The P C Madness thread.

Discussion in 'Present & Current Events' started by 1963, Jun 27, 2020.

  1. AD1184

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    I didn't see any political incorrectness.
     
  2. michael59

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    You don't think someone saying, "I hate white people." is politically incorrect?

     
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  3. Sheltie

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    It goes without saying, quite a bit of Are You Being Served would be considered inappropriate by today's audience.



    Nevertheless, anyone who has ever worked in retail can strongly relate.
     
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  4. michael59

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    I loved that show and I also loved watching Keeping Up Appearances. :D
     
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  5. AD1184

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    I neglected to respond to this, but I think that sentiment is perfectly acceptable in politically-correct circles. It is an anti-white racialist comment, but the PC definition of racism stipulates that it is only something done or expressed by the powerful against those who are not powerful. i.e. racism, according to them, is something that can only be done by whites to non-whites, and not the other way around. I don't think a Tweet by someone saying "I hate black people" would be treated in such a light-hearted manner on that programme.
     
  6. nivek

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    Speaking of 'madness'...

    Sleep is for privileged white people, popular magazine says — so now activists call for 'rest reparations'

    Teen Vogue published an article last week alleging sleep is indicative of systemic racism. Now some activists are calling for "rest reparations" in the form of sabbaticals and time off from work and other strenuous activities.

    What are the details?

    The article, titled, "Black Power Naps is Addressing Systemic Racism in Sleep," reveals the Black Power Naps initiative, which alleges that African Americans typically have shorter life spans when compared to their white peers.

    Black Power Naps — created by writers Navild Acosta and Fannie Sosa — insists that black lives are shorter than white lives because blacks experience "generational fatigue" simply on the grounds that they are African American. The magazine describes Black Power Naps as an "artistic initiative with components including physical installations, zines, an opera, and more." Writers Acosta and Sosa revealed that they experienced an epiphany: They were always tired, and realized that it was because they were impacted by "hundreds of years of sleep deprivation" that was due to systemic racism.

    "[They] were tired, but it wasn't just any old fatigue," the article read. "Yes, they experienced a lack of sleep, but they were specifically experiencing a generational fatigue familiar to black people and people of color." The realization prompted them to demand reparations through breaks and time off from work through the initiative.

    "[Black Power Naps] is also a recognition of the hundreds of years of sleep deprivation that black people and people of color have experienced as a result of systemic racism, a way to push back against the false stereotype that black people are lazy, and an investigation of the inequitable distribution of rest," the article added.

    So what do Acosta and Sosa have to say about this?

    Acosta told the magazine that black people and people of color inherited sleep deprivation through years of slavery and control.

    "We're dealing with an inheritance of sleep deprivation," she complained. "Sleep deprivation was a ... deliberate tactic of slave owners to basically make the mind feeble. That same tactic has only evolved." She also insisted that it is imperative that black people and people of color be allowed to dream properly.

    "The dream space is a crucial space to make sense of your reality and properly process the violence that may be happening," he said. "When we're not getting the sleep we need, it is another front line — the place where we sleep." Sosa insisted that generations of slavery have made it imperative for black people and people of color to rest as much as they can in the following generations.

    "Slavery is a regime of stealing and extraction: stolen wages, stolen life, stolen land, but stolen time was one of the main things. We need time. We need time off; we need time out," she said. "Our ancestors never got to take a month off for holidays; they never got to take a sabbatical; they never got to take a nap. When you piled all of those together, you see the reparations that need to happen are monetary, but they're also time and space."

    Sosa pointed out that it's also unfair that black people and people of color have to go out amid a global pandemic to demand such rest reparations, which makes them suffer from exhaustion even further.

    "We are having to go out in the streets during a pandemic, expending our energy in really huge amounts in order to ask for reparations and rest and energy," Sosa reasoned. "It is a .... double-edged sword to navigate as an activist or organizer. You are putting your body on the line to reclaim it. That creates a lot of burnout. We have people who are 20, 21, they are burnt out. They need time off. They need to not only sleep, but to know their people are going to be OK, to know they're going to be OK, to know they can take a break."


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  7. michael59

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    Well, they might be on to something there... lol

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  8. michael59

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    Wanda Sykes hosted the Ellen Show one time and did a segment twist on "Oh, straight people." with "Oh, white people."

