Broadly, which areas of the ancient alien paradigm does your research favour? and which others do you dismiss?
i actually think that its more plausible that in the past there was a civilization with technology similar to the modern one, the pyramids and the sphynx for example, predate the egyptians by hundreds of years, they just found them and like us, found them weird and mystifying
 

ChrisIB

Honorable
I missed a nought off, it's 400000 cuneiform tablets. Strange that the prospect of a single dead sea scroll gets headlines but hundreds of thousands of untranslated tablets just sit there (one museum alone has 130000).

i actually think that its more plausible that in the past there was a civilization with technology similar to the modern one, the pyramids and the sphynx for example, predate the egyptians by hundreds of years, they just found them and like us, found them weird and mystifying
Given the time scales, perhaps both AA and previous native scientific cultures. Perhaps there was interaction.
I hope the ancient alien theory will garner more attention once methods are found for locating any artifacts.

Some visitors may have stayed for some time, especially given the variety of life here or the resource cost of interstellar travel is significant.
The reason we are not often visited may be the simply financial.
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
Given the time scales, perhaps both AA and previous native scientific cultures. Perhaps there was interaction.
I hope the ancient alien theory will garner more attention once methods are found for locating any artifacts.
one of the best youtube channels about this subject is this one: newearth
she does some new age BS once in a while but otherwise her research is top notch and way better than anything tsoukaulos or eric von daniken has done
 

Cosmic Cat

Honorable
yes sadly ufology has since the start been infiltrated by money thirsty idiots

i ain't saying the sumerians din't have encounters with unexplained beings, all civilizations had, including the current one
just that sitchin's interpretation is a bad one

i actually think that its more plausible that in the past there was a civilization with technology similar to the modern one, the pyramids and the sphynx for example, predate the egyptians by hundreds of years, they just found them and like us, found them weird and mystifying

just that sitchin's interpretation is a bad one

I agree...That and I only watch Ancient Aliens when I need a good laugh....
 
The Anunnaki stationed on the space platforms needed rest, on land, from the weightlessness.
Interesting that an interstellar culture did not have artificial gravity. Is that consistent from a scientific perspective? Perhaps the technology does not scale or requires significant energy.
If general, it might take the shine off travel to the stars.

Hello, I'm new here, but I am actually a translator of ancient Sumerian texts. I thought I might share a chapter from a book that I am working on, so that you can see some of the ways that the PTB have confused us about the Annunaki and their history.

What were the Annunaki and the Igigi?


In an earlier chapter we covered the terms Nephilim and Watchers, and examined their traditional meanings of extraterrestrial leaders who came down to earth to create hybrid children. We also found that there are hidden meanings that provide us with so much more of the story. We need to examine the themes from the Sumerian epics of the Annunaki and their underlings, the Igigig, in order to complete our understanding of their connection, if any, to the biblical Watchers.

On quite a few websites you will find the terms Igigig and Watchers connected as if they were somehow cognate terms for the same beings. Actually, the only connection that I can discover is that the Hebrews very probably borrowed the original ideas for their Nephilim and Watchers from the Sumerian scribes. Luckily this does not matter to us, as it gave the Hebrew bible authors the opportunity to provide us with the hidden understandings for these terms. However, there is some information to be found by simply examining the words ourselves, and placing a meaning for them that is not connected to the biased translations of our scholars.

The Igigi are said to be the group of sky-gods that rebelled against the harsh rule of Lord Enlil, and showed their displeasure at having to toil on his irrigation channels by setting their work tools on fire while surrounding Enlil's house one night.

Our Sumerian language scholars tell us that Igigi, sometimes spelled as Igigu, are simply sky-god underlings. They also attempt to convince us that the Sumerian logographic equivalent of the term is nun-gal-e-ne, with a meaning of "the great princes/soverigns." What they do not bother to provide us with, is any alternative translations for these same words. However I will do just that. Using the Sumerian dictionary, without changing a single character of either word, we can easily discover some interesting alternative meanings.

I have seen articles on websites that explain the "igi" as meaning "eye," with the "gi" as meaning "to deflower." This is simply incorrect. By looking in the Sumerian dictionary we can easily determine that the word in Sumerian that means "to deflower" is "a-gi," and not "gi." So what is the correct definition?

The first part of the word, Igi, has the traditional meaning of "eye or face." The characters "gi" mean "to kill, judgement." Using their own alternate spelling of "gu" we see that it means "force." Our scholars do not bother to tell us that the words Igigi and Igigu also mean "a watchful force, or eye of judgement, or watchful eye of death." All of these results are straight from their own dictionary, and can be easily confirmed in a few minutes. I do not intend to offer any "interpreted" meanings here; my idea is to show you the alternative meanings that are found inside of their own publications.

If we split the word differently, as we are allowed to do because it is a noun, and since the scholars have no intention of splitting something in order to provide a meaning contrary to the traditionally accepted one, we find yet another meaning. "I = to remove, take away, to bring out," and "gi = kill, judgement," with "gu = force." A killing force used to take away the population? Suddenly we are finding that the Igigi, rather than simply being the subordinates of the Annunaki, represent the forces that are called out when the humans need to be taught a lesson or kept in line, even if it kills them.

