The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program

Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
$22 million to the defense budget is like 22 cents to you and I. Strange anomalies are occurring around nuclear facilities and the US military cannot simply ignore it.
 

Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
I certainly hope this is the beginning of a new policy by the US military.
 

August

Metanoia
Yes be good if they sneak us a UFO here and there . They must have more than just that film from the Navy. I remember Gordon Cooper the astronaut saying that they had seen a saucer land on a runway and filmed it then sent the film off and never seen it again. They say Cooper was a no nonsense kind of person .
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
$22 million to the defense budget is like 22 cents to you and I. Strange anomalies are occurring around nuclear facilities and the US military cannot simply ignore it.

More like a buck if the comparison is the annual budget of you and the pentagon.

Would most people pay a buck a year to find out the truth about UFOs?

And the 2018 defense budget is $824.6 billion not the $600 billion claimed by the OP.
 

August

Metanoia
One would think if National Security is being breached by unknowns then it would be very relevant to spend a few bucks in finding out just what those unknowns are.
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
One would think if National Security is being breached by unknowns then it would be very relevant to spend a few bucks in finding out just what those unknowns are.

I think the military has always studied UFOs at least as far as interference with military operations and potential threats are concerned, it would be complete dereliction of duty not to do so. If personnel are reporting strange things happening near nuclear weapons, they better get to the bottom of it ASAP. Of course, what they tell their own personnel and the citizenry is another matter entirely.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
No doubt more disinfo to feed the appetites of the ufo fans.

It could be a distraction of some sort, for what purpose though?...Perhaps the government is simply declassifying some information with no ulterior motive?...
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Backtracking Has Begun on the Pentagon UFO Videos

An attempt was made to obtain additional information from the Defense Intelligence Agency which ran the so-called UFO investigation agency and was told there’s been some “confusion” about the program, the Department of Defense did not release the two videos and it won’t honor requests for the release of any others … if they even exist. Let the backtracking begin.

The fingers in this case are pointing long and hard at Luis Elizondo, who allegedly ran the $22 million Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program (AATIP) from 2007 to 2012 when it was allegedly dissolved due to running out of money.

However, he implied that some form of AATIP existed beyond that time and he was involved with it until he resigned in October to join Tom DeLonge’s To The Stars Academy.

It was apparently in his capacity as a TTSA founder, not as the former AATIP director, that Elizondo released the videos, thus giving the Pentagon an opening to back away from responsibility.

The Defense Intelligence Agency states:
“There is some confusion about this program and claims about its purpose in press reporting… the Defense Intelligence Agency has not released any information, files or videos.”

A spokesperson for its parent, the Defense Department, disputed only the part about it the AATIP’s purpose:
“The AATIP’s mandate, when it existed, was to assess far-term foreign advanced aerospace threats to the United States.”

That also puts into question Elizondo’s claim that the program somehow continued to live on without funding and that its purpose was to look for extraterrestrial UFOs, not just “foreign” aerospace threats.

Star Online points out that Elizondo changed his story about the videos substantially once they became public, citing a Washington Post report that Elizondo said in an internal government memo that he merely wanted the videos to “help educate pilots and improve aviation safety.”

That doesn’t sound like UFO disclosure and AATIP exposure.

Of course, any questioning of the videos or insinuation of backtracking brings out the cries of “government cover-up” and that is always a possibility. The only way that will change now is if Luis Elizondo releases more videos or other forms of evidence.

And this time, the video better be a blockbuster. No more trickle-down UFOnomics.
 

dr wu

Noble
Again....Elizondo is connected to Delonge's group and not official government channels( as far as we know). So it's difficult to know what lies behind his motivations and those of Delonge's or the ultimate validity of the video.
I honestly don't see any meaningful disclosure coming out of this group and what interests me the most is how it was formed...who was behind it from the beginning? It's obvious some former government people contacted Delonge to use him as a front to create this venture because they knew he was a ufo fan. I seriously doubt that the intentions of the people behind Delonge was simply a noble idea to get ufo truth to the people. What the true purpose is has not been revealed imho.
 

karl 12

Noble
Backtracking Has Begun on the Pentagon UFO Videos


The Defense Intelligence Agency states:

“There is some confusion about this program and claims about its purpose in press reporting… the Defense Intelligence Agency has not released any information, files or videos.”


