The Divided State of Europe

nivek

As Above So Below
These mindless saps do not know what they are protesting...A few American reporters started asking people in these protest crowds what they hate about Trump, barely any of them could give a straight answer...pathetic to protest for the sake of, makes themselves look like mindless saps...

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Thousands turn out for 'Trump's a Chump' protests across Scotland as US President plays golf | Daily Mail Online

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nivek

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What a bright bunch here...:huh8:

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Captain Tinkle

Honorable
These mindless saps do not know what they are protesting...A few American reporters started asking people in these protest crowds what they hate about Trump, barely any of them could give a straight answer...pathetic to protest for the sake of, makes themselves look like mindless saps...

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Thousands turn out for 'Trump's a Chump' protests across Scotland as US President plays golf | Daily Mail Online

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I like to class these type of people as the liberal left wing snowflakes.

As you can clearly see by some of the pictures these are not "normal" everyday people. Case in point the lady (I presume) with the giant bow in her hair.

They think society owes them something and take offence at any comment or statement coming from Trump.

Now I agree they should be allowed to protest. Freedom of Speech and all that.

This is however a small majority. Namely those who are from London itself which is generally a left wing city as a whole.

Anywhere outside of London within the United Kingdom doesn't exsist to Londoners, apart from when they want to stay in their holiday homes on the coast. In my area people could not care less either way about Trump as he doesn't make any difference to our lives what so ever.

Most of the comments I have heard are that he is an "idiot" but he is a "clever idiot". Arguably I think that best sums him up. Some of the stuff he comes out with is complete idiocy (typical of any politician from any political party). However he is doing a generally good job of being President and has for the most part commited to what he has promised.

Again Trump did commit some faux pas when meeting the Queen such as turning his back on her but I am sure he had no intention of insulting her. I did find it amusing that the Queen told him off at one point. She is not a lady to mess with. I would argue that the Queen is probably the most powerful person in the World being the Head of State of 16 countries including the UK so Trump can certainly not afford to annoy her or face the falling out with the Commonwealth.

The press here are hanging him out to dry for offending us etc... Well I am not offended and I would presume anyone with half a brain would say the same.

The Mirror today was complaining about him sitting "smugly" in Winston Churchills chair. Trump admires Churchill from what I have read so I am not surprised. I myself would be quite "smug" if I got to sit in Winston Churchills chair! What a non story...
 

nivek

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The Mirror today was complaining about him sitting "smugly" in Winston Churchills chair. Trump admires Churchill from what I have read so I am not surprised. I myself would be quite "smug" if I got to sit in Winston Churchills chair! What a non story...

Haha the mirror loves drama and they will stir it up if it's not forthcoming lol...

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nivek

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Trump supporters turn out in London a day after protests

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LONDON – Thousands of Trump supporters and right-wing activists took to the nation’s capital on Saturday — a day after anti-Trump protesters had dominated the city.
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The speeches were a blend of support for Trump, Robinson and also concerns about the danger of mass migration and the importance of national sovereignty.

U.S. flags were again in abundance, as well as pro-Trump banners and placards reading "Britain Loves Trump."

“The rubbish that was spouted about Trump yesterday, it’s complete unjustified vitriol against him,” Robert Stevens, wearing a Trump T-shirt, told Fox News. “I’m not a massive Trump fan but the geezer in my opinion has done nothing wrong.”

He also rejected the idea that the majority of people at the protests were “far-right.”

“I don’t think we’re right wing, we certainly ain’t left but we just want what’s right and I think Tommy Robinson represents everything what’s right about just working class people speaking up to all the wrongs and that,” he said.

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Later, approximately 3,000 people turned out near Trafalgar Square to show their backing of Trump as well as jailed right-wing and anti-Islam activist Tommy Robinson.

“Oh Tommy Tommy, Tommy Tommy Tommy Tommy Robinson,” the football chant for the activist thundered throughout the event.

A number of right-wing groups were present at the march, including Generation Identity — which calls itself a “European patriotic youth movement” — as well as a number of right-wing Western politicians. Controversial Dutch MP Geert Wilders made an address by video, while Rep. Paul Gosar, R-Ariz., spoke about the importance of free speech.

The speeches were a blend of support for Trump, Robinson and also concerns about the danger of mass migration and the importance of national sovereignty.

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Across the other side of London, a pub in Hammersmith had renamed itself “The Trump Arms” for the presidential visit and was scheduled to hold an event Saturday evening featuring hot dogs, cocktails and other American treats.

Decorated with copious amounts of American flags, MAGA caps and a life-size cutout of President Trump, patrons told Fox News they had come out of their way to show support for Trump.

Mark Nicholas said he objected to the way Trump had been treated when he visited London.

“If the Queen was treated in America the same way, we’d be up in arms,” he said. I think whether you like him or don’t like him, he should be treated accordingly.”

