The Pentagon FINALLY admits it investigates UFOs

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  1. Standingstones

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    By control I mean the aliens would be small in number compare to billions of humans. What better way to get some control than to offer the humans some trade for technology and weapons. It is true, the aliens here on Earth may already have control or have made deals with various countries. To what purpose they would barter with humans, who knows? Nefarious or good, I hate to think what might have been negotiated.

    From certain reports over the years, it seems that UFO ships have been able to activate or shut down missile silos. A very frightening thought when you think about it.
     
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  2. nivek

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    Of course I'm speaking hypothetically...

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    British Parliament Discusses Pentagon UFO Report

    The much-discussed Pentagon Report on UFOs wound up becoming a topic of conversation in Britain's Parliament this week as multiple politicians questioned an official with the country's Ministry of Defense about the potential threat posed by the phenomenon. The enlightening exchange reportedly occurred during a House of Lords session on Wednesday when MP Lord Sarfraz detailed how the DoD assessment "does not rule out that these could be military aircraft with very fast capabilities or even extraterrestrial phenomena." He then asked defense minister Baroness Goldie if she could "reassure members of the public that the Ministry of Defense takes reports of unidentified objects in our airspace very seriously?"

    In response, she acknowledged the findings of the report and indicated that the MoD "holds no reports on unidentified aerial phenomena, but constantly monitors UK airspace to identify and respond to any credible threat to its integrity, and is confident in the existing measures in place to protect it." Goldie went on to express what appeared to be a fairly skeptical take on the phenomenon, stressing that "the MoD deals with actual threats substantiated by evidence." The conversation continued when another MP, Viscount Ridley, argued that "the idea that in an era of mobile phone cameras, drones and frequent travel there could possibly be alien spaceships whizzing about undetected in our atmosphere on a regular basis is not, I think, very plausible."

    Ridley finished up his remarks by musing that "it's much more likely that these blurred images have boring explanations." While Goldie did not offer an opinion on the quality of the materials that were examined by the Pentagon, she stressed again that "the UK air defense community detect and monitor all flying air systems 24 hours a day to provide an identified air picture as part of the UK's national security posture." The issue of UFOs being a possible threat was brought up once more by another MP, Lord Coaker, who asked Goldie if she agreed with the Pentagon's assessment of the phenomenon as a serious national security matter.

    The defense minister noted the DoD's assessment, but indicated that Britain's Ministry of Defense "regard threats as having to exist in the first place. We regard them as having to be substantiated by evidence and that's because we need to know what we are addressing and how best we can address it." As for the possibility that Britain might launch its own investigation into UFOs akin to what the Pentagon just produced, Goldie said that "the MoD has no plans to conduct its own report into UAP, because in over 50 years no such reporting had indicated the existence of any military threat to the United Kingdom."

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  4. August

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  5. pigfarmer

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    Plenty of colonial history to draw from there. never turned out well for the locals. Never turned out well for anybody when the locals got artillery.
     
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  6. August

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    You know I reckon if those pen pushers and bean counters at the Pentagon encouraged the public a bit more by showing them some decent footage and images of this 'Mystery Phenomena' and told them a bit more off what they know I am sure they would have half the planet hunting for these UAPs. The mystery would be solved in no time.
     
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  7. pigfarmer

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    UAPTF or no I just suspect that solving this isn’t the game being played
     
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  8. HAL9000

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    That would seem to be the case.

    If these 'objects' are real, as it appears they are (choose your own version of reality here) then it would follow that they represent the most important discovery we have ever made. I.e that we are not the only sentient beings around. Surely that comes under the heading of 'existential threat'.

    But no one seems to have been bothered over the last half century.

    One has to wonder why.

    The only other game would be that certain powers know what is going on.

    Maybe that is more worrying than them not knowing.
     
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  9. August

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    New UAP Video.

     
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  10. pigfarmer

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    Well, the Devil's in the details. As JB Alexander has put it many times there is no Department of Good Ideas. Everybody's got a budget and accountability, even the deep dark ones. This huge organization is made up of many many different parts that don't all get along or talk with one another, that may compete with one another over resources and are managed by fallible human beings with opinions and biases. These people are all doing their thing - whatever their mandate is.

    Then throw in an unknown variable. If a tic-tac was and overt and direct threat then 'the military' in whatever form that might be would know just what to do. Rules of Engagement - tick off the right boxes and then rock & roll. Not saying their response would be effective, but it would be understandable. But failing that, if they continue to just weave and bob and maybe have a close fly by occasionally why be the one to draw attention to yourself, to spend and possibly risk those resources? That could mean anything from losing your position, losing your budget or maybe your people and hardware because you have enough common sense to realize taking potshots at one of those goddamned things is a bad idea. Failing a clear response to a clear threat they'll just activate the Somebody Else's Problem Field and go back to what they were doing.

    So if you can sort of ignore it while you go about your business, and then maybe even find the topic useful to your military sneakery and the other tasks you are responsible for, then I can see how we got here. I don't necessarily believe all the reports we've read going back decades. Statistically many if not most of them probably have mundane explanations so I can't say from them what 'threat level' they may have represented. I still think that maskirovka is at work here and probably always will be. Again, this topic can be a useful tool. But at a basic level, taking the UAPTF seriously, standardized reports free of stigma collected in an organized fashion and discussed through one office not several sounds like a good idea. And then I start raving about the benefits of a real database.

    Even with all that said, I dunno. Hard to be be suspicious and we haven't seen any behavior that would alleviate any of it.
     
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  11. August

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    New footage of UAPs.

     
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  12. wwkirk

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    Absent the commentary, the objects don't strike me as extraordinary. Am I missing something?
    Or is the commentary the main point?
     
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  13. pigfarmer

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    yup, they're blurry blink red dots alright.
     
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  14. dr wu

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    And I would ask why aliens, drones or actual craft, would need to swarm anything?
    An adanced ET race should be capable of getting data ,etc with one or 2 craft/drones....we can quite easily.
    o_O
     
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  15. Rick Hunter

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    While I really like the more open and engaging attitude from DoD on this topic, we shouldn't forget that they can and do withhold things for their own purposes. It is also not their mission to solve "mysteries" for the benefit of the general public. Apparently they have decided that public engagement of the topic and releasing some blurry videos is good for their interests, whatever those might be.

    I think it is pretty plain that DoD and probably other nations know more than they are willing to admit. For them not to have been studying this topic for the past 76 years would be falling down on the job pretty badly, even if they still don't know how to deal with it.
     
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  16. Double Nought Spy

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    Our system has defaulted to the military having responsibility for any and all intrusions into our reality. The military has the habit of interpreting everything they see or hear or otherwise detect in terms of potential threat. It's cooked into the DNA of the various organizations. It's what they do for a living.

    It is said the US government is the largest organization of any kind in the history of the world. That's not hard to believe. There are countless agencies competing for resources, prestige, power and so on. They jealously guard against leakage of any significant information from one another. They are not going to even admit they have it without some compelling reason.
     
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  17. nivek

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  18. HAL9000

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    Would you have it any other way ?

    Someone has to keep an eye on things.

    And I agree they sure as Hell are not going to say one word more than they have to. But I do think that they are right when they assume that these 'things' are not from any of their adversaries.
     
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  19. nivek

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  20. Double Nought Spy

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    They certainly should not have a monopoly on the information. The media have rolled over and refused to hold them accountable for their program of ridicule, which is the reason mainstream scientists don't want to touch it with a stick. We know all about the program of ridicule and its purposes, its implementation, and the results. They are not in question. We are all the poorer for it.
     
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