The Human-Bigfoot War of 1855

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  1. nivek

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    The Strange Case of the Human-Bigfoot War of 1855

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    In a very intriguing historical oddity there have been reports of an actual war between humans and Bigfoot, which seems to have been mostly forgotten, yet in some circles much talked about.

    If it sounds truly insane it is because it is. Let’s take a look.

    The very bizarre account begins in 1855, in the region of the present U.S. states of Oklahoma and Arkansas, where the once mighty Choctaw Nation of Native Americans once ruled over all they saw. In this year there was an apparent scourge of unseen bandits venturing forth from the wilderness to steal vegetables and even livestock. This might have been the end of it if it were not for the claim that the trespassers are said to have soon graduated to kidnapping people, mostly children, which provoked a fierce reaction in the tribe.

    A search party was allegedly formed, composed of a group of uncommonly large cavalry warriors called the “Lighthorsemen,” the largest of whom was the towering Hamas Tubbee and his six sons, who were widely reported as standing at around 7 feet or more in height.

    These real giants, along with a contingent of 30 other very large and fierce horseback riding warriors, headed out led by a part French, part Choctaw general by the name of Joshua LeFlore, and their mission was to find the culprits and put an end to their reign. As they headed out into the wilderness in the early morning hours from the tribal capital in Tuskaloma, fully armed with high powered rifles and pistols and thirsty for vengeance, these menacing, proud warriors no doubt thought that this would be a simple matter of routing some ragtag group of bandits, yet they were in for quite a bizarre surprise, to say the least.

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    Chocktaw warriors

    The group of warriors penetrated deep into the region which is now known as the “McCurtain County Wilderness Area” of present-day Oklahoma, and after 8 hours of riding nonstop through the blazing June sun they stopped at a spot near the Clover River to rest and eat, before remounting and continuing on the last leg of their tiring journey. It was after nearly 14 hours of almost nonstop riding that the men reached the area where the bandits were said to be most active, and it was here that LeFlore suddenly gave the order to halt, as if he has seen something that had caught his attention.

    Using a crude telescope, LeFlore peered off into the distance as the men rumbled amongst themselves and the horses huffed and chuffed. The general claimed that he could see something moving about ahead, and voiced his confidence that it was the enemy before putting the telescope aside and giving the warriors the order to charge.

    The massive, bloodthirsty warriors must have been quite a sight as they howled and rushed their horses through the trees in a mad dash into battle, weapons drawn and ready to fight. Yet their powerful drive forward was soon brought to a halt when the unbearably stench of decay hit them like a wall and their steeds began to inexplicably buck and rear in an abrupt, profound panic, knocking several of them to the mossy ground to writhe around hacking and coughing, such was the intensity of the supposed olfactory assault.

    Some of the warriors, including the Tubbees and LeFlore himself, were allegedly able to control their animals and advance past this nauseating wave of rotting stink to rush towards the bandits, and as they exploded out into a forest clearing the source of the stygian stench was clear. There in the center of the clearing they found what was described as some sort of earthen mound that had embedded within it and strewn about it numerous corpses in varying levels of decomposition, drawing a fog of flies that droned all about the startled warriors.

    Of human bandits there was no sign, but looming nearby were three enormous, ape-like creatures covered with hair, so tall as to dwarf even the most statuesque of the Tubbees themselves. These beast-men purportedly stood there glaring in their direction, completely unafraid of the tribal warriors.

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    What purportedly followed next is just as dramatic and over-the-top as any action movie. LeFlore is said to have charged the strange beasts without hesitation, pistol and saber in hand and howling the whole time.

    One of the creatures stepped forward and lashed out with a massive hand to swat the general’s horse to the side of its head with a thunderous blow that sent it sprawling to the ground dead.

    LeFlore was ejected to the ground but was soon on his feet with pistol blazing, managing to hit the wildman several times but barely slowing it down at all. Even after sustaining several gunshot wounds it barely bled at all, seemed to have not even felt it, and lunged forward to grab the man by the head and rip it clean off.

    All of this had happened before the others had even had any time to react, nor indeed even process the situation at all, and they had witnessed it in a wide-eyed stupor. Upon seeing their general slump to the ground without a head as this vicious ape-creature loomed over his carcass, they produced their rifles and launched a withering volley of bullets at the monsters, which managed to drop all but one of them. The grievously injured creature purportedly limped off in a bid to escape, but was set upon by one of the Tubbee brothers, who pounced and apparently cut its head off with his hunting knife.

