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Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
I don't understand some of the contradictions in the abduction phenomenon. Jim Sparks said the abductors try to make it clear to abductees how much trouble our planet is in with pollution, climate change, nuclear standoffs, etc. He asked them why they can't fix it for us and they told him that this is our planet and that they cannot interfere (???). It seems like they're already interfering greatly if they're secretly abducting humans.
 

Toroid

Founding Member
I don't understand some of the contradictions in the abduction phenomenon. Jim Sparks said the abductors try to make it clear to abductees how much trouble our planet is in with pollution, climate change, nuclear standoffs, etc. He asked them why they can't fix it for us and they told him that this is our planet and that they cannot interfere (???). It seems like they're already interfering greatly if they're secretly abducting humans.
It seems they can take an indirect path that doesn't violate a universal interference law. In Jim's book The Keepers he described mass abductions he was apart of. They would put the abductees in rooms and make them watch screens depicting environmental degradation.
 

Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
Some of the things Sparks describes seem so brutal, it's hard to believe they're thinking about universal laws or rules. I think of the time he claims hundreds of people were abducted during their sleep and dumped into a abandoned athletic field. Nothing about it seems particularly caring or benevolent.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
Hi Shadow, it was actually a life long thing, since i was a small child.I never had a frame of reference for the strangeness in my life till about 2011 when i could have a pc and go online.After a while of reading online,the penny dropped and i finally understood what was going on.I was very traumatised by this truth.

I mean i was traumatised for most of my life but i i thought i was being stalked by supernatural,like demonic or ghostly entities.I also considered for most of my life that i might be mentally ill.I've suffered from severe major depressive disorder since i was a small child,so i figured its prolly a combination of the two - That i was stalked by supernatural entities and also a bit daft in the head.

Hindsight can be very revealing though, once i had a frame of reference for what was happening, i had to concede that there was no other possibility. Especially when looking back on my life since early childhood. Things "heated up" a lot around end 2011/2012, i had several abductions in that time.I managed to retain some memories. Of course in the mornings there were also the marks and bruises and puncture holes,even severely strained muscles and other injuries.

But i'm 53yo now,and had menopause about 3 years ago. They have been leaving me alone for quite a while now,im pretty sure. I will contribute to threads where i can add some experiences as time passes.

bolth myself and my wife are looking forward to you opening a topic on your abductions
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
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high school shopping 1975 I remember my folks spending bout 50 to 75 for my stuff.

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high school shopping 2018 my wife just dropped 200
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Pickings from my garden this morning...

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The shadow

The shadow knows!
Happy 11th Birthday to Ian William!
in Sept he starts 5th grade. the last of elementary school.
He is a smart kid having a love of science. I recently introduced him to Mr. Wizard. (Don Herbert)
he loves those old shows!
He also loves baseball! His time on the Bullfrogs has enriched his life greatly!
here is to you my son!
happy birthday!
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Today turned out to be a 15 hr work day, I've been up since 0330 this morning and now it's about 2200, not really tired though, but I do need to sleep since I need to wake at 0500 tomorrow morning...Then 3 days off yay!...

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The shadow

The shadow knows!
Today turned out to be a 15 hr work day, I've been up since 0330 this morning and now it's about 2200, not really tired though, but I do need to sleep since I need to wake at 0500 tomorrow morning...Then 3 days off yay!...

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get some sleep! I been there!
 

nivek

As Above So Below
My night just took a turn for the worst, I let my dog outside and he happened upon a skunk and got sprayed...ugh

He's out on the deck and I can smell that from inside...Going to bath him in tomato sauce now, don't know how long this cleanup is going to be...

Until later...:(

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SilentRunning

Honorable
My night just took a turn for the worst, I let my dog outside and he happened upon a skunk and got sprayed...ugh

He's out on the deck and I can smell that from inside...Going to bath him in tomato sauce now, don't know how long this cleanup is going to be...

Until later...:(

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Oh, NO!!!!
 

michael59

Celestial
My night just took a turn for the worst, I let my dog outside and he happened upon a skunk and got sprayed...ugh

He's out on the deck and I can smell that from inside...Going to bath him in tomato sauce now, don't know how long this cleanup is going to be...

Until later...:(

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Smells like burning rubber, right? :laugh8:

Tomato bath is not as effective as we have been led to believe. Never worked for my dog. You might want to find a secure place for him outdoors. It's just as effective.