Good post mate -it seems there's also some confusion within the DIA about whether or not they investigate the phenomenon (as verified documentation indicates they do) and whether they have any information to actually release (as they claim they accidentally purged UFO files so they didn't have to release them under the FOIA).


DIA Routing and transmission codes
 

karl 12

Noble
Would not surprise me if there were other programs as it pertains to that as well that has even higher budgets.

Wouldn't surprise me (or quite a lot of other folks) either mate and there really is some interesting reading in the article below about the National Reconnaissance Office - I've posted it in it's entirety as it keeps on being taken down and the link is literally the last page on the web that hosts it).


SECRET US INTELLIGENCE AGENCY HOLDS UFO ANSWERS

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A US intelligence agency that denied its very existence for decades has likely already determined the true nature of the UFO phenomena, and has kept its discoveries from the public for over a half-century.

This agency has the ability to “see” anything anywhere at any time as it is happening - even outside of our atmosphere. They have detected airspace intrusions of all kinds – including most assuredly, those of Unidentified Flying Objects.
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The degree of precision with which they operate is so astounding -and the scope of their global coverage is so vast - that there is only one conclusion that can be drawn about this ultra-secret agency: If extraterrestrial craft have entered the Earth’s realm, they are aware of them and they have filmed them.

These images – and their accompanying technical analysis- have never been released to the public. The stunning reasons why this is so are now revealed - including those found in a USAF letter about UFOs from the 1970s. The letter (directed to this author) denied the existence of the agency in question and warned me away by threatening prosecution by federal authorities.

Now many years later, this author has again picked up on the trail to expose the deep UFO secrets of the most secret organization in the world- the National Reconnaissance Office.
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THE AGENCY THAT DARE NOT SPEAK ITS NAME


Though it has been active for over 50 years, the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) was only officially acknowledged about 15 years ago. Before this acknowledgement, its employees could be imprisoned or even put to death under the Espionage Act
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if they were to reveal its name or even its mere existence. Since 1961 the NRO has quietly employed tens of thousands of people and it has spent hundreds of billions of dollars.

Officially part of the US Department of Defense, its stated mission is to design, build, operate and maintain global spy satellites and to control and to collect the information and images that are gathered from them. It tracks and monitors all traffic entering and leaving the Earth’s atmosphere. The agency secretly constructs and launches these ultra-advanced satellites in cooperation with NASA. The NRO also maintains a planetary-wide network of ground stations which process and analyze signals, photos and filmed images.

The NRO, headquartered in Chantilly, VA, has a waiver for “open competition” requirements. This means that the agency does not need to comply with the US government contracting laws that apply to all other federal departments and agencies. Contractors and vendors do not compete for business with the NRO. The NRO uses who they want. It is not obligated to advertise its requirements or to make Requests for Proposals.

Only recently was it compelled by a lawsuit to make its budget available to the public - but only the “unclassified” portions of the agency’s budget. This means that the financial expenditures for most all of the activities and departments of the NRO will never be known. The Washington Post in September 1995 reported that the NRO appears to have a multi-billion dollar budget and that billions per year were being hoarded by the agency as “unspent funds” of which the Pentagon and the Congress were never made aware. The Directors of the NRO are named without confirmation by Congress by the US Secretary of Defense. And the agency is worrisomely independent. Though it is chartered to collaborate with other select agencies and departments, the NRO often refuses to share gathered intelligence or technological breakthroughs with the larger US defense and intelligence communities. Simply put, the NRO does not play by anyone’s rules but it’s own.