Landlord (currently going by the title of “chief of staff”) Damien Smyth, said that it was London Mayor Sadiq Khan’s approval of the “Trump baby” balloon that made him take the leap into changing the name of the establishment.

“What an insult, not an insult to Trump because he’s a tough old dog, there’s no problem with him,” he said. "But it is an insult to the good decent American people who did vote for Mr. Trump.”

Smyth said that they were seeing a huge increase of people coming to the pub, and the reception had been overwhelmingly positive.

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CasualBystander

Celestial
I thought Trump becoming President would be comedy gold! However,he gets things done,he’s not a politician he’s a business man and that’s what he knows.I wouldn’t leave him alone with my wife or daughter but he’s not been anything like I expected him to be.Hilary would have been a disaster for world peace and the Dems made a massive mistake backing her.Sadly just like in the U.K.,the two main parties are tools of the rich elite.

Trump would be pretty safe around your wife and kids.

Clinton (the other one) is a different matter. The Secret Service view of the Clintons is the real comedy gold.

The uniformed Secret Service used to laugh when we did the "Cops Cheer" in front of the White House.

Then there is the old story about a poll run after Bush Sr's incident at the supermarket.

A 1000 people were polled "If Bush or Clinton stayed at your home for week do you think they would understand your circumstances?"

80% thought Bill Clinton would.

Only about 20% thought Bush would.

But almost none of the families with teenage daughters would let Clinton stay at their house.
 

pepe

Celestial
I agree with everything you've said and it was said brilliantly in truth.

America has always been a nation with distinct borders determined by race and cultures. It's never been the melting pot. That's changed and is changing and will continue to change but it isn't going away any time soon. However, race and sex are two things and religion and politics are another.

We can get around racial issues by means of sex, few people don't want to try that method at least once in their lives, but we can't get around mind control quite as easily, and that's all politics and religion really are; just forms of mind control.

You cannot take a large group of people whose beliefs are so fundamentally different that an influx of them risks social chaos by placing them in direct contact ,and in large masses with others whose lives and history are native to those lands, and then expect assimilation by means of sexual stimulation which may later result in true feeling of affection when there is no shared commonality in spirit.

This invasion in Europe isn't like people showing up on the door steps whom are going to abide by the laws and hope to be accepted. This is more like saying hey, let's import millions of Nazi's in to Israel and see how that works out; who then would expect that to turn out well?

Thanks for the kind words.

I didn't mentally view the States as having a divided sub States Of America but of course yes it's natural for things to settle that way. Obviously the same scenario of the have nots wanting some and the haves wanting to keep it just so.
Interracial intercourse will indeed make us one, given the time it needs. Seems to have a stagnancy about it though. I do have a nagging doubt that given the time, somewhere along the line, when on of the three's line is near diminished, nature would force something to keep it alive. That is speculative to say the least but it rings a bell.

Passing on a genetic line is more variable than I ever thought, it is possible to take on a maximum of about 30% of a grandparents ethnicity and a low of 0%, completely random. Feels to me that this margin of difference is where nature could select in order to preserve diversity.

With a limit to culture, an increase in numbers and seemingly endless time, it creates a sense that there is an end product. That strokes nature's cat from back to front.
 

nivek

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Migrants Storm Gates of Europe as Muslim Radicalism Spikes 900% in Sweden

Roughly 800 Africans stormed the border wall separating a Spanish enclave in Africa and Morocco last week. The migrants threw Molotov cocktails and feces at border guards and used lighters and aerosol cans to make flamethrowers. Once inside Spanish territory, they threw rocks at cars.

The European Union continues to try to force member states to take in the mostly Muslim migrants from Africa and the Middle East, but those who do now face soaring welfare costs, crime and terrorism.

The migrant issue has become a wedge dividing the European Union. The EU is still trying to punish nations who refuse to take Muslim refugees, but those who are – nations like Sweden – are paying a stiff price.

Most of the time Sweden looks like it's functioning normally, but intelligence reports indicate the nation is sitting on a ticking time bomb of Muslim terrorism. A new report says Muslim radicalism in Sweden has increased by 900%.

Swedish terrorism expert Magnus Norell at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy says the chickens have come home to roost on Sweden's open door immigration policy: "Our forecast is unless, unless we deal with this fairly soon, I mean head on, it’s gonna get from bad to worse I think."

A report last year said crime in Sweden was on par with Mexico. And a new study by the European think tank Gefira says the native white Swedish population will be a minority within a maximum of 40 years.

But rather than addressing the problem, Sweden continues to shoot the messenger. In the latest case, a dental hygienist reported to government authorities that the teeth of some of his migrant patients showed that they were not children as they had claimed, but adults. He was fired and fined over $50,000.