    At the end of her segment, she jokingly dared Ellen to do a "Oh, black people."

    I originally watched it on youtube. I just tried to find that clip on youtube and the ending where she dares Ellen has been removed.
     
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  9. AD1184

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    Well, there you go. Doing comedic segments on stereotypes of straight people and white people is politically correct. It is not politically correct to do similar segments on gay or black people. Not to say that either is something I would be inclined to see, but it illustrates the nature of political correctness.
     
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  10. pepe

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    Frustrating isn't it.

    It's called a whip hand and we were warned it would come. Literally mad I think the words were.

    Brits rounded them up and the Americans snapped them up, that's why our two nations are held highest on the accusatory list.

    I am a racist and at last I can rest knowing one way or the other, for years I knew I wasn't and then came the doubt spurred by a want to tap my unconscious bias ( systemic condition ) and reach the parts of my person I'm not actually aware of.

    I've harped on about everyone as racist to some degree and this black frustration that voices whites as never being able to understand because of the unconscious preference syndrome we are born with.

    I'm only a bit racist though, you know, the bit that covers preference via origin.

    Black lives matter less to me as a white man and a big vice versa is surely expected, it's why little green men come in swathes.
     
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    All life matters and hopefully we clue into that while we still can.

    One mountain at a time, right?

    I don't consider myself racist. I was raised by racists and as a child did not know any better.

    As an adult, I found myself really getting my hate on for teenagers. I lived near a High School and they were so disrespectful as well as destructive to other peoples property.

    Then one day my car died in the middle of a really busy road right in the fast lane. I kept trying to start it to the point of draining all power from the battery so, the hazard lights stopped working. It was just starting to get dark and it was -50C with the windchill making it feel like -70C. The car steering wheel locked if the vehicle was not running so, I couldn't even steer it to the side of the road. I put the hood up and went into McDonalds to use the phone. The teenage shift manager would not let me and I had to buy something to get change for the unprotected phone outside that for some reason had no booth around it it was just a pole with a phone attached to it. By the time I finished waiting on hold and then relaying my info to them, my hands and mouth were completely frozen.

    I was scared as I sat there waiting for emergency road service.

    Two teenage guys came toward me and I found myself hiding my purse under my seat. They were around 18/19 years old. They asked if they could help me push it to the side. I explained the situation and thanked them for checking on me. They stayed there with me the whole 75 minutes it took for the road service to arrive. They stood behind my vehicle and redirected traffic around me. All they had on were jeans and hoodies.

    My heart melted. I really needed that experience. :)
     
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  12. pepe

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    It isn't the racist part that worries me, it's who gets to consider what you are that does. In fifty years time, what is written here will be so much more offensive than meant at the time.

    Those guys did what is expected and is a sad reflection that you felet lucky to remain safe.
     
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  13. michael59

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    I'm actually a bit relieved to hear that you do worry sometimes, Pepe.:wink4:

    There were a lot of people that stopped and offered to help push the car to the curb, at least a dozen maybe more. Most were grown men but, those teens were the only ones that stayed with me.:smile4:
     
  14. nivek

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    Good point, and also I think a key the problem with most everything in all this PC madness and protesting/rioting madness however we see this in all social levels and interactions like in schools and colleges, indoctrinating (educating) and conditioning (learning) even if very subtle, its there though...Religious and political networks and organizations do the same thing to a certain point, we're seeing the extreme side of this madness more so now...

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    JOHN GRAY: It's not an exaggeration to compare the methods used by the new 'woke movement' to those of Mao's Red Guards

    Today we are no longer living in a free society. Instead, we are ruled by those who try to enforce their extreme views by shaming and ruining those who think differently. It is not far-fetched to compare the methods of this ‘woke movement’ to those of Chairman Mao’s Red Guards, who terrorised the Chinese people half a century ago.

    The so-called ‘cancel culture’ – publicly shaming and trying to undermine the professional standing of anyone who deviates from ever-more extreme standards of political correctness – is simply the latest expression of this intolerant, baying movement. Such behaviour was once confined to virtue-signalling celebrities. However, it has now insidiously taken hold in most of our national institutions.

    From universities, the Church, big business, schools, broadcast media, the police, local authorities, publishing houses and even in some newspapers, woke ideology is now being actively promoted.

    This is a terrifying development.

