The Divided State of Europe

Discussion in 'Present & Current Events' started by nivek, Oct 4, 2017.

  1. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    I should add, the mess the world is in now is a failed experiment, they seriously do not know how bad this all is going to end...We don't need to go far right, just need to get back to center, level the playing field and clean up the backyards, this is what Trump is doing...

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  2. pepe

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    It was a calling yes, just like UKIP. Served a purpose for the nationals. Stealthy behaviour at the ballot box. Teflon's ears pricked up when the lone bagpiper struck up. Amazing grace. Lovely to see.

    One of my biggest wants in life is for four more years. I actually feel connected to him like no other here. Even Queenie.

    I envy you this man.
     
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  3. pepe

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    I'd like to see the world for once all standing hand in hand and hear them echo through the hills get off my bloody land.
     
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  4. nivek

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    I think all migrations need to stop and let each respective country get settled, people need to better their own countries and the west should help out but not by migration...Close all borders to illegal migration, it cannot continue anymore, it's going to end very bad if we do not stop mass migrations...

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  5. pepe

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    I think some can blend very well and that should be encouraged but to have distant cultures as a rule hasn't worked. I could blend with the French and yourselves with ease but would be lost in the Middle East or Africa, probably never to be seen again.

    Values go out the window over money and that is why they come. It will never end and that is why it will be stopped. Get enough of them and then they get their values out again. While soaking it all up.

    Can't blame them for doing what they have been allowed to do. Our governors are lead by the people so that puts the blame on us. But now we see with hindsight having it being so swift and vast.
     
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  6. Sheltie

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    I don't love or idolize Donald Trump. I just think that the US and Europe have become so screwed up that we need a bastard like him who can tell people what they need to be told without dancing around the issues. We need a businessman who can negotiate deals without flinching.

    Every time he announces new tariffs the stock market drops but, so far it has consistently bounced back. The Dow was up over 224 points today. Many of the tech stocks hit new records today. Trump is standing up to the Chinese.

    On a personal note, I would feel better if the US had a warm, friendly, liberal, charming President that everyone could admire but it just isn't practical these days. Trump is doing what needs to be done.
     
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  7. Gambeir

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    I'm 62 years old and have voted in every election since I was able to vote. I've voted left and right but so far I've never successfully voted for anyone I will openly confess to having ever supported, such is the record for each and every single one of them. I may be done voting since all it's accomplished is the looting of the public treasury, 7 dollar tax on a pack of cigs, 80% tax on booze, the double and then tripling on car tabs, compulsory auto insurance, aka welfare for bankers and insurance corporations, and then a million dead in other countries, red light camera crooks, and gee...what have I missed?

    Oh yea, this one...the complete and total corruption of the justice system such that it is now truly a justice system for criminals.
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  8. nivek

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    Trump tells Theresa May her soft Brexit plan will 'kill' any US trade deal after Britain leaves the EU, adds Boris will make a great PM and blames Sadiq Khan for terrorism in explosive start to UK visit

    President Donald Trump has warned Theresa May that her soft Brexit plan would 'kill the deal' between the US and Britain on trade, in an incendiary interview as his visit to Britain begins.

    He also said the prime minister has ignored his advice on Brexit negotiations, explaining: 'I would have done it differently'.

    The president also renewed his war of words with Sadiq Khan, saying the London mayor has 'done a very bad job on terrorism'.

    He said he thought that allowing 'millions and millions' of people into Europe was 'very sad' and pointed to crime being 'brought in' to London, criticising the Labour mayor for failing to deal with it.

    Europe, he added, is 'losing its culture' because of mass migration and warned it will never be the same again unless leaders act quickly.

    'Look around,' he said. 'You go through certain areas that didn’t exist ten or 15 years ago.' He added: 'Allowing the immigration to take place in Europe is a shame.'

    Theresa May presses Trump for a post-Brexit trade deal | Daily Mail Online
     
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  9. pepe

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    This is great news, I hope May goes over this as she doesn't fit the bill any longer. Although I like her as a person she doesn't want brexit and that is a real issue. Boris on the other hand is pro and should shuffle in to number 10. Things are lining up well. We are rock and hard placed with Europe and America, something has to give for the sake of our future. Very interesting day ahead.

