To The Stars Academy: Investigating the Unexplained

[Spaceman spiff]

Hyping up at least somewhat controversial or debunked materials while wanting new investors is indeed an odd strategy if they want success.

These LMH materials have given debunkers ammo to shoot at them. They should realize this. And if they turn out to be bust its loads of more ammo for them. So they better be sure if they bring them up to the test.

We havent seen really much solid from TTSA after the 3 videos, except some media presence and a History Channel tv show, and lots of talk... they better bring something else soon if they want investors. Something good. Not more promises of future revelations, not more vague statements. Something real this time.

 

[pigfarmer]

If I read pigfarmer's cryptic comment right, then the fact that they're touting the LMH samples while simultaneously raising money again, seems to indicate an element of bad faith or at least gross negligence.

That was cryptic?

 

[humanoidlord]

Im more intrested in those that Vallee has talked about.

same , those are definitely anomalous, the jury is still out on the LMH sample, but the previous analysis of it shows that it isn't that incredible

 

[Spaceman spiff]

Tom apparently posted this and then removed it, it shows alleged connections and achievements of TTSA?

 

[nivek]

Delonge deletes many tweets, sometimes within a minute of posting, I don't know what his motive is for this...One time he ranted about spell check changing his words in a tweet but that tweet still contained many misspelled words, later he deleted the tweet lol...

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[nivek]

 

[pigfarmer]

Tom apparently posted this and then removed it, it shows alleged connections and achievements of TTSA?

Looks like his To Do list. Probably stuck to his refrigerator with a flying saucer magnet

 

[wwkirk]

I thought the controversy was not whether he worked for the Defense Department, but whether he was really the head of AATIP.

 

[Thomas R. Morrison]

I thought the controversy was not whether he worked for the Defense Department, but whether he was really the head of AATIP.

It seems like an untenable position to argue that Mr. Elizondo wasn't the head of the AATIP given the content of his resignation letter.

 

[Double Nought Spy]

Please forgive me, but I don't want to slog back through all that stuff. Do we know the letter is a genuine resignation letter, acknowledged by the agency he left?

 

[Thomas R. Morrison]

Please forgive me, but I don't want to slog back through all that stuff. Do we know the letter is a genuine resignation letter, acknowledged by the agency he left?

They've never challenged it, which is probably all the confirmation we'll ever get.

 

[nivek]

It seems like an untenable position to argue that Mr. Elizondo wasn't the head of the AATIP given the content of his resignation letter.

Indubitably...

...but there are still some who continue to cry foul even when facing the obvious, kind of reminds me of an old saying, “People pretend not to like grapes when the vines are too high for them to reach.”

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[nivek]

Then there is this...

 

[pigfarmer]

57 people are probably asking WTF?

 

[Double Nought Spy]

 

[nivek]

This was posted a few days ago on UFO Trail Blog in regards to the 'discrepancies' of TTSA, interesting read although long, I haven't read through it all yet...

Wicked Webs: Media Portrayal of Tall Tales, TTSA and Luis Elizondo

In the much celebrated Dec. 16, 2017 story at the New York Times, authors Helene Cooper, Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean wrote about the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, or what was later identified as the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program (AATIP). Many of the assertions published in the article remain unconfirmed. "It was run by a military intelligence official, Luis Elizondo, on the fifth floor of the Pentagon’s C Ring, deep within the building’s maze," they reported.

Frank Warren attempted to learn more about what led Kean and Blumenthal to report Elizondo ran the AATIP. In an Aug. 5 post at The UFO Chronicles, Warren explored the AATIP saga and explained how he specifically asked the two if they would at the least describe the nature of the evidence and how it was authenticated. They did not.

"So after a couple of weeks and 5 attempts I received a five-word, one-