The disappearance of Alien Hub without explanation

Discussion in 'End Times & Conspiracies' started by AlienView, Aug 20, 2017.

  1. AlienView

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    Someone should bring this up - And until there is an explanation - I put it into the realm of conspiracy.

    So far all moderators from that forum say they were just as surprised as the rest of us - Had no idea the forum was about to close - And close with no explanation.

    If Q was going to close the forum you would think he would have notified us in advance?

    Did something happen to him? Is there foul play involved? Almost any crazy idea could make sense at this point. - He was abducted by aliens ? :cool:

    Of course the logical conspiracy, if there is one - He closes the forum - waits for people to really miss it and then comes back up asking for donations - But he's waited too long - This forum may become popular fast and ,,,,,,,
    And the demand for yesterday's aliens is not as interesting in the new wave of aliens to come.......

    -AlienView {formerly alienview-tao on AH}
     
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  2. Merle

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    From my perspective, being a long time Mod on both Alien UFOs and then Alien Hub when the two forums were merged as one forum by Q, it doesn't surprise me he did it the way he did. I saw Q as being a private person and though he had us Mods in his Facebook as Friends, he also, when he took Alien Hub down, unfriended all us Mods from his Facebook it seems. He liked to know who his Mods were and I figured found out my 'real name' through an Alien UFOs Tshirt I bought from him when he was selling them years ago.

    I had absolutely no idea this was coming and hadn't logged into Alien Hub for quite a number of weeks anyway... He didn't seem to have a specific interest in the Alien and UFO or Paranormal topic and I think initially (I could be wrong about this) bought Alien UFOS and Alien Hub as an extra business venture and if you have a business which ends up failing, as it seems Alien Hub might have ended up as, it's no skin off a business person's to have one section of their business run as a loss because they can offset that financial loss against the profits they make against their more successful businesses when it comes to tax purposes.

    So I figured time for me to move on... I was pretty happy to see some of the the crappier stuff I had posted over the years gone from public forum view (though it probably sits somewhere lost within the vast internet space floating around).... I have no intention of contacting Q if I could and ask why, because I respect his privacy and figure he has reasons why and doesn't owe me or anyone else an explanation unless he chooses to do so... could be anything really, financial, personal tragedy or some other similar reason...
     
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  3. FFH

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    He would have warned us. I think he was told to shut the forum down because it contained real info which shouldn't have been there for the public.
     
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  4. AlienView

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    You would think something is fishy {or should I think alien, as in concealed and unknown}?

    Of course Merle might be right - There could be a simple mundane answer. Before he posted the "Alien Hub
    is gone forever" statement you see when you search for the forum - he had posted somrething about
    "the queen is dead" with a weird cryptical statement to go along with it - Death in the family maybe?

    OK, if that is the case, privagte person or not, you would think he will eventually issue a statement explaining what happened, here and/or elsewhere - Time will tell.

    But if your like me you love a good conspiracy story even it eventually turns out to be nothing more than inaginary.

    So try this: In spite of appearances Q was always a solid fan/student of the Alien/UFO phenomena and that is why he bought the forum. [Seriousluy, I kept wondering how AH functioned without ever seeming to have a
    profit/business angle and speculated what I just said - The owner was a true believer and hosted the forum for his own enlightment and interest}.........

    Now the conspiracy theory - Q obtained info, possibley from direct alien contact {maybe an abduction or channeled experience - And it blew his mind {any of you who have experienced either an abduction or even
    the kinder and gentler alien channeled experience, know what I'm talking about; but over time you can rationalize out and convince yourself that it wia just your imagination playing tricks with your psyche}

    In Q's case it may have been more than he could handle - And some of you former moderators might want to contact him in a sort of friendly way and ask if everyting is allright?

    After all many of us did have enlightment and fun on AH while it lasted.

    In the meantime this forum does stand a good chance of becoming the replacement and if Q comes back down to Earth, maybe he can form a deal with Nivek to give {or sell at a reasonable price} the complete data base
    - Much of that date is worth preserving.

    -AlienView {formerly alienview-tao}
     
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  5. Kilburn

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    Something fishy's going on. LETA offered Q his asking price of $6000 and he never got back to her. I'm kind of glad, to be honest. If LETA manages to get Alienhub in the end, I won't be going back there.
    But what that tells us, is it may not be about money.
     