    In the aftermath it was just a few scattered Native warriors, poised and ready for the next attack that would never come, the smell of gun smoke and that fetid stench of dead bodies, feces, and urine lingering all around them, in the background that Tubbee brother crouched over the hulking beast with blood on his knife and hands. The Natives then went about the grim work of burying the dead, finding the bodies of at least 19 children among them, and the bodies of the hulking beasts were burned on a bonfire.

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    It is without a doubt a harrowing, terrifying tale, filled with mysteries, monsters, and sheer, otherworldly bizarreness. The tale has been passed around the Internet quite a lot, it seems, and if it seems too good to be true then it may be because it perhaps is. The tales does indeed incorporate various historical facts, as LeFlore seems to have indeed been a real person who did die in 1855, and the Tubbees are apparently real as well, but this means little in the larger picture, as any historical figure can be inserted into any wild story you like, sort of like a fan fiction.

    Not helping matters is that, while the story has made the rounds on the Internet, the best source I can truly link it back to is a book with the rather unwieldy title of True Bigfoot Horror: The Apex Predator – Monster in the Woods: Cryptozoology: Terrifying, Violent, and True Encounters of Sasquatch Hunting People (Cryptozoology, Sasquatch, Paranormal) (Volume 1), by Jeremy Kelley, which seems to have just a collection of unconfirmed Bigfoot anecdotes, as well as reviews that are, well, shall we say, not kind.

    This is not to say it is all bunk, but there is also very little in the way of actual verification or corroboration of this amazing tale, and for all intents and purposes it may as well have come from the depths of the imagination. Nevertheless, from this source has sprung a persistent Bigfoot legend, all without any way to know just how believable it is, further cementing its power in the world of the weird.

    Is this a case of an urban legend in the making and a twisting of history, or is there something more to it?

    Whatever the case may be, it is a damn strange account.

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  2. SOUL-DRIFTER

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    Seems to me that one could speak with the Indian tribe that was involved to help verify the story.
     
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  3. Niku120

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    Awesome story dude I lean towards real.
     
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    Agreed, might give us the answers we readers need.
     
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    Brilliant!, and a well narrated story to boot.
     
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    brent swancer along with nick redfern are the two best writers at misterious universe
     
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    1. Bigfoot and Sasquatch: Facts and History
      1. As this story has been past around bandits have turned to man-beasts and man-beasts have turned to Bigfoot.
      2. The place where Joshua Le-Flore was killed means "looking for killers" in Choctaw.
      3. The giants from the story as told in Oklahoma and passed down for generations were white. Not hairy bi-pedal apes, but white.
      4. The original Oklahoma legend states that these "giants" were actually Viking descendants. And viking presence in the region can be historically traced back to the 1100s.
      5. The weapons being used are particularly interesting. Settlers favored muzzle loaders. That is a fact and any antique arms guru can attest to it.
      6. The "50-caliber Sharp's buffalo rifles" Which can only be assumed to be the famous buffalo hunting rifles came out in the 1870s. Years after this story.
      7. If the guns used were 50 caliber Sharps it seems unlikely Native Americans would posses them. After all the ingredients to make the bullets were not easily obtainable, the guns were only available through the army, and weapons trade at the time were selling out of date weapons to the Indians. The government at the time would not want to give their most prized weapons to Native Americans when there was a chance they could be used to kill settlers.

     
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    Very interesting, read. It's the first time I ever heard of this encounter.

    Thanks, Nivek.
     
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    Thanks!
     
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  11. nivek

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    I have some friends from a western tribe, Southern Paiute, I thought of asking them about any Sasquatch stories from the past they may know or heard of...

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    Great idea.
     
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    Fascinating story, even if not true.
     
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    I haven't heard of this one before, an alleged battle against "huge gorillas" on Mt. St. Helens in 1924...

    How a 1924 Bigfoot battle on Mt. St. Helens helped launch a legend: Throwback Thursday

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    A 1970s Bigfoot photo submitted to The Oregonian by a hiker. (Oregonian archive)

    What defines the Pacific Northwest in the popular imagination? Surely a mix of stereotypical images comes to the average American’s mind: serial killers and indie rockers, strong coffee and liberal politics.

    Then there’s the pièce de résistance: Bigfoot. Our famous hidden resident.

    It’s one of the Northwest’s most familiar in-jokes. Sasquatch can be found on hipster mugs and T-shirts, and hairy beasts roam the streets on Halloween. A popular music festival is named after the creature.

    As a result, it’s been largely forgotten that intrepid investigators in these parts took the mystery seriously for years, tracking giant footprints and collecting reports of freaky whistling noises heard in the forest.

    No one knows for sure when the Northwest’s Bigfoot legend truly began, but the most successful launching pad for the public's obsession with it is known: a battle that supposedly took place in a narrow gorge on the east flank of Mt. St. Helens. The gorge is now called Ape Canyon.

