The Divided State of Europe

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  1. pepe

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    The losers concent is where it's at or not.


     
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  2. nivek

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    Throwing a milkshake is no different than throwing a brick in my opinion...

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  4. pepe

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    She has been treated very nicely by being given the chance to jump before the push was about to happen. Nobody likes to see a dignified lady break down but can I get an amen.

    No deal is now a probability. No time, next one will surely be a none remainer and the EU won't budge an inch on the existing deal. The only chance would come from the fact that many refusing her deal were doing so for personal reasons by not going for anything she put forward.

    I sense a relief in the air even if it is having something else to focus on other than May's persistent attempt to push the same bad deal.

    Boris wiff waff Johnson I hope will come through.
     
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  5. nivek

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    She should have jumped last year, I won't miss her one bit, best thing to happen and should have happened sooner...She has lost the plot and knows not what is in Britain's best interest...

    I hear he is a 'friend' of Trump, might be a good thing...

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  6. pepe

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    In hindsight the fudging of our decision by those in the commons is ever more apparent. We are now alining in the correct fasion and will have the right people in place.

    Trump Johnson relationship is our best way and I hope people are seeing behind all the guffaw.

    I am exited for Nigel and the result tonight, Brussels I hope will now be ruing in some form for their despicable stance to a nation that has played such a part in history.

    Team USK.
     
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  7. nivek

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    Which one will make the best decision for Brexit?...Which one has the best interest of Britain in mind?...Boris or Nigel?...

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    I personally trust Nigel Farage more than Boris.

    Nearly all new Tory candidates have no deal back on the table. Now that is the lion leading the donkeys.

    I will vote for Nigel in everything possible and if somehow this translates in the a general election, then they will all shit themselves.

    But if there is no Nigel then I want Boris.
     
  9. pepe

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    Something very big could be happening here.
     
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    This kind of behaviour is one of the reasons why we are where we are.

    Gag reflex won't let them swallow it.

    I'm all for another referendum to force it down their necks.

    The remain candidates running in the race to be the next priminister plays like slapstick.
     
  11. pepe

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    What would be worse.

    No deal or Corbyn in number ten.
     
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  12. nivek

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    We are seeing this because of Muslim expansion and nothing else...

    Germany 1933 or Europe 2019? You Decide


    Are we seeing a repeat of Germany 1933?

    Jewish shop owners are hounded, threatened and run out of town. Their businesses are the targets of prolonged campaigns of intimidation, culminating in months of demonstrations at their doors with up to a thousand angry protesters at a time shooting red paint bombs and mutilated dolls at employees.

    Owners of these businesses threatened with death and (real) bombings. The threats including their families.

    Police refuse to step in, saying the protesters are behaving lawfully. In fact, a top politician supports and is listed as a patron of the organization behind the protests.

    Germany 1933? Or the UK in 2019? Actually both.

    Since we know how the Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses which began in 1933 ended, let’s talk about what’s happening in today’s UK.

    The Palestine Solidarity Campagin, of which Labour party head Jeremy Corbyn is a patron, has, in reality, been waging this campaign against Jewish businesses that sell Israeli products (both those originating from inside Israel proper as well as those made in the disputed territories) since 2001.

    They have not only targeted Jewish businesses but also the Israeli Philharmonic Orchestra at the Royal Albert Hall, an Israeli theater company at Shakespeare’s Globe and an Israeli LGBT event in London.

    The group is prominent in the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) Movement against Israel, which has been deemed anti-Semitic at its core by the U.S. State Department’s definition of anti-Semitism.

    Most recently, the group has forced shops selling Israeli cosmetics to close, like the one owned by UK citizen Nissan Ayalon, 33, who was forced to move his business three times, starting from scratch each time, before finally giving up and fleeing the country.

    “Eventually, I lost faith in being able to make a life once again in Britain,” Ayalon said in a newly-released film called Hounded, which documents the on-going campaign of intimidation of Jews who sell products from Israel. “I just couldn’t keep moving to a new city every two years. I had a family to look after.”

    The true litmus test of anti-Semitism is whether the actions are against Jews per se (biogtry) or simply making a political statement. The BDS movement holds Jews to a different standard than in similar conflicts worldwide. It is a clear case of anti-Semitism.

    Moreover, it is a known fact that while the movement has created little damage to Israel, the movement significantly harms the Palestinian people (another litmus test of its real raison d’etre: anti-Semitism).

    Businesses that are targeted in Israel and forced to close because of the movement are mainly located in the disputed territories, which are known for employing large numbers of Palestinians (and paying them at a higher rate than they would receive working for Palestinian companies.

    These jobs not only benefit the individuals themselves but also translate to more tax income for the Palestinian Authority – not to mention the good will and peace building atmosphere these companies have been known to create among their Jewish and Palestinian workers.

    But the story doesn’t end there (and if it did, it would be bad enough).