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  6. Merle

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    Alien Hub was up for Sale (no secret, was viewable publically), for $6000 for a number of months and only went off the market not that long before Q closed it. I would think that if anyone was truely interested in purchasing the forum they would have offered the asking price when it was up for Sale rather than be waiting until the forum closed down and then email an Admin on a now defunct non working forum...

    You wouldn't know if the email or any other emails sent to the Alien Hub Admin (even to one of their private email accounts) have been read unless there has been a reply back to you..... The forum domain names, alien-ufos.com and alienhub.com are locked down and taken to at least about 2020.

    Same here, if perchance Alien Hub was again, I wouldn't bother rejoining either... I've already moved on... The Internet Forum World and Social Media World with places like Facebook, Twitter is a fickle world where people quickly move on into new territory when things go astray...

    (Now to sit back have a coffee and a bit of a think before I tackle Alien View's latest interesting conspiracy post)..
     
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  7. Merle

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    Maybe... but there was nothing 'top secret' posted on Alien Hub Forum which wasn't one way or another available on any other Alien and UFO Forum or Internet Website and they are still around easy to find....
     
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  8. Kilburn

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    Maybe Q's just sick of it all and wants a clean break.
     
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  9. SOUL-DRIFTER

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    I was getting the impression he was getting fed up with things.
    It was not selling, people grumbling about some of the things he did, and also he had a few chats he seemed upset about.
    My gut feeling says he just had enough and decided to shut it all down and walk away.
    There has been a few people that has offered to buy it. I believe he will not sell to anyone he did not approve of for whatever.

    I would buy it, except I just do not have the money to do so.
     
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  10. Merle

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    Could very well be that or have a gamut of other meanings - I could speculate about that, but truely, all it would end up is me making up even more Conspiracy theories which could be totally right off the mark and possibly create rumours which were totally untrue. I do realise that this being the internet anyone can fake it, but what I will say is, Q always gave me the underlying impression that he was proud of his family and cared deeply for them and that his family and his business ventures as well as his creative ventures were important to him...

    Not really... I can relate to that in a way of being private about certain issues and having no need to justify myself to anyone (including myself sometimes)... Once something is finished and gone it can be pointless to go back and backtrack trying to do a post mortem, explaining yourself to other people... Usually it's just better to leave things as they are and get on with life... (a bit of tao in action)...

    Sounds good... I'm all ears...

    Owhh geez, that's a bit rough on the imagination as far as Q is concerned..... lol..... when I read that I was having a coffee at the time and almost choked and splattered up the keyboard... Though I'll give it you AlienView, that theory is as good and as valid as any other theory can be if you have no idea as to why something happened...

    That wouldn't surprise me... like Soul Drifter alludes to in his post here, some of the complaints he would receive were quite mind boggling and from my point of view, as a Moderator, it all got too difficult for me to keep track of and I wasn't even at the other end of most of those complaints, some of which were quite nasty, like Q was....

    I won't be contacting him, he knows where he can contact some of us if he ever feels the need to explain as to why the sudden shut down. More than likely he's probably happy, elated, that the forum is no longer a sharp thorn in his back and is gone, out of his life. It was taking up way too much of his spare time, slowly eating into his family time as well as into his business and creative ventures...

    For sure... had some of my best, most interesting and enlightening moments too in Alien Hub (or Alien UFOs as I knew it best)...
     
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  11. FFH

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    It was a poem from Macbeth by Shakespeare.

    Macbeth - Wikipedia
    No Fear Shakespeare: Macbeth: Act 5, Scene 5, Page 2

    She should have died hereafter.
    There would have been a time for such a word.
    Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
    Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
    To the last syllable of recorded time,
    And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
    The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
    Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
    That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
    And then is heard no more. It is a tale
    Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
    Signifying nothing.

    Above the verse was "The queen, my lord, is dead" as the title of the page.
     
