The Existence Of God.

Discussion in 'Knowledge of the Spirit' started by Shadowprophet, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. Shadowprophet

    Shadowprophet Truthiness

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    I've tried this before, I'm not good at speaking about Things like God. I have beliefs in God, But I don't have the Will or the passion to Argue points with people, Ultimately anyone will believe what they choose to believe. I can make some promises, Here is an area Where What you think will be respected, I don't want to Argue the existence of God. I want to simply discuss the issues mostly to see where everyone stands on this.

    Firstly, People have a foul taste for the Word Religion, So I won't be using that word. I "Believe" In God. In my life in my spiritual path that I have walked, My belief in God has brought me much Peace and happiness.

    Now, Make no mistake, At this same instance, This is ShadowProphet saying this, So Before you come into the debate adversely. You will be dealing with a guy that has proven time and time again he is swinging a 167 I.Q. I don't say this to brag. I say this because Science doesn't have a definitive answer to the God Question, And with all 167 of those points, I am defending the fact that Science Not only doesn't disprove God, That in many cases, in factual scientific study, The only answer seems to be that Intelligent design may be a factual thing.

    firstly, Know that Our DNA is Coded, This can be proven.

    #Define Code:
    noun
    1. 1.
      a system of words, letters, figures, or other symbols substituted for other words, letters, etc., especially for the purposes of secrecy.
      "the Americans cracked their diplomatic code"
      synonyms: cipher, secret language, secret writing, set of symbols, key, hieroglyphics;
    There is a language, An authoritative structure to how we function, There is a written language to our DNA.

    Secondly, Human Beings are vastly different from any other life form we have ever encountered. And yes some animals are really really smart, "For an animal" But There is no humpback whale or Gorilla pondering the nature of the cosmos. We, humans, are so different from animals, We have our own descriptor that separates us from them. We are not animals. To add to this, We are not descended from any of the old files we unearth. Cromagnon man, Neanderthal, Those beings share genetic traits that we have, But they are not descended from them, This has been genetically proven.

    The Neanderthal DNA has been running through Chrisper and it found, No human DNA in the Neanderthal Gnome. Maybe A missing link is important, But, That link is still missing and we are not related to even the Homohabilis. We have no scientific missing links to refer to, We can't find where we humans came from. Science does not have an answer for that.

    And in the final phase of this opening post, Here is a webpage, Which can be sourced, No human DNA found in Neanderthal genome | Cosmos
    With peer-reviewed articles that support intelligent design. People believe themselves to be so sophisticated, swinging science around to bolster their views on creationism. But what many people don't realize is. The problem is, A lot of people Don't like the idea of the Christian God, You don't see people arguing the finer points of Hinduism or Buddhism, But when someone says Jesus, Everyone gets a little angry.

    I'm not here to fight and argue, I'm here laying down scientific facts even now. The scientific facts are, Science does not know if there is a god, But really very studied scientists, are open to intelligent design.

    I open the floor to anyone who wants' to talk about this. I reserve to right to ignore people who come in just looking to shit all over higher education, or higher spiritualism No time for those people, No one has. A well-balanced human has a proper balance between education and the spirit, Someone who thinks they know very much but doesn't know anything about spiritualism, Well those people don't really understand enough to hold a conversation like this.

    And that's not a slam, That's scholarly fact. If someone doesn't understand what spiritualism is, How can they advise about it?

    The floor is open.
     
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  2. Shadowprophet

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    I need to lay down, You guys know me, You can probably tell. I sense it.
    I think I'm on the verge of a flip. I hate it when those happen. I will be fine, And I will be calm tomorrow when I come back to discuss this more.

    Ultimately, I only want to dispell some myths.

    Myth 1, Believing in God is for people who believe in spaghetti men or unintelligent people.

    Many peer-reviewed physicists Such as Einstein were at the very least open to the idea of intelligent design. Who is quoted as saying " I am not an Atheist, I do not know if I can define myself as a Pantheist, The problem involved is too vast for men to answer."

    Myth 2, Science disproves the Existence of God,

    No, That's just something unstudied people like to repeat often from the echo chamber of ignorance and when I use the word Ignorance, I'm using the literal textbook definition of ignorance,

    To Ignore The information that is around them and refuses to study the very subjects they quote.