    That’s where, in the summer of 1924, a group of gold prospectors stumbled out of the woods, shaking and glassy-eyed, to tell of 7-foot-tall ape-like animals attacking them with boulders.

    Fred Beck, Gabe Lefever, John Peterson, Marion Smith and Smith’s son Roy described coming upon “gorilla men” near where they had built a small cabin for their gold-hunting forays.

    They claimed they were eight miles from Spirit Lake when they encountered four of the giant animals moving through the forest with erect, human-like strides. “They are covered with long, black hair,” The Oregonian reported, relating the descriptions offered by the men. “Their ears are about four inches long and stick straight up. They have four toes, short and stubby.” The witnesses estimated each animal weighed about 400 pounds.

    Taken aback at the sight of the huge beasts, Fred Beck fired his rifle at one of the creatures, and, struck three times, the wounded animal toppled off a cliff. (Beck reportedly claimed years later that another member of the party fired the shots.)

    The violence proved a mistake.

    That night, the men said, they were awakened when huge stones began clomping against the outside of their cabin. Then they heard -- and felt -- giant bodies slamming against the walls and door. The ape-men were seeking revenge.

    The beasts eventually tore a hole in the roof, allowing them to target Beck.

    “Many of the rocks fell through a hole in the roof, and two of the rocks struck Beck, one of them rendering him unconscious for nearly two hours,” The Oregonian reported.

    Finally, the prospectors said, the sun began to come up, which prompted the animals to break off their attack and slip away. The men poked their heads out the door and, when they decided the coast was clear, ran out of the woods.

    Tales of giant “ape-men” weren’t exactly new to the area. Hunters, lumberjacks and prospectors had seen massive footprints now and again over the years, and Native Americans in the area had spoken of “mountain devils.” But few people seriously worried about the possibility of huge, unknown creatures being out there in the forest.

    That changed when the gold-hunters returned to civilization that summer day in 1924. The dramatic story of their battle with large, human-like beasts was irresistible -- and thus hard for people to dismiss.

    With news reports and word-of-mouth causing a local sensation, the U.S. Forest Service decided to investigate.

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    A sketch by Richard Brown of what he said he saw in headlights of car as he drove to the Pinewood Trailer Court near The Dalles in June 1971. (The Oregonian archives)

    Rangers J.H. Huffman and William Welch hiked into the forest with Beck, who took them to the cliff where he said the wounded ape-man fell.

    “[A] ranger scrambled down the supposedly inaccessible canyon and found -- nothing,” The Oregonian wrote.

    Beck and the rangers continued on to the prospectors’ cabin, and Beck pointed out the large stones that had been used in the attack. Huffman and Welch weren’t impressed, concluding that the gold miners had probably placed the large stones themselves.

    But, an Oregonian reporter asked the rangers when they returned to Kelso, Wash., what about the 14-inch-long footprints found near the cabin?

    Huffman created an imprint in the ground using the knuckles and palm of his right hand. “They were made that way,” he said.

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    In 1967, Bigfoot hunter Roger Patterson compared his foot with a cast he made of a footprint. (Oregonian)

    Despite the rangers’ debunking of the story, people still wanted to believe -- and the tale continued to spread.

    “Friends and acquaintances of the five men who reported their experiences are of the belief that they actually saw something which cannot be explained,” The Oregonian reported later that summer.

    Cowlitz tribe member Frank Wannassay told a reporter about “peculiar creatures” the tribe’s elders had often spoken about.

    “Mr. Wannassay described them as between nine and ten feet tall, correspondingly large in stature and their bodies covered with long hair,” The Oregonian wrote. The report continued: “They were never seen, traveling only at night.”

    Wannassay insisted the animals were “harmless.”

    In the years that followed, the prospectors’ story would be repeated time and again, inspiring various sightings of and theories about the beasts.

    “Since then,” Oregonian reporter Anita Nygaard wrote in 1974, “tracks have been sighted on the Lewis River, attested to by rational and honest witnesses; occasional campers and motorists have been startled by glimpses of huge and mysterious hairy creatures walking like men, disappearing into the woods.”

    -- Douglas Perry

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    I suppose a Bigfoot would be mistaken for a gorilla by an uninformed observer.
     
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    I've heard of bigfoot called 'ape-like' or 'giant ape' in a couple old sighting reports...Gorillas do not grow over six foot tall, they are usually about five to five and half feet tall so the sheer size of a large bigfoot of eight feet or more should quickly convince the person its not a gorilla...Those prospectors were most likely very uninformed...

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