It is believed that the prime contractors to the NRO are Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and Orbital Sciences Corporation. Engineers at these companies working on NRO projects of any kind must attain Top Secret/SCI (Sensitive Compartmented Information) security clearance, a process often taking years. They are made to take polygraphs routinely and without notice. Many NRO employees work under Draconian conditions. This often includes working in underground windowless offices; being scanned regularly (including full-body and retinal scanning) and surrendering all cell phones, personal technology and writing instruments. Often NRO employees require escort when moving through offices. They work alongside individuals whose actual names are sometimes unknown to them and with whom they are never to discuss anything personal or work-related. For decades (until the US Government acknowledged its existence in late 1992) the people employed by the NRO were unable to say precisely for whom they worked or what they did, not even to their wives or children. IRS records would only reflect their employment as being with the “Department of Defense.” NRO employees became “indentured” forever to the intelligence/defense communities. They were unable to mention their employment by the NRO or their experience attained there. Because of this, they could only work for other similar agencies such as NSA
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or theCIA
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or their associated contractors.

The satellite technology that is designed and maintained by the NRO is so technologically extraordinary that it is believed that the agency can “see” any selected human, ground or airborne “target” that it wishes to observe. With literal pinpoint accuracy (and with astonishing clarity and resolution) it can image anything that is visible on the planet or that is coming to or leaving the Earth, as it occurs. It is able to detect signals of all kinds that are generated anywhere on Earth or its orbit. Wholly unacknowledged – but accepted by industry insiders - is that some of the NRO’s satellites are also equipped with experimental “beam” weaponry with offense and defense applications.

The full capabilities of such super-satellites are not acknowledged by the US government. Even NRO satellite’s numbers and names are generally classified. The NRO occasionally will announce when a new satellite goes into orbit - though it is not obligated to do so, and no substantial details are ever given about such launches. It is known through defense industry insiders that the capabilities and technical sophistication of these satellites far exceeds those of commercial satellites. It is said that NRO technology provides constant real-time data, surveillance and reconnaissance about everything around the world all of the time. Resulting reconnaissance photos and films are said to be of remarkably high quality and imaged in extraordinarily fine detail. New information indicates that this technology may even be able to detect ‘signatures’ and image objects and people through walls and enclosures.

Through its many decades of being our “secret eyes in space” it is inconceivable that the NRO has not had several incidents of detection of “uncorrelated observations.” In fact, this is one of the NRO’s very missions: to detect, image and identify unidentifieds in the air and atmosphere!

The agency is unquestionably the one arm of government that is the most uniquely positioned to possess close-up images of UFOs in airspace or in orbit - or that have perhaps even landed. Objects that are unidentified have surely been encountered buzzing our skies - or upon entering or leaving the atmosphere - on innumerable occasions. And they may have even spotted landings. More than that - given the advanced optics systems onboard these satellites - these UFOs have to have been filmed by NRO and later analyzed by ground station photographic experts. The NRO has acknowledged recently that its first orbiting satellite (called Corona) alone collected more than 800,000 images. With the dozens of such satellites rumored now in orbit, the sheer volume of images captured by the NRO must be in the multiple millions.

THE GOVERNMENT’S THREATENING “LETTER OF LIES” ABOUT UFOs AND THE NRO

On December 27, 1974 (as a young pre-teen admittedly obsessed with UFOs) I sent a registered letter to the then President of the United States, Gerald Ford. I had several questions that I wished answered relative to UFOs and any associated military and intelligence studies and what the precise nature was of an agency with which I had become familiar. That agency, I had learned, was called the “NRO” or the “National Reconnaissance Office.”

Though in the 1970s the NRO was not officially or publicly acknowledged, I had become aware of its name through a very brief (and perhaps slipped) mention of it that was made in an obscure publication circulating at the time. A UFO researcher had mentioned the NRO in an article that appeared in a UFO magazine in 1973 or 1974. I am entirely uncertain how the writer knew of this agency at that time. In fact, he may well have been the very first private individual to have ever named the agency in print.