    Do you know why some of the most intelligent people on earth are so quiet? Because when people argue about things they don't even have a comprehension of it sounds like this.



    Goodnight, SP.
     
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  3. dlw

    dlw Saved by grace

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    True freedom.Skip the video to 26:40 The whole video is a good watch .Thanks SP
     
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  4. pigfarmer

    pigfarmer tall, thin, irritable

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    By nature I am secular, pragmatic and usually skeptical by default. That said I am perfectly open to ideas of Intelligent Design. Why not?

    I see God in the air we breathe, the sun and rain on my face and Everything Else - infinitesimally small or incomprehensibly great.

    Human hubris crafted God in his own image. It’s organized religion that I don’t care for, in general. I went to a neighbor’s funeral the other day. Finding solace in tradition and the notion that his existence continues is comforting. It’s when the priest got into specifics that I sat there thinking ‘who made this stuff UP??!’ If he had the decency to at least speak well I would have minded less. I was also underwhelmed to have the collection plate on the long pole stuffed in my fave. Twice.
     
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  5. Shadowprophet

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    My thing, I know what religion tells me I'm supposed to tell people about God. But I also never felt the urge ever once to tell other people that what they believe could be wrong. It's possible I was never meant to be a person who speaks about God.

    I have always felt, That a spiritual belief, If that person truly believes that thing, Then their whole personality and structure, Their foundation as a person is invested in that belief. When I debate Spirituality, I'm never trying to convert someone into believing. I'm only protecting everyone that has a spiritual belief, I would defend a Buddhist, or The Jewish, or even the church of the baked potato. Because What I'm really defending is not that other people should follow me.

    No, I'm defending only the heart of someone who fully invests into something.

    There was a guy once, He believed in some kind of, Joker or trickster God, And while I don't follow his belief. To him, It was God. So, I would defend him and his belief. But it wasn't to bolster that belief. It's because if someone really truly believes something and it makes them happy to believe that. I see people that try to take those beliefs away as a bully.

    I think this is the most in-depth explanation of my quirky views on spirituality I've ever shared.
     
  6. pepe

    pepe Noble

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    Humans have so much in common with other animals, physically and mentally.

    I would go as far as to say I am related to every life form around from human to the insect which I think could have been static at some point and sprouted limbs in order to prevail amid the chaos.

    Science disproves nothing as the God card trumps all, being of a singular and primary nature that too created the very tool used to disprove its existence. Science can only tell us how and no one has the answer to why or who. The issue with religion is that there is more than one and if there were to be only one then the depth in disbelief from the atheists would equate to the same oposing strengths of today's systems. Nature dictates that if the numbers aren't there then severity makes them up.

    Probably a good thing we have so many, it dilutes the power to where we can be civilised and accept easier.

    Safety in numbers.
     
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    I can't deny that in some ways humans and animals share a lot of qualities. Genetically we are vastly different, However, Life is as valid a red flag as any gene marker too. Those Animals live and share the same living environment for the most part as we do. Those facts cannot be underestimated.
     
  8. starsfall

    starsfall Believer

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    I agree with @pigfarmer for the most part - it's mainly organized religion I have issues with. My family is Catholic, I was baptised, I attended CCD in elementary school every single weekend for a year. I have no problem with people believing in anything they want, religiously or not, but it becomes a problem to me when they begin to push it on other people. I admit, I have been envious of people I know that have been able to rely on their faith in hard times, and to me that's a wonderful thing to be able to have. However, when it comes to religion I have been a skeptical person as far back as I can recall.

    It's awfully ignorant for anyone, in my opinion, to state that they know for a fact that God either does or does not exist...
     
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  9. Shadowprophet

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    I almost Never defend organized religion, The reason I can't is that, For as much as I profess a belief system, I never go to church. It's been literally over six years since I've been to a church and before that, I only went rarely.

    I honestly Haven't had enough experience in organized religion to really comment on it. to be honest.
     
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  10. starsfall

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    I can agree with that more openly, I have no issue with anyone who attends church or anything, nor was I implying you were defending/pushing organized religion on me or any others, I was just trying to push my opinion across... :Alien:
     
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