    Germany’s interior minister and the Berlin mayor allowed the annual pro-Iranian/pro-Hezbollah Al-Quds (Jerusalem) Day rally to take place in Berlin. The purpose of the rally is traditionally to call for the destruction of the Jewish state.

    The U.S. embassy in Germany tweeted, “Germany’s federal courts decided years ago that Hezbollah is a unified organization dedicated to the destruction of Israel. Symbols of Hezbollah are banned, why not the entire organization?”

    Ironically, just days after the rally, Angela Merkel, Germany’s leader, said, “There is to this day not a single synagogue, not a single daycare center for Jewish children, not a single school for Jewish children that does not need to be guarded by German policemen.”

    The rally also came on the heels of an unprecedented reportreleased by Germany’s domestic security agency about how anti-Semitism among the country’s Muslim population is a major problem in the country.

    Not only has Merkel and her interior minister blatantly refused to ban the internationally-recognized terror group Hezbollah dedicated to the destruction of Jews, they have refused to even entertain the question.

    Small wonder that every Jewish establishment in Germany needs police protection.

    And now, due to our ability to connect halfway across the world with a simply click of a button, this phenomena can be spread throughout the globe.

    In Australia, a Muslim doctor has been the target of an intimidating anti-Semitic campaign for working with a Jewish organization that helps sick Palestinian children obtain necessary and life-saving treatment in Israeli hospitals.

    Dr. Jamal Rifi is a prominent figure in Sydney’s Shiite Muslim community from Lebanon. He has been recognized for his work in preventing the radicalization of young Muslims by ISIS. Yet, Rifi is now considered an “enemy” by pro-Iranian and pro-Hezbollah activists in his community.

    He and his family have received death threats. He is afraid to go back to Lebanon to visit his mother for fear of being arrested and prosecuted by Lebanon’s Military Court.

    Yet, is Rifi’s situation that much different than Germany’s (current) government-sanctioned anti-Semitism?

    In 1933, Jewish businesses began to be targeted by Nazis. It was slow. In fact, the first boycott was a one-day affair. It progressed to a campaign of ever-increasing harassment until it culminated in systematic pillaging, forced transfer of ownership to Nazi Party activists, arrests and ultimately the murder of Jews who owned businesses (of which, in Berlin alone, there were 50,000).

    I am not one of those people who think Nazi Germany can happen again. Many would call me naïve; others might call me unwarrantedly optimistic. Perhaps they are right.

    But the world is different, certainly when it comes to what we are willing to tolerate and not.

    The problem with this equation is the fact that our “tolerance” has become a double-edged sword.

    In this case, we have extended our tolerance to Islamists, who, in the cases above, use Israel as the cover for their anti-Semitism. If anything is as dangerous in our time for Jews as it was in the 1930s in Germany, it is the pass Islamists are given when they play the Abdur-Rahman Muhammad, a former member of the International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT), a U.S. Muslim Brotherhood front, recalls being at a group meeting in the early 1990s where they came up with the idea to use “Islamophobia” as a political weapon. “This loathsome term is nothing more than a thought-terminating cliche conceived in the bowels of Muslim think tanks for the purpose of beating down critics,” he said." class="glossaryLink " target="_blank" style="box-sizing: border-box; transition: all 0.5s ease-in-out 0s; color: rgb(157, 29, 54); box-shadow: none; border-bottom: 1px dotted;">Islamophobia card.

    This is how our supreme value of “tolerance” has taken us off kilter.

    We have seen this in America in response to the blatant displays of anti-Semitism from Congresswomen Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib. They have been handed a free pass from their own Democrat party.

    If the Western world still has the will, they can call this out and stop it. If not, I will be changing my opinion. Because the one thing, unfortunately, that all those who exist on the extremes can agree on is hatred of Jews — historically and now.

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  13. nivek

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    Corbyn's bully boys: Trump supporter is viciously attacked and doused in milkshake by America-hating activists in London yelling 'Nazi scum' minutes after speech by left-wing UK opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn - but police watch and do NOTHING
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    Anti-Trump protesters viciously attacked a fan of the President with a milkshake in London today moments after Jeremy Corbyn's firebrand speech - and as organisers admitted the turnout fell well short of their hopes. In ugly scenes at Parliament Square, anti-Trump demonstrators chanted 'Nazi scum' at the man who insisted 'I'm here to stay' - before he was covered in a milkshake while a sole police officer tried to stop a brawl breaking out.

    Today's vicious attack happened after Mr Corbyn delivered a firebrand speech to anti-Trump protesters in the capital this afternoon - obliquely accusing the President of 'creating a sense of hate' and fostering racism. The President hit back at Labour's leader just minutes later and revealed he had refused to meet Mr Corbyn, called him a 'negative force' in politics and dismissed claims 250,000 people would protest against him as 'fake news'. One protest group, the Trump Babysitters, admitted only a few tens of thousands of protesters were involved in the demonstrations.


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  14. wwkirk

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  15. CasualBystander

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    Well...