Looking in our Sumerian dictionary, published by the top scholars in the field, we find that nun-gal-e-ne has a quite different meaning as well. "Nun = metal object," with "gal = big, great," and "e = socket or tube," with "ne = strength or force." Our new translation of "a big metal socket (disk-shaped) object that represents force," is not quite the same as theirs of "great princes," but equally as accurate. It really just depends upon your interpretation of the words, and obviously theirs has the agenda of keeping us in the dark and following the script that we are assigned by them. Please review my work in the Sumerian dictionary and you will be able to easily confirm that my translation is every bit as correct as theirs.

When the Hebrew bible authors copied portions of the Sumerian epic tales for their bible verses about the Watchers and the Nephilim, obviously they hid meanings for us that were very similar to the correct understanding of the Sumerian word for Igigi or Nun-Gal-E-Ne, as we have seen above.

The Igigi were said to number 300, according to the Sumerian epic "Enuma Elish," and in the biblical verses the Watchers were supposedly a group of 200. In both cases they represent the subgroup under the command of the Annunaki or sky-gods. Was the reduction in their numbers from 300 to 200 simply a result of the thousand years time that passed between the cuneiform writing and the Hebrew biblical tale? Could the extraterrestrials have lost as much as 100 of their ships during that time, or did they simply not find it necessary to deploy as many?

The traditional translation for the word Annunaki also falls short of the true and complete story. This is done by using one of two methods: first they often spell it without the ki on the end, or they change the ki to ke, without explaination. (Although misspelling the suffix does lend support to their version.) The second way is by changing the word to read "anunaki" which completely ignores the first syllables of an-nun. The meaning that they provide for us, "the gods as a whole," is therefore born of deception.

The Annunaki are the senior sky-gods, said to be a group of seven, and they form a type of council of gods that makes decisions over the Igigi enforcers. Only when the Igigi revolt from their hard labors is humankind created as a substitute or slave labor force.

We are told that the Annunaki are the "children of An and Ki," or the children of the supreme sky-god An, and the earth. This not only makes no sense, because Enlil, and not An, was responsible for the creation of mankind, but it also flies in the face of their own explaination that the Anunnaki are the seven sky-god council leaders, and thus in no way are they connected with the planet earth. They had the Igigi to do their dirty work in enforcing the human populatons.

Let's examine both spellings of Annunaki and Anunaki, and see what the Sumerian dictionary provides for us as their correct meanings. "An = sky or heaven," and "Nun = metal object or combat," with "a = strength or power," and "ki = the earth." This seems to tell us of a metal object from the sky, with power over the earth. And "a = wing," with "nu = night bird," and "na = man," with "ki = down below." Or a winged night bird above mankind down below. Which is a fairly good descrition of a mother ship that circled the earth, that was home to the sky-god council known as the Annunaki. But our scholars never mentioned either of these alternative meanings in their literature. And why not? Because the majority of them do not and never have, given any serious credence to the existence of extraterrestrials during the days of the Sumerians and the biblical period. By providing us with "their" definitions for these terms, we see that open-minded and scientific research was not very evident.

Whenever you run across a noun or other word in the Sumerian language, be sure to do your own research to confirm the proper definition of the term, without having to depend upon the work of others, no matter how many initials they have after their name. Scientists tend to apply a meaning that fits their preconceived ideas, and are not shy about editing, modifying or discarding any proofs that point to a position contrary to theirs.
 

Toroid

Founding Member
Hello, I'm new here, but I am actually a translator of ancient Sumerian texts. I thought I might share a chapter from a book that I am working on, so that you can see some of the ways that the PTB have confused us about the Annunaki and their history.

What were the Annunaki and the Igigi?


In an earlier chapter we covered the terms Nephilim and Watchers, and examined their traditional meanings of extraterrestrial leaders who came down to earth to create hybrid children. We also found that there are hidden meanings that provide us with so much more of the story. We need to examine the themes from the Sumerian epics of the Annunaki and their underlings, the Igigig, in order to complete our understanding of their connection, if any, to the biblical Watchers.

On quite a few websites you will find the terms Igigig and Watchers connected as if they were somehow cognate terms for the same beings. Actually, the only connection that I can discover is that the Hebrews very probably borrowed the original ideas for their Nephilim and Watchers from the Sumerian scribes. Luckily this does not matter to us, as it gave the Hebrew bible authors the opportunity to provide us with the hidden understandings for these terms. However, there is some information to be found by simply examining the words ourselves, and placing a meaning for them that is not connected to the biased translations of our scholars.

The Igigi are said to be the group of sky-gods that rebelled against the harsh rule of Lord Enlil, and showed their displeasure at having to toil on his irrigation channels by setting their work tools on fire while surrounding Enlil's house one night.

Our Sumerian language scholars tell us that Igigi, sometimes spelled as Igigu, are simply sky-god underlings. They also attempt to convince us that the Sumerian logographic equivalent of the term is nun-gal-e-ne, with a meaning of "the great princes/soverigns." What they do not bother to provide us with, is any alternative translations for these same words. However I will do just that. Using the Sumerian dictionary, without changing a single character of either word, we can easily discover some interesting alternative meanings.