    Anyone who departs from the new orthodoxy is deemed evil and beyond redemption.

    By ganging up together on social media, activists are on a mission to get such people sacked from their jobs and silenced forever.

    Historically, the far-Left tried to shut down debate. But today’s woke crusaders go much further.

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  17. michael59

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    Who do you think is getting to consider this, Pepe?

    I think it's being used to further agendas. Anyone who is bold, big, loud, brave or independent enough to speak freely is being ostracized. Even stripped from making a living in their field of interest/expertise. Especially if you are someone/anyone in the public eye, such as a celebrity.

    Remember when we all got together as civilians who did not want the CISPA. We down voted it and won, remember? Even Obama threatened to veto the bill. Only to have the government quietly pass the vote for CISA right under our noses.

    Definition of CISPA

    No more rights to privacy
    No more freedom of
    Submission from the masses - you & me

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    Earlier today I tried to put together a response to this post.

    I wanted to explain how we are slowly and surely losing all of our liberties, freedoms, privacy, and even freedom of speech. I wanted to explain that even tho covid 19 is real, it is no larger threat than anything else that has been tossed our way in the past century in pandemic terms. That 80% of this hype is happening to further political agendas. I wanted to back up everything I said with proper proof via links, documents and video evidence.

    Anything I tried to search that had the word(s) agenda, politically correct, controlling the masses, resulted in browser not responding. Did not matter what browser I tried using I got the same message. Especially if it involved the POTUS in any negative light and I'm not just referring to Trump.

    No matter how hard I tried, I could not get my computer to work properly. I could not even do a google search without it freezing so, I gave up. That was at 11am this morning. It just started working properly again not more than 5 minutes ago. That's 12 hours of lost time trying to research what's happening right in front of our noses.

    Then, when I went back and tried to add the paragraph bolded above, it started acting up again. I'm not giving in this time. I have everything I was trying to list/search in my history and loads of free time thanks to Covid 19.

    To be continued...
     
  18. pigfarmer

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    I never really got a visceral feel for anarchists - in any era.

    Until now.
     
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  19. 1963

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/15/mccarthyism-is-back-this-time-its-woke/