My request of President Ford
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for UFO information was routed to the US Air Force. My letter was received (and presumably read) by White House staffers first though, as the registered return receipt was signed by the White House and they would have to have read it to know to whom to route it. My mention of the NRO agency was prominently placed at the beginning of the letter and it is likely that White House staffers read the name of the agency in my communication. On January 6, 1975 a reply came from Colonel James J. Shepard of the USAF. He begins the letter, “On behalf of President Ford, I am acknowledging your recent letter to him and placing the matter in the hands of appropriate officials for their careful consideration. You will receive a further reply as soon as possible.”

On January 23, 1975, a “further reply” was received. This time the letter’s author was Colonel M.L. Sorrentino of the USAF. He states, in part, “On behalf of President Ford, this is in further reply to your December 27 letter regarding the investigation of UFOs.” He continues (after having indicated that such UFO study terminated with Project Blue Book) that:

“Moreover, officials are unaware of any federally-sponsored studies regarding UFO phenomena, and have no knowledge of the existence of a ‘National Reconnaissance Office.’”

Sorrentino then continues by citing JANAP 146, an official Joint Army, Navy Air Publication (JANAP) for providing procedures for reporting unexplained aerial activity by military personnel. Sorrentino then warns me:

“Due to the strictly military nature of these matters, both JANAP-146, as well as the reports which it prescribes, must remain with official channels. Therefore, Chapter 37, Title 18 of the United States Code stipulates that any person who makes an unauthorized transmission or disclosure of such a report is liable to prosecution.“

Given that I had mentioned the name of an unacknowledged Intelligence Agency (the NRO) in a letter to the President of the United States, and that I had inquired about its possible detection and filming of UFOs by its satellites, Sorrentino’s admonishment to me was clear. It can be taken that they were concerned that I may at some point say something publicly about the NRO or about its military/intel UFO reports. It could have been taken as a threat. I can tell you that as a young boy at the time, it was indeed.

I have never mentioned this episode to anyone ever, until now. And until now, I have never told this: After I wrote to the President mentioning the NRO and UFOs, I believe that our family’s home phone was tapped and that I was followed for a period of months by unknown persons.

There can be little doubt that the US Air Force deliberately lied to me and deceived me about their knowledge of the NRO. This is because today, on the NRO’s own website, it acknowledges that over its history it has worked closely with the military (including the USAF) in providing valuable intelligence. And of course both the USAF and the NRO are part of the Department of Defense. The distinct implication is that if government officials were lying to me by denying the very existence of a federal agency of which they were actually well aware, they were also likely openly lying about the claim that no official UFO studies were ever conducted after Project Blue Book.
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THE ONE AND ONLY TIME THE NRO SPOKE OF UFOS

The single instance that anyone associated with the agency has ever publicly spoken about the subject of UFOs was in 1997. Gerald K. Haines was employed by the NRO when he released an article that was published in the journal Studies in Intelligence that was entitled “A Die Hard Issue: CIA’s Study of UFOS, 1947-90.”
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Prior, however, Haines has been associated with the Central Intelligence Agency and his treatise relates to the CIA’s activities surrounding UFOs, not the NRO’s dealings with the phenomenon. It remains unclear why a present-day NRO employee would be authoring and releasing another intelligence agency’s UFO information. It is also unclear whether the NRO authorized this release and whether it agreed with the conclusions that were reached by its employee Haines.

In his whitewash report, he determined that although the CIA was concerned about UFOs until the early 1950s, it has since “paid only limited and peripheral attention to the phenomena.” Second, he maintained that “more than half” of alleged UFO sightings in the US through the 1960s were actually of classified aircraft such as the U-2 and SR-71. Haines’ statements are disingenuous. And they not coincidentally coincide with the USAF’s debunking Roswell Report.
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If what Haines said is correct, he is himself revealing a state secret that he should not be. He is “blowing the cover” of a “technique” that lets people believe that they are seeing UFOs, when in fact they are seeing experimental US aircraft.