I have seen articles on websites that explain the "igi" as meaning "eye," with the "gi" as meaning "to deflower." This is simply incorrect. By looking in the Sumerian dictionary we can easily determine that the word in Sumerian that means "to deflower" is "a-gi," and not "gi." So what is the correct definition?

The first part of the word, Igi, has the traditional meaning of "eye or face." The characters "gi" mean "to kill, judgement." Using their own alternate spelling of "gu" we see that it means "force." Our scholars do not bother to tell us that the words Igigi and Igigu also mean "a watchful force, or eye of judgement, or watchful eye of death." All of these results are straight from their own dictionary, and can be easily confirmed in a few minutes. I do not intend to offer any "interpreted" meanings here; my idea is to show you the alternative meanings that are found inside of their own publications.

If we split the word differently, as we are allowed to do because it is a noun, and since the scholars have no intention of splitting something in order to provide a meaning contrary to the traditionally accepted one, we find yet another meaning. "I = to remove, take away, to bring out," and "gi = kill, judgement," with "gu = force." A killing force used to take away the population? Suddenly we are finding that the Igigi, rather than simply being the subordinates of the Annunaki, represent the forces that are called out when the humans need to be taught a lesson or kept in line, even if it kills them.

Looking in our Sumerian dictionary, published by the top scholars in the field, we find that nun-gal-e-ne has a quite different meaning as well. "Nun = metal object," with "gal = big, great," and "e = socket or tube," with "ne = strength or force." Our new translation of "a big metal socket (disk-shaped) object that represents force," is not quite the same as theirs of "great princes," but equally as accurate. It really just depends upon your interpretation of the words, and obviously theirs has the agenda of keeping us in the dark and following the script that we are assigned by them. Please review my work in the Sumerian dictionary and you will be able to easily confirm that my translation is every bit as correct as theirs.

When the Hebrew bible authors copied portions of the Sumerian epic tales for their bible verses about the Watchers and the Nephilim, obviously they hid meanings for us that were very similar to the correct understanding of the Sumerian word for Igigi or Nun-Gal-E-Ne, as we have seen above.

The Igigi were said to number 300, according to the Sumerian epic "Enuma Elish," and in the biblical verses the Watchers were supposedly a group of 200. In both cases they represent the subgroup under the command of the Annunaki or sky-gods. Was the reduction in their numbers from 300 to 200 simply a result of the thousand years time that passed between the cuneiform writing and the Hebrew biblical tale? Could the extraterrestrials have lost as much as 100 of their ships during that time, or did they simply not find it necessary to deploy as many?

The traditional translation for the word Annunaki also falls short of the true and complete story. This is done by using one of two methods: first they often spell it without the ki on the end, or they change the ki to ke, without explaination. (Although misspelling the suffix does lend support to their version.) The second way is by changing the word to read "anunaki" which completely ignores the first syllables of an-nun. The meaning that they provide for us, "the gods as a whole," is therefore born of deception.

The Annunaki are the senior sky-gods, said to be a group of seven, and they form a type of council of gods that makes decisions over the Igigi enforcers. Only when the Igigi revolt from their hard labors is humankind created as a substitute or slave labor force.

We are told that the Annunaki are the "children of An and Ki," or the children of the supreme sky-god An, and the earth. This not only makes no sense, because Enlil, and not An, was responsible for the creation of mankind, but it also flies in the face of their own explaination that the Anunnaki are the seven sky-god council leaders, and thus in no way are they connected with the planet earth. They had the Igigi to do their dirty work in enforcing the human populatons.

Let's examine both spellings of Annunaki and Anunaki, and see what the Sumerian dictionary provides for us as their correct meanings. "An = sky or heaven," and "Nun = metal object or combat," with "a = strength or power," and "ki = the earth." This seems to tell us of a metal object from the sky, with power over the earth. And "a = wing," with "nu = night bird," and "na = man," with "ki = down below." Or a winged night bird above mankind down below. Which is a fairly good descrition of a mother ship that circled the earth, that was home to the sky-god council known as the Annunaki. But our scholars never mentioned either of these alternative meanings in their literature. And why not? Because the majority of them do not and never have, given any serious credence to the existence of extraterrestrials during the days of the Sumerians and the biblical period. By providing us with "their" definitions for these terms, we see that open-minded and scientific research was not very evident.

Whenever you run across a noun or other word in the Sumerian language, be sure to do your own research to confirm the proper definition of the term, without having to depend upon the work of others, no matter how many initials they have after their name. Scientists tend to apply a meaning that fits their preconceived ideas, and are not shy about editing, modifying or discarding any proofs that point to a position contrary to theirs.
What happened to the Igigi after they revolted? Aren't the Annunaki really Nibiruans?
The Internet Anagram Server : Anagrams for: nungalene
nun-gal-e-ne is an anagram for annul gene.

Annul means to make void or null; abolish; cancel; invalidate
 
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