    Ok, they are both basically saying the same thing, but they are broadly also in line with my own thoughts on today's radical culture change.
    As what you might call 'an old film buff' that has since time immemorial been an avid viewer of all kinds of celluloid presentations of various quality from the dawn of cinema until the present [my favourite period being the 1930's] I have always spent my hard earned pocket-money and requested for birthdays, Christmas etc books, both glossy and informational about the world of entertainment, and chief among these of course were the 'Hollywood Golden Period Pantheons' of the 1930's onward which was an absolutely fascinating time both for it's undoubted glamour, skill and imagination. But also has to be noted for it's uncompromising insight into the general ethos and political doctrines of the day. And to cut a long story short, apart from the great works of art that many of the great Hollywood productions must be seen as, it is equally apparent that the practice of 'the inveigling of Joe and Jane Public's morals and social acceptance' by means of what can only be accurately termed as 'brainwashing' as been an enduring and still extant prime directive that has been "demanded of the many by the few" ... and any deviation from this [not so subtle] 'Prime Directive' will ultimately incur the mighty wrath of 'the powers that be' [studio basses, gossip columnists etc] ... and so on the whole the party line was towed and individualism was almost always sacrificed! [and deemed as Wrong Thought!] ... Hence the easy way in for that blight on humanity , AKA McCarthyism that scourged Hollywood [in particular] for a couple of decades! ...
    .. Well thankfully by the swinging sixties this shameful era in Hollywood's history was practically obsolete [though vestiges of hyper-morality still remained in pockets of the entertainment industry] and skilled movie-makers were allowed the freedom they needed to be allowed to enable a new kind of cinematic mind food to flourish. And though the films themselves didn't get any bigger, they were definitely bolder. .... Yes it was a great weight lifted from the expert movie-maker's shoulders and continued for the next two or three decades unabated ... with the end product of there being an array of grittier more realistic films for our perusal , and the best thing was that we were 'allowed to think for ourselves' and decide whether or not the film that we had just watched was any good or not , morally acceptable etc by using the means of our own consciousness ... and not what we are told to think! ... But of course it's human nature that all good things must come to an end. ... and in my personal opinion, we have been slowly but inexorably sliding backward into 'the new McCarthy-type era' for at least a decade now. ... Yes a brand new McCarthyism in all but name!! ... only this time instead of communism it is being variously labelled as "WOKE, ANTISEMITISM, and just plain RACISM" all of which are often applied erroneously! ...
    And we all know about the 'woke and racism' aspects of the new McCarthyism that these articles are referring to ... and presumably agree [which would kind of explain your attendance in this thread] ... but as agreeable as the two articles are to my mindset, but there is one aspect of this new fast-moving culture assault that doesn't get a mention at all, and that is in my opinion just as alarming , with the intent of creating a deep mind-control and a stifling of thought-freedom , and that is as I touched upon earlier , the vice-like grip that a small but powerful section of society is using a comparatively rare [nasty none the less] human abomination "Antisemitism" as the weapon-of-choice in order to cover very real wrongdoings being done by others that happen to share their religious beliefs. ... And while I agree that all forms of religious intolerance is abhorrent as any form of prejudice ... there has in all of my lifetime been special dispensation given to all things jewish and jew-related practices [ie. the male genital-mutilation of children, which is no more acceptable than the FGM practiced in other cultures in these supposed-enlightened days!] ... but it is plain to see that far from being an anomalous oversight in condemnation of such a barbaric cult-practice, but to oppose anything that would otherwise be deemed to be 'just plain wrong' in anything that they do or say it is increasingly difficult to criticize anything at all that is carried out under the safety of the 'antisemitism-umbrella'. ... And of course that pertains mainly to Knesset policy toward their neighbours, ... but also has very long tentacles that have reached out almost all over the world. ... And that plainly is demonstrated during elections in numerous countries around the world, including mine!
    And it has reached the point where no-one with any sort of ambition can even mention the word 'Jewish' in all forms of society... and you do not even have to insult their practices or say anything derogatory or demeaning at all....
    For instance, one of my favourite actors of recent times Gary Oldman actually sickened me when I saw him appearing on an American primetime show with the hopes of showing requisite amount of contrition by publicly displaying his sincere sackcloth and ashes by repeatedly apologising to some gobshite nobody nerd that was constantly shouting and berating him to the point of public humiliation for a throwaway comment that he had made previously in a nothing-interview in the 'Playboy Magazine' that "someone" decided to twist as being "ANTISEMITISM"! ... this is the exact quote that he was forced to publicly repent to avoid the ruination of his fine career... "Mel Gibson is in a town that's run by Jews, and he said the wrong thing because he's actually bitten the hand that I guess has fed him."
    ... now I ask you good folk at AE, ... "is that really antisemitism?" .. if so, then please explain to me just how stating an easily verifiable 'FACT' is in anyway antisemitism? ... Hollywood has always been predominantly run by Jewish people!! FACT! ... This is a single example of why I include 'antisemitism' in the New McCarthyism movement' ... there are many more that I could site, but the Whole .. 'Antisemitism vs AntiIsraelipolicy' debate deserves a thread unto itself ... [but please don't get me started on that septic can of worms here, because I am sick of idiotic-no-logic-arguments from argumentative-no-logic-idiots that think that they have righteously proven that I am a closet Nazi by means of simply labelling me an anti-Semite because I will never say that Israeli policy is acceptable to my conscience ! ... But I swear on my life that I am in no way 'AntiSemite' in the way that my accusers would have you believe! In actual fact I am Antireligious and 'Devoutly Anti-despotism toward any section of society!

    ... right, rant over thanks... [​IMG]

    Cheers.


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    Excellent post and spot on. McCarthyism - great analogy.

    My wife and my closest friends are Jewish and that's an all encompassing term. It isn't strictly religious as weird as that sounds, although obviously it can be. Israelis are a totally different breed - a rough lot. I was raised as a Catholic and have nothing to do with it, don't consider myself one. Your Mom is Jewish, so are you regardless of your religious bent.

    Even me making what I think are pretty straightforward comments about this could - and probably would - be perceived as negative by the Woke (or whoever) although not by the people it directly concerns. Polite conversation naturally steers around certain topics, but what's polite depends on perspective. What's acceptable at one time will get you burned at the stake in another.

    Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton and Louis Farrakhan can say what they please and never have a real problem while Gary Oldman is crucified.
     
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