    Just saw a Muslim cross dresser wearing knickers, green lipstick and long blonde wig speaking out against Trump on the BBC alongside an organiser of the protest who was Indian.

    Then the English guy called out the BBC for not reporting from where you will find more real English people, he was interrupted by the organiser who said don't confuse the issue.

    Can't get much more confused than big knickers standing next to him.

    London is not where our heart is any longer, it's a foreign land of all sorts with no identity.
     
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  10. CasualBystander

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    Well...

    The premise of progressives for globalism is that everyone is the same.

    All people are one species.

    So are all dogs.

    There is as much difference between the various groups of people as there is between dogs. Probably more because they have in many cases been separated longer.

    The progressives are effectively saying that a Rottweiler, a Beagle, and a Chihuahua have the same capabilities and same temperament.

    That is bullshit. Pure bullshit.
     
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  13. Ron67

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    I thought Trump becoming President would be comedy gold! However,he gets things done,he’s not a politician he’s a business man and that’s what he knows.I wouldn’t leave him alone with my wife or daughter but he’s not been anything like I expected him to be.Hilary would have been a disaster for world peace and the Dems made a massive mistake backing her.Sadly just like in the U.K.,the two main parties are tools of the rich elite.
     
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  14. Ron67

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    Corbyn is very bright but is stuck in the mind set of the old,old Labour Party.Also He has the presence and charisma of an odourless silent fart!
     
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    Huh ? b007

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  16. nivek

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    To me he's a hard man to understand sometimes, not his accent, but his viewpoints...

    My accent isn't southern although I was born in the south, but more of a western or westcoastal accent if I had to label it...I've traveled too much around north and south America to have a solid regional accent like many Americans have...

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  17. CasualBystander

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    An odorless silent fart is sort of useless.

    McDonald's "McNinja" burger did it right way, "Silent but deadly, Like a ninja!!!"
     
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  18. Gambeir

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    I think it's comical that people in other nations protest the American President, it's like WTF...Why? It' snot like we care or it's going to change anything. If it did half the US would have driven to Canada to protest the royals visiting. Again, would it have mattered? Who care's what Americans think of the Royals right? Same thing. It's just loony if you ask me.
     
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  19. pepe

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    I believe the reason why people have taken issue has many fronts in Donald's case.

    The present day witch hunt for the misogynistic among the famous has played a part. Men are sexist on the whole and that has been silenced. For every famous case exposed in recent times I wonder of the many unknown cases there must be.

    Race being another, I think we are understanding that we are not racist in the way the divide has promoted. People are racist by preferring their own which the liberal reads being anti the other. That is changing. We all suffer this condition as nature intended. To move forward things have to divide.

    If any one asked you if you would like to wake up and find half of your town or city to be half foreign and half national what would the answer be. My guess is no.

    As nivek said, a social experiment has failed, it's been running for many years and like anything with two sides, it will have a tipping point.

    Do you see it fair to judge using present day emotion an act that occurred when sentiment was different.
     
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  20. Gambeir

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    I agree with everything you've said and it was said brilliantly in truth.

    America has always been a nation with distinct borders determined by race and cultures. It's never been the melting pot. That's changed and is changing and will continue to change but it isn't going away any time soon. However, race and sex are two things and religion and politics are another.

    We can get around racial issues by means of sex, few people don't want to try that method at least once in their lives, but we can't get around mind control quite as easily, and that's all politics and religion really are; just forms of mind control.

    You cannot take a large group of people whose beliefs are so fundamentally different that an influx of them risks social chaos by placing them in direct contact ,and in large masses with others whose lives and history are native to those lands, and then expect assimilation by means of sexual stimulation which may later result in true feeling of affection when there is no shared commonality in spirit.

    This invasion in Europe isn't like people showing up on the door steps whom are going to abide by the laws and hope to be accepted. This is more like saying hey, let's import millions of Nazi's in to Israel and see how that works out; who then would expect that to turn out well?
     

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