The Divided State of Europe

Discussion in 'Present & Current Events' started by nivek, Oct 4, 2017.

  1. pepe

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    Sign of the times and the EU.

    Remember how the EU pointed the finger at Viktor Orban for firing tear gas at the migrants and pushing them back, why are they now backing Greece for doing the same thing with those coming through Turkey.
     
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  2. nivek

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    Seems almost like a little too late type of thing, a foothold situation has already occurred in many countries of Europe, now they have to watch their backs too, not just the front gates...

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  3. pepe

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    It annoys me to change the ethic after Merkel's open arms policy which then turned into free kitchens if they go home. It's gone I think, the globalists dream was taken too far and the recoil is on for years to come. The downfall of the EU I hope comes in time, not because of the want to destruct but because I want individual nation states to be free.
     
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  4. Sheltie

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    I am not very familiar with European politics but I watch Stuart Varney on the Fox Business Channel almost every day. He is a British expat who came to the US to become a journalist in the early 70's. He claims he left the UK out of disgust because it became a socialist state around that time.
     
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  5. nivek

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  6. pepe

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    This streamer makes me laugh a lot.


    Ash appears on the BBC predominantly and has gone to another level, one I think she needs a slap for, by another woman of course and preferably from a minority so she gets the message.

    Sickens me.
     
  7. nivek

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    Hundreds of Yellow Vest protestors clash on the streets of Paris in anti-government demonstration as they defy ban on street crowds due to the coronavirus pandemic

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    Violent anti-Government Yellow Vest protests continued in France today - despite a ban on street gatherings because of the killer coronavirus. A crowd estimated at around 800 gathered in central Paris to call for an end to President Emmanuel Macron's administration. By early afternoon fighting had broken out between elements of the crowd and CRS riot police, who fought back with tear gas and baton charges. 'There were 20 arrests for offences related to violent disorder,' said a spokesman the scene, in Boulevard Arago, close to Montparnasse station. It was the 70th Saturday in a row that the so-called Yellow Vests, who are named after their trademark fluorescent motoring jackets, have taken to the streets (pictured, protestors clashing with riot police).

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  8. wwkirk

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    Would it be wrong for me to wish illness upon them?
     
  9. nivek

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    EU clutches at bazooka to stop members going it alone on coronavirus

    BRUSSELS/LONDON (Reuters) - The European Union is considering the drastic step of suspending nearly all incoming travel to the 27-member bloc to combat not only the coronavirus but also the “every country for itself” ethos spreading rapidly through member states.

    The EU’s 27 leaders will hold a teleconference on Tuesday to discuss the proposal, which would cover 30 European countries — all EU member states except Ireland, plus the four non-EU countries that are part of the Schengen border-free zone.

    But at least eight EU states have already taken matters into their own hands, unilaterally shutting out foreign nationals or partially closing their borders to one or more neighboring country. They include the EU’s biggest state, founder-member Germany.

    Those decisions have left Schengen, a pillar of European free movement for 35 years, in tatters, for now at least.

    French President Emmanuel Macron, a passionate integrationist, on Monday condemned the closures after a phone briefing with German Chancellor Angela Merkel and other EU officials.

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  10. pigfarmer

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    they do like their protests, eh? here we do s**t like that after sporting events ....
     
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  11. pigfarmer

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    This is why they build ships and submarines with watertight compartments. Better to all drown with a clear conscience, right?
     
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  12. pepe

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    Very telling for the EU all this.

    It shows that crisis doesn't pull them together to act as one as they run back to fight the fire. Nigel said this will be their beginning of their end.

    Oversees donations and EU funding ? After all this bailing.

    Nigel might be right on this one too.
     
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    Yeah, these yellow vests had gone irrational. Now they are protesting for the sake of protesting.

    One more reason to replace all the politicians with AI. World would be such a beautiful place without politics.
     
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  14. nivek

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    Coronavirus: Is Europe losing Italy?
    Furious at their plight being ignored and over resistance to coronabonds, Italians’ sense of betrayal deepens

    A year ago Carlo Calenda ran in European parliamentary elections in Italy under the slogan “We are Europeans”, a rallying cry to defend his country’s place in the EU at a time of rising nationalism. Now even Mr Calenda, a 46-year-old former minister and Italian permanent representative to the EU, is experiencing a crisis of faith in an idea he has spent a lifetime fighting for.

    “This is an existential threat, I am not sure if we are going to make it,” he says. “You have to consider my party is one of the most pro-European parties in Italy and I now have members writing to me saying: ‘Why do we want to stay in the EU? It is useless.’” As Italy faces its most severe crisis since the second world war, with more than 15,000 deaths from coronavirus and its economy on course to suffer the deepest recession in its modern history, there is a rising feeling among even its pro-European elite that the country is being abandoned by its neighbours.


    “A massive, massive shift is happening in Italy. You have thousands of pro-Europeans moving to this position,” says Mr Calenda, who leads the recently formed liberal Action party. Last month Sergio Mattarella, Italy’s softly-spoken 78-year-old president, and the man its establishment has relied on to safeguard its constitution and international alliances, warned the future of Europe was at stake if its institutions did not show solidarity with their country. “I hope that everyone fully understands, before it is too late, the seriousness of the threat to Europe,” he said in an evening television address beamed into the homes of millions of Italians.

    Many in Rome now feel that unless bold action is taken by northern European countries, they risk Italy turning its back on the European project forever. There are already signs that Italian faith in the EU has been damaged. In a survey conducted last month by Tecnè, 67 per cent of respondents said they believed being part of the union was a disadvantage for their country, up from 47 per cent in November 2018. Donald Tusk, the former European Council president, told the FT the situation today was much more worrying than during the euro crisis — both politically and economically.

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  15. nivek

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    German minister: Coronavirus crisis won't make Brexit easier

    BERLIN (Reuters) - German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said the coronavirus crisis would not make Brexit negotiations easier, adding that Berlin would use its EU presidency in the second half of the year to ensure there is a “good result” for both the EU and Britain.

    “Whether I think the extension of Brexit negotiations and the deadlines there are until the end of the year is good or not is irrelevant - the British government rejects that and made that clear again last week. It certainly won’t be easier given the coronavirus crisis,” he told a news conference on Friday.


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