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  12. Dundee

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    I am torn here, I have known all you guys for a long time, I would die before I ever broke a confidence, or a trust. Those who have known me a long time, know this to be true. In my world, all that matters is integrity. To be corny, I almost follow the Knights code of chivalry. Sorry, sad but true. After all these years I have learned personal stuff about folks here, and about all that would make me break that trust would be a gun to one of my kids heads. If it was my head I would say, go ahead, I aint saying shit.
    You never have to say to me, "Don't tell anyone but........." because that is my default setting.
    I will tell you anything you ask about me, but the only secrets I keep are other peoples, without exception.

    So let me say this,
    LETA is not a bad person, I have a small insight into who she is. Deep down she has a heart of Gold,
    You just have to be patient and take the time to look.
    If I had to pick a song that describes here, it would be "Girls just want to have fun"
    She is receiving very bad advice from a couple of "F" Heads, and being swept along in the torrent of their intolerable stupidity.
    I wish her the best of luck, but If her forum falls over, I would like to think we would welcome "Her" here, but certainly not her idiotic advisers.
    Don't get me wrong, you would need a Star Trek containment field to control the havoc she would wreak, but she would be an asset here make no mistake.

    I only bring this up her because I have seen a bit of LETA bashing on and off and I don't like it any more than I would nivek or 22 bashing.



    [EDIT] Definitely not having a shot at you kilburn, I promise, we each have the right to our opinions. I am just a loyal friend to "ALL " I call friend. Cheers mate :)
     
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  13. Kilburn

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    She and I have nothing further to say to each other as far as I'm concerned. I'm always happy to be where she isn't. I bear her no malice but no love all the same. Like you say, we all have a right to our own opinions and I haven't forgotten that if you're human, you're supposed to be on the same side.
     
  14. Castle-Yankee54

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    I think you covered it quite well.....like Occums Razor says sometimes the simplest answer is correct.

    I think he just had enough and if he owned it he could close it and really didn't have to tell anyone.....though informing some might have been polite.
     
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  15. Dundee

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    I will be honest here, and I don't normally say bad things about people.
    But I always found Q to be, intolerant, abrasive, and opinionated.
    That's part of why I left some time back, it was because of him and that other nuff nuff he used to run it with.
    Having said that I appreciated the forum and the fact he provided it and I paid my subscription, and where possible I was supportive of him on principle. I was using a service he provided, that is important to remember.

    But it is no surprise that his arrogance just dumped over a decade of loyal folks and over a million posts without a word of explanation. I just hope that if it is ever owned by a new person they remember why it was a great place.
    And that was because of the history, and loyal folks like all of us that posted there through thick and thin.
    Q may have paid the bills, and I appreciate that. But AU, or AH, was great because of all of us, folks like nivek, 22, Dingo, castle, SD, even old Ben god shit on his head. :) And all of the other fantastic posters over the decade.
    It is all of us that made it great, not Q's checkbook.
     
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  16. Castle-Yankee54

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    I sat down and figured it out that of the million or so posts most of the old core accounted for close to 25% of that total.....SD and I had over 60,000 by ourselves.
     
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  17. Bluelight007

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    Thank you for this topic. I'll read all your versions later. What can I say! I am still heart broken, I am serious. First of all all the content is gone and there were amazing experiences there, I believed some of them as I think I have experienced paranormal activity myself, including an alien contact. It took time to start sharing my thoughts there. No one abused or trolled me, it's a rare thing nowadays cause there are so many trolls out there, waiting to hurt you when you are so vulnerable. I had friends: Kchoo and Xero. They were amazing guys, very intelligent and serious, they questioned my experiences but accepted them. ( I do not know if I ever talk to them again)Unfortunately I don't know any of you very well, but I would like to get acquainted as you all seem nice and friendly.
    As to Q... I spent last hours of the AU being there. I tried to open a chat room, seeing Q was there but saw an error notification . I thought it was a joke when I read the board was gone. I knew he offered AH members a special membership, so people paid money( I know he refunded), why create so many new cool things and then shut everything down without a single word? Just terrible!
     
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  18. Castle-Yankee54

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    Talk to nivek....he said the content it still out there.....but its for sale.
     
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  19. Bluelight007

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    Have your inbox messages been also deleted just like mine?
    I did not know that. Thank you
     
  20. nivek

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    What messages are you referring, from AH or here?....
     
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