I've been up for 2 days straight, but at least I don't have to go anywhere until tomorrow evening.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Smells like burning rubber, right? :laugh8:

Tomato bath is not as effective as we have been led to believe. Never worked for my dog. You might want to find a secure place for him outdoors. It's just as effective.

I've been up for 2 days straight, but at least I don't have to go anywhere until tomorrow evening.

That's the first thing I smelled was burning rubber, then moments later Oh My God!...lol

Nope tomato sauce isn't very effective, it knocks down the severity but not the intensity if that makes any sense, or maybe I'm just tired...I bath him with every can of tomato sauce I had and nope he wasn't coming in the house for now either...The past hour he's been howling on the deck over his banishment lol, poor guy, but I can't let him back indoors quite yet...Three large towels and two hand towels laying out near the garden hose will have to be burned...

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That's the first thing I smelled was burning rubber, then moments later Oh My God!...lol

Nope tomato sauce isn't very effective, it knocks down the severity but not the intensity if that makes any sense, or maybe I'm just tired...I bath him with every can of tomato sauce I had and nope he wasn't coming in the house for now either...The past hour he's been howling on the deck over his banishment lol, poor guy, but I can't let him back indoors quite yet...Three large towels and two hand towels laying out near the garden hose will have to be burned...

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The worst things always seem to happen near the end of a grueling work schedule.

This site recommends a mixture of hydrogen peroxide, baking soda, and dish soap:

"Hydrogen peroxide, baking soda and dish soap: Konecny recommends mixing together one quart of three percent hydrogen peroxide (available at any pharmacy), a quarter cup cup baking soda and one teaspoon liquid dishwashing soap. Wearing rubber gloves, wash your dog immediately after he’s been sprayed. Place the mixture on your dog’s coat (avoiding his eyes) and allow it to rest for about 20 minutes before washing your dog. Follow up by washing your dog with pet shampoo and rinsing well, repeating the process two to three more times as needed. Konecny warns against creating this mixture before a possible incident and storing it, as the mixture could explode if left in a bottle."
How to Get Skunk Smell Off a Dog | petMD

Apparently they make special shampoos for this too:

"Skunk-specific shampoo, spray or soaker: look for a product that has been specifically formulated to get rid of skunk odor. You can typically get these products from your veterinarian or pet supply store and if you live in an area where skunks are common, it may be a good idea to keep the product on hand to address the issue as soon as it comes up. With shampoos, sprays and soakers, wipe off excess skunk spray first and then read the bottle’s directions for applying the solution. Remember to keep these products from getting into your dog’s eyes and ask your veterinarian how often you should repeat bathing."
 

nivek

As Above So Below
The worst things always seem to happen near the end of a grueling work schedule.

This site recommends a mixture of hydrogen peroxide, baking soda, and dish soap:

"Hydrogen peroxide, baking soda and dish soap: Konecny recommends mixing together one quart of three percent hydrogen peroxide (available at any pharmacy), a quarter cup cup baking soda and one teaspoon liquid dishwashing soap. Wearing rubber gloves, wash your dog immediately after he’s been sprayed. Place the mixture on your dog’s coat (avoiding his eyes) and allow it to rest for about 20 minutes before washing your dog. Follow up by washing your dog with pet shampoo and rinsing well, repeating the process two to three more times as needed. Konecny warns against creating this mixture before a possible incident and storing it, as the mixture could explode if left in a bottle."
How to Get Skunk Smell Off a Dog | petMD

Apparently they make special shampoos for this too:

"Skunk-specific shampoo, spray or soaker: look for a product that has been specifically formulated to get rid of skunk odor. You can typically get these products from your veterinarian or pet supply store and if you live in an area where skunks are common, it may be a good idea to keep the product on hand to address the issue as soon as it comes up. With shampoos, sprays and soakers, wipe off excess skunk spray first and then read the bottle’s directions for applying the solution. Remember to keep these products from getting into your dog’s eyes and ask your veterinarian how often you should repeat bathing."


Thank you, I did see some home remedies but never tried one of them, this is actually the 2nd time this has happened, last year when we were hiking miles from home he ran after something, turned out to be skunk, I had to take him home in my car too...I have a Lincoln with leather seats, took a month to get that smell out of the back seat...

When my veterinarian opens up this morning I will call her and inquire about those special shampoos, I didn't know about that, surely they have something since we are out in the country where skunks and other wild animals abound...

Thanks again, I'm at work for a half day, working off 4 hours sleep in the past two days, but 3 days off after this which I'm certainly looking forward to!...

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