The Extradimensional Ultraterrestrial Hypothesis: Superstition Masquerading as Science

Discussion in 'UFOs & Sightings' started by Thomas R. Morrison, Sep 10, 2018.

  1. nivek

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    I think you're muddying the waters mixing paranormal with UFO sightings, these are two different things...

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  2. humanoidlord

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    i have grown up to hate the term paranormal, forteana is way better
     
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  3. nivek

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    Instead of calling it a pot of stew we now call it goulash?...:tongue8:

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  4. humanoidlord

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    paranormal, means that its something that isn't normal, giving it an anti-scientific air, forteana doesn't have that
     
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  5. wwkirk

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    My take on the term "fortean" is that it implies either unexplained or even just anomalous (meaning unusual or unexpected). It does not suggest that the phenomenon in question is either supernatural or definitely inexplicable by science. It may not have already been explained, but even if it has been, if it is strange enough, the term fortean could still be applicable.
     
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  6. humanoidlord

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    everthing that exists is science, even, ironically, magic
     
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  7. nivek

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    Someone once said, everything is material and can be weighted and measured once known and understood...

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  8. nivek

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    What's normal, really, what would be considered the criteria for something to be normal?...I think because something seems out of place, not 'normal' or paranormal it does not necessarily imply anti-science, science can still explain it and still be paranormal...Kind of in the same way the word supernatural, what would be the criteria for something to be natural, only after having that affirmation could (super)natural be defined...

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  9. Shadowprophet

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    Actually, Paranormal means, Science has no explanation for said event or phenomenon, It's an event that science can't explain, Right now, At this moment, Dark matter is a very paranormal thing because we can't explain it scientifically.
    I don't know why I said all of this, You guys know this, I think I'm just bored.

    Either way, Science ironically is about the most paranormal thing that exists. It literally sets the bar for what is and what isn't paranormal.
     
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  10. nivek

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    The Voronezh case is a very fascinating event, multiple types of aliens using various types of technology, I don't recall descriptions of aliens with any resemblance, these guys seem to be new visitors to our planet back in 1989...I was in the US Navy in 1989 lol...

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  12. nivek

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    This morning I read a comment on twitter that 'maybe paranormal events are because an advanced AI got bored so it decided to start messing with us'...This is such a ridiculous notion I'm sorry to say, just as bad as the cosmic tricker theory...

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  13. pigfarmer

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    I think the Cosmic Trickster is just a mirror
     
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  14. Spaceman spiff

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    If these sightings are planned and caused by aliens, im wondering whats the endgame for them, is there any or is it just for pure amusement or experimentation? Maybe when you become advanced enough, the best reality show for you is to find some planet and play with its primitive inhabitants?

    Is this maybe what humanity will be doing in a couple of million years, on another planet, using high tech to screw with the natives?
     
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  15. nivek

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    What if they're doing something completely different than we are perceiving, maybe some of the visitors are disregarding the humans of this planet, their interests are in something else (other than whales) and we are simply the bystanders, catching glimpses from the sidelines...

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  16. pigfarmer

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    Yelling at your fish bowl. Maybe we are only getting the bits and pieces of communication that our limited perspective allows.

    and now for


    EDIT: having just watched that clip again - isn't it pretty much representative of ufology as a whole?
     
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  17. Shadowprophet

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    Well, When it comes to deductive reasoning, We always try to apply psychology to the process, or even causality, Cause, and effect. I think reasoning like that, undersells the fact that they really are a completely different extraterrestrial life form. I've considered, They seem to show some kind of interest in our livestock, but ultimately. Breaking this down into particle physics. We have all these resources, which may be rare where they are from. But, We humans, Are chemical factories. Our bodies may produce some kind of Chemical agent, That they have taken interest in. My personal thoughts are, And I know this will sound weird, But, I think It's an Art of war thing. In the book, The art of war, One way to take over an enemy's numbers, would be to infiltrate them. To become one of them, and attack from within their ranks. Maybe, They are engineering themselves into our population?The reason I feel that any species from another world, Would be Invasive comes down to simple nature, Most usually if a bee from another hive shows up at the wrong hive, It's a foreign invader and is killed. This isn't prehistoric caveman thinking, This is nature at work. So, The actions of these guys, "They have been here, if they aren't here now" They didn't send us any kind of forwarning or any direct sign of their presence, Not in any open resolute manor.

    So we can deduce, Without any form of doubt that it is indeed an invasion scenario. I assume They are hybridizing themselves into our society, Perhaps, To invade us. Perhaps to take us over. But, If I was a betting man, I think they may be working on the logic of parasites. They lay the groundwork now, Hybridizing. and getting their genome all mixed up with ours right? So, Then they can just at a later time, Claim to have been our creators, And to some small extent, When they have infected us with their DNA, they wouldn't necessarily be lying about that.

    I dunno. It's a thought.
     
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  18. pigfarmer

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    Probably belongs in the reverse engineering thread - but what would a machine made by an octopus look like? Would we even recognize it?

    I still think the plain old nuts & bolts theory is probably correct - it is the most readily understandable and doesn't require as much speculation. Still needs a helluva a lot, but not as much as other ideas. Even at that we are by definition dealing with an extraterrestrial intelligence and TV has us too used to them wearing silly foam heads and speaking English and having human motivations.

    What decent space monster wouldn't want to come t Earth and wrap it's pincers around some human boobies?
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  19. Shadowprophet

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    Wholeheartedly agreed brother :p
     
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  20. nivek

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    Or for that matter, a reptilian machine, maybe also mantis technology, could we even recognize their tech if we happen chanced upon it?...Octopus nuts and bolts technology but so remotely foreign to us we would not know what it is, then add to that, what if tech from these creatures we millions or billions of years old...Technology beyond our comprehension, but still 'nuts and bolts', just in a way we cannot yet understand...

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