And Haines is deliberately lying with claims about the U-2 and SR-71 being the cause for most all UFO sightings. Such experimental craft are extremely restricted in just where they can fly. Such vehicles are rarely if ever flown along commercial flight paths- or low over dense civilian populations. The reason for this are obvious - it would compromise classified technology. And Haines fails to mention that the US Government was examining the UFO phenomenon (i.e. ghost rockets and foo-fighters) as early as 1944 - well before the advent of such jets.

Due to his rich background in US Intelligence, Dr. Haines was not asked by journalists why he –as an NRO employee by then - was speaking out about the CIA and UFOs. But what is curious is why these journalists (Haines’ report was widely carried in the press) did not ask him about his current agency (the NRO) and their involvement the phenomena? If the CIA studies UFOs, didn’t the NRO? Why did they not inquire of him if his agency’s super-satellites have ever detected signals from UFOS or if they had ever photographed or filmed UFOs? In one move, Haines had minimized the CIA’s interest in UFOs and at the same time had deflected any interest or inquiry about the NRO’s own UFO involvement.

EXPOSING THE NRO’S UFO SECRETS

Strictly speaking, the NRO is not exempt from FOIA or the Freedom of Information Act. The reality however is that the agency routinely denies FOIA requests of all kinds by indicating that to honor such requests would reveal confidential or sensitive “sources and methods” that would place national security at risk. An organization that does not acknowledge its budget, contractors or mission details (and that did not even admit it’s very existence for decades) is an organization that has surely developed strategies to counter FOIA requests that it deems “troublesome.” Adding further difficulty to FOIA requests to the NRO is that one needs to have appropriate and adequate “identifiers” to make such a request. Without details such as reference numbers, launch names or dates of occurrences, it is very hard to pinpoint specific documents and images to request for public release.

It is also even very difficult to gain information on prior FOIA requests to the NRO on UFOs. It is evident that very few researchers have ever attempted such requests, in part due to the fact that they are not even aware of the agency’s existence! The “Black Vault” (an online repository of FOIA-related and other government documents on UFOs and other phenomena) has no records of such FOIA requests to the NRO. Researcher Timothy Good complained in one of his books that he “drew a blank” when it came to the NRO and UFOs- no information was obtainable. This author has conducted an in-depth review of FOIA Case Logs online (and on the NRO website) to see if anyone has ever requested UFO-related information from the NRO. It appears that only twice this has been done. The first request was made on May 7, 1998 and another time was on April 27, 2001. The responses from the NRO to these requestors is unknown. No information appears to have ever been forthcoming In subsequent years about any results from these requests that may have provided answers to questions about the NRO’s involvement with the UFO phenomenon.

This author is implementing a three-pronged approach to coax information on the NRO and UFOs:

I have teamed with preeminent, long-time UFO researcher Larry Bryant
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on this matter. Mr. Bryant is widely acknowledged to be the UFO community’s expert on constructing and submitting FOIA requests. We are currently working on the appropriate terminology –and with the specificity required- to make an effective FOIA request.

Additionally, Mr. Bryant will be running “whistleblower solicitation ads” to induce former NRO employees or contractors to confidentially come forward with any relevant information on the agency’s dealings with UFOs.

I have teamed with preeminent, long-time UFO researcher Larry Bryant
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on this matter. Mr. Bryant is widely acknowledged to be the UFO community’s expert on constructing and submitting FOIA requests. We are currently working on the appropriate terminology –and with the specificity required- to make an effective FOIA request.

Additionally, Mr. Bryant will be running “whistleblower solicitation ads” to induce former NRO employees or contractors to confidentially come forward with any relevant information on the agency’s dealings with UFOs.

Finally, this author has made the recent acquaintance of a former agency employee now retired and living nearby in Florida in ill health. This intelligence officer has tacitly indicated that clear, detailed and revealing images of Unidentified Flying Objects have indeed been obtained by the super-satellites of the NRO - and that many of them are not made by man.

