The Rise of the Fourth Reich

Discussion in 'End Times & Conspiracies' started by Zeke, May 7, 2018.

  1. Castle-Yankee54

    Castle-Yankee54 Celestial

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    Yes he did finally succeed....it just took him a while. He was lucky that he flew to England in 1941.....had he stayed he likely would have been hung, even with his problems.

    I did hear he was an intelligent man.....it sure would be interesting to talk to your friend about him. I'm not sure I'd want to talk to hess personally.
     
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  2. Ron67

    Ron67 Ignorance isn’t bliss!

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    My friend,now in his seventies,was a young soldier at Spandau.Next time I see him i will pick his brains a bit,I do recall him telling me he had his wages docked for letting Hess have one of his cigarettes!.
     
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  3. Castle-Yankee54

    Castle-Yankee54 Celestial

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    That would be great.....but it appears they were still trying to keep him alive after goering killed himself.
     
  4. pigfarmer

    pigfarmer tall, thin, irritable

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    The Brown Mouse. Now that's cool. We have to wait until 2041 to find out what's been sealed in the archives. Must be something beyond simply revealing the workings of the intelligence services. And no, I don't mean secret technology or that Hitler was a reptilian or anything like that ......

    Eight Historical Archives That Will Spill New Secrets | History | Smithsonian

    2041: Deputy Führer Rudolf Hess flew from Germany to Scotland on May 10, 1941, claiming that he wanted to discuss peace terms with Britain and that their common enemy was the Soviet Union. Hess was imprisoned and interrogated. After the war, he was convicted at the Nuremberg trials and sentenced to life at Spandau Prison. A British intelligence file said to contain an interrogation transcript and Hess’ correspondence with King George VI is scheduled to be unsealed 100 years after his arrest. Historians say the papers might show whether British intelligence tricked Hess into undertaking his fateful mission.
     
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  5. Castle-Yankee54

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    Would have been a cool trick......but then he would be an easy mark for such an operation. I can see that being the case.

    Images taken in 1943 of the torpedo damage to the USS Oklahoma was classified for 40 years.....so its hard to say how they pick the time frame.
     
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  6. Zeke

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    Just found this quote by Henry Wallace relevant to Marrs' book. The post is making comparison to the current state "America is on the Road to Becoming a Fascist State".

    "A Fascist is one whose lust for money or power is combined with such an intensity of intolerance toward those of other races, parties, classes, religions, cultures, regions or nations as to make him ruthless in his use of deceit or violence to attain his ends. The supreme god of a Fascist to which his ends are directed may be money or power; may be a race or a class; may be a military clique or an economic group; or may be a culture, religion or a political party.

    The dangerous American Fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American Fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a Fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the Fascist and his group more money or more power.
    American fascism will not be really dangerous until there is a purposeful coalition among the cartelists, the deliberate poisoners of public information, and those who stand for the KKK type of demagoguery. Every year, however, the deliberate, systematic poisoning of the public channels of information is becoming more evident.

    Fascism is a world-wide disease. Its greatest threat to the United States will come after the war, either via Latin America or within the United States itself.

    The American Fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact. Their newspapers and propaganda carefully cultivate every fissure of disunity, every crack in the common front against fascism. They use every opportunity to impugn democracy. They use isolationism as a slogan to conceal their own selfish imperialism.

    They cultivate hate and distrust of both Britain and Russia. They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the State and the power of the market simultaneously they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.

    Several leaders of industry in this country who have gained a new vision of the meaning of opportunity through cooperation with government have warned the public openly that there are some selfish groups in industry who are willing to jeopardize the structure of American liberty to gain some temporary advantage. We all know the part that the cartels played in bringing Hitler to power, and the rule the giant German trusts have played in Nazi conquests. Monopolists who fear competition and who distrust democracy because it stands for equal opportunity would like to secure their position against small and energetic enterprise. In an effort to eliminate the possibility of any rival growing up, some monopolists would sacrifice democracy itself.

    -Vice President Henry A. Wallace, 1944, from Wallace Defines 'American Fascism'
     
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  7. Kilburn

    Kilburn Christian Hermit

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    That's Reich to you, untermensch.
     
  8. Zeke

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    @nivek can you fix that typo in title, looks like we got a spelling Nazi over here :eek:
     
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  9. Kilburn

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    Literally! XD
     

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