A recent debate on Britain's Channel Four underscores the EU's divide over migrants between politically correct Western Europe and nations like Poland and Hungary who do not accept Muslim migrants. When Channel Four's Cathy Newman asked Polish politician Dominik Tarczyński if he was proud of the fact Poland has been called racist for not taking in Muslim migrants, he answered defiantly, "If you are asking me about Muslim illegal immigration, not even one will come to Poland, not even one if he's illegal. This is why Poland is so safe. This is why we have not had even one terrorist attack."

The European Union says it will pay each of its member states 6,000 euros for every migrant they take in. It may sound like a lot of money, but considering the risk, it's still not enough.


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pepe

Celestial
I see our exit fee is being spent wisely.

We are doing a grand job of redefining racism.

I knew I wasn't one, then I became one and now I'm not one as I am the same as those who I know are not.

Gave me an identity crisis for real. Though I was wrong in some way. Evil if you like for feeling different toward another who is so obviously different.

class war is what it is, with colour and creed as a smoke screen. It's natural from all sides.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I think Poland's hard stance against this 'transplant' is because of Poland's close ties with the American Government...We are building a tight military and information connection with Poland and have been for many years...A lot of this isn't spoken about or revealed in the media either perhaps to keep from enraging Russia...

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pepe

Celestial
Harder form of preference in Poland and Hungary. Trend should say Germany but Hitler and Newton's every action law, twisted that one inside out.

I thank tectonic shifting for being an islander. Hugely.
 

Area201

cold fusion
I think Poland's hard stance against this 'transplant' is because of Poland's close ties with the American Government...We are building a tight military and information connection with Poland and have been for many years...A lot of this isn't spoken about or revealed in the media either perhaps to keep from enraging Russia...

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I'm heading to Poland for several weeks, get a better insight from the locals.
 

nivek

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I'm heading to Poland for several weeks, get a better insight from the locals.

Awesome, I have some friends in Augustow I have not talked to in a couple years...It would be great to get some feedback from the locals, hope you can post a follow-up here...:)

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pepe

Celestial
Migrants don't want to go to either country because they want to get to the Farterland and get a hug and some cash rather than a beating.

Both have a more devout Christian core that they just won't dilute and rightly so. Both also are down there in terms of wealth, less to go around means a sharper attitude to the stranger.

A question I have asked many a time with no takers.

A mass migration from Western Europe to the Middle East ?

What sort of picture are you seeing ?
 

pepe

Celestial
A mass migration from African nations to the Middle East ? Or vice versa. Smooth transition ?

Any European migration on a large scale to either region would be recognised as a crusade.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Meanwhile in Sweden...

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nivek

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Migrants don't want to go to either country because they want to get to the Farterland and get a hug and some cash rather than a beating.

Both have a more devout Christian core that they just won't dilute and rightly so. Both also are down there in terms of wealth, less to go around means a sharper attitude to the stranger.

A question I have asked many a time with no takers.

A mass migration from Western Europe to the Middle East ?

What sort of picture are you seeing ?

Any numbers on how many migrants cross into the UK?...Sweden hasn't been keeping good count and many have circumvented counting by sneaking in illegally, a problem we have here in the US with our massive borders...Our main problem though is the government of Mexico not taking proper responsibility for their own country and especially their own people, they could have such a prosperous country and a booming economy if they took responsibility...Many of the migrate are not Mexican though but passing through to the US, still though, if Mexico was on a good economic foundation, the rest of central America would follow...The same can be said for the African countries which many of the migrants into Europe and the UK are coming from...

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nivek

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Corbyn is very bright but is stuck in the mind set of the old,old Labour Party.Also He has the presence and charisma of an odourless silent fart!

My view of him, he's caught with his hands in the cookie jar often, meaning, he always seems to say the right thing and have the right idea, at first, but it turns out not to be so and in some cases seem to be outright lies, kind of like many American liberal politicians...Would I be close to right on this or am I not getting the full picture of him?...

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nivek

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That is the real reason for Brexit. Not racism but a fear of loss of sovereignty. Someone in Brussels or Berlin could write your policy and there isn't a damn thing you could do about it.

The meaning of the word racist is no longer the same. Used to be one who was active or at least vocal. Now it's about what is in the mind. If you don't want to be surrounded by foreigners there must be something wrong with you. The young are yet to find out and the elder already know. I am a racist by today's standards and Liberal by the old guard.

D. Davies has walked and he will be replaced by possibly a dual national I think. The Brexit is changing colour. Our sovereignty is only as good as it's people. Migrant and duals have far less interest in our Empire being great. We are too far gone and too polite to say it so I will, it's a mess because we can't be honest any longer, in time that becomes an accepted truth and it will step up another level where in time more acceptance will be pushed by the same fear. I remember an England with a very different feel and it was a nicer place to be.

I don't think the UK should have ever joined the EU to begin with, but I was never a fan of the EU in any way shape or form...It works for the United States because we started the country in this fashion, Europe was never in a Union as States and should never have been made into one, it is the source of all the problems Europe is currently facing...

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