More information is hoped to be forthcoming soon about this most covert and cryptic intelligence agency - and it’s no doubt astounding UFO secrets.
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dr wu

Noble
The NRO is not a secret in the sense that even though it was officially declassified in 1997.....people talked about it in the 80's and earlier...I recall it being mentioned in ufo books many years ago.
Not sure of it's part in the thread topic.....but it certainly has fed info into the database since it controls satellites and observational material related to US security etc.
from wiki...
"
The National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) is a member of the United States Intelligence Community and an agency of the United States Department of Defense. NRO is considered, along with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), National Security Agency (NSA), Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), and National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA), to be one of the "big five" U.S. intelligence agencies.[2] The NRO is headquartered in unincorporated Fairfax County, Virginia,[3] 2 miles (3.2 km) south of Washington Dulles International Airport.

It designs, builds, and operates the reconnaissance satellites of the U.S. federal government, and provides satellite intelligence to several government agencies, particularly signals intelligence (SIGINT) to the NSA, imagery intelligence (IMINT) to the NGA, and measurement and signature intelligence (MASINT) to the DIA.[4]

The Director of the NRO reports to both the Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Defense[5] and serves as Assistant Secretary of the Air Force (Intelligence Space Technology). The NRO's federal workforce consists primarily of Air Force, CIA, NGA, NSA, and Navy personnel.[6] A 1996 bipartisan commission report described the NRO as having by far the largest budget of any intelligence agency, and "virtually no federal workforce", accomplishing most of its work through "tens of thousands" of defense contractor personnel.[7]"
 

dr wu

Noble
I believe, as do many others like Dr Vallee...., that the big secret here regarding ufo disclosure is that the 'Government' has been monitoring ufo (fastwalkers as they used to be called on the big radar boards at NORAD and other facilities) for a long time but that they have no dead aliens or crashed craft and are as interested in the true identity of the ufo enigma as much as everyone else. It has been said by Vallee and others that there are several camps within the intel and military communities and there are different opinions on what it all means. Dr Vallee was once told that several observational scientific sites were set up in the 80's and earlier in ufo hot spots to gather data for analysis. He asked about access and was told no one other than inside participants were allowed to see the data. That surprises me since Dr Vallee worked on several Darpa projects including the original Arpanet project which, the public part, became the internet as w e know it today.
This was in his book Forbidden Science which was written from journals and logs he kept through the 60's ,70's ,and 80's,
 

dr wu

Noble
Regarding the Navy pilot above....I think he did see something unusual.....was it an unknown natural phenom, a covert military craft, or an alien craft...? Sadly we don't know....and that's about all that can be said about his experience.
On Astronaut Cooper.....this is a well known story. Apparently he did not actually see the craft nor the footage....but believed the tale of the cameramen. It's very unfortunate or perhaps planned...that we never heard publicly from the cameramen on this. Why did they not come forward when they retired or before they died...is there a source on them?
 

SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
Wouldn't surprise me (or quite a lot of other folks) either mate and there really is some interesting reading in the article below about the National Reconnaissance Office - I've posted it in it's entirety as it keeps on being taken down and the link is literally the last page on the web that hosts it).


SECRET US INTELLIGENCE AGENCY HOLDS UFO ANSWERS

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Very interesting.
 

SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
In what specific way do you find it interesting...?
The NRO is not a secret these days....and is just one of many alphabet soups in Washington.
I understand that but was not aware of them much.
Washigton has too many alphabet soups as you call them. IMHO
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
The existence of NRO has been an open secret for years, just like A51. It would certainly make sense that our spy satellites would pick up any craft in our atmosphere or nearby Earth. And, just like the USAF, I think it would take a Herculean effort to pry that information out of them if you could even find out what they have and who has it. It is probably so compartmentalized that 99% of their workforce is unaware of it.
 
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