    We know who the "NAZI Scum" really are and they outnumbered the Trump supporter.
     
  16. Dejan Corovic

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    Politics is really miserable thing.

    Although I am leaning towards the centre-left, people who are on the right should not be physically attacked because of their beliefs. Discuss than vote, there should never be violence.

    I really hated when that right wing guy, was his name Alex Jones, was banned from YT and FB. I don't agree one bit with him, but he has 100% to right to say what he thinks. Private companies should not have right to high jack constitution and censor democratic right for free speech.
     
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  17. CasualBystander

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    Yup.
     
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    This is scary but not unexpected these days, sad to say...ugh

    Italian Cops Raid Neo-Fascists And Find Air-To-Air Missile That France Had Sold To Qatar

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    Italian police have seized a French-made Matra Super 530F air-to-air missile in the course of raids to arrest multiple individuals allegedly linked to far-right extremist groups who had provided aid to groups fighting Russian-backed separatists in Ukraine. Authorities also uncovered a large cache of automatic rifles, submachine guns, and other small arms, as well as Nazi paraphernalia, during one of the arrests involving an individual linked to Italy's neo-fascist Forza Nuova political party.

    A regional special police force, also known by the Italian acronym DIGOS, in the Northern Italian city of Turin headed up the operation on July 15, 2019, but authorities in the cities of Milan, Varese, Forli, and Novara also took part. Police found the Matra missile, which is reportedly live, in a hangar at Forli airport. Fabio Del Bergiolo, one of three individuals that Italian authorities arrested, was a former customs official and had run for a seat in Italy's Senate as a member of Forza Nuova in 2001.

    Alessandro Monti, a Swiss national, runs the company that owns the hangar where the missile was located. There do not appear to be any additional details on Fabio Bernardi, another Italian, who was the third individuals swept up in the raids.

    Pictures and video that authorities released of the items seized show a wide array of contemporary and more dated European, American, and Eastern European small arms, including AK- and AR-15/M16-type rifles of unknown origins, Austrian and Czech submachine guns, and more. This is "a seizure with few precedents for the quality of the weapons and their violent potential," Turin Police Chief Giuseppe De Matteis said, according to Italian newspaper la Repubblica.




    But, by far, the most curious item was the Super 530F. Matra first introduced the medium-range, semi-active radar-seeking Super 530F in 1979 specifically for the Dassault Mirage F1 fighter jet. The missile was an evolution of the short-range R.530, which first entered French service in 1962 and used a mix of infrared and semi-active radar guidance.

    The missile's transit case has markings that say it was originally sold to Qatar as part of a contract signed in 1980. It's not clear when Matra manufactured this particular missile or where and how the arrested individuals acquired it.

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  19. Dejan Corovic

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    That is radar guided surface-to-air missile. It is completely useless without guidance by sophisticated electronic equipment from the ground. Only thing of value for terrorists is high yield explosive warhead that is full of ball bearings. Military grade explosives are many times stronger than what few 'enthusiasts' can make in a workshop.

    It's not ultra right wing that is big threat. They came and go and politics returns to balanced center-left vs center-right position. Bigger threat is than when you search Google for whatever cause you are supporting, you find only those sanctioned by private company. Than we are sleepwalking right into the Matrix made by Google & Facebook. I think that by law YouTube, Google, Facebook, Twitter and other can not close anybody's account without oversight of some sort of neutral government body.

    Or maybe it is a time to have search engine and social network funded by public money??
     
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    Its about damn time...

    Brexit Secretary signs order to scrap 1972 Brussels Act - ending all EU law in the UK
    The Government has signed into law legislation to repeal the Act of Parliament which set in stone Britain’s EU (EEC) membership in 1972.

    The 1972 Act is the vehicle that sees regulations flow into UK law directly from the EU’s lawmaking bodies in Brussels.

    The announcement of the Act’s repeal marks a historic step in returning lawmaking powers from Brussels to the UK. We are taking back control of our laws, as the public voted for in 2016.

    The repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 will take effect when Britain formally leaves the EU on October 31.

    Speaking after signing the legislation that will crystallise in law the upcoming repeal of the ECA, the Secretary of State for Exiting the EU Steve Barclay said:

    This is a clear signal to the people of this country that there is no turning back - we are leaving the EU as promised on October 31, whatever the circumstances - delivering on the instructions given to us in 2016.

    The votes of 17.4 million people deciding to leave the EU is the greatest democratic mandate ever given to any UK Government. Politicians cannot choose which public votes they wish to respect. Parliament has already voted to leave on 31 October. The signing of this legislation ensures that the EU Withdrawal Act will repeal the European Communities Act 1972 on exit day.

    The ECA saw countless EU regulations flowing directly into UK law for decades, and any government serious about leaving on October 31 should show their commitment to repealing it.

    That is what we are doing by setting in motion that repeal. This is a landmark moment in taking back control of our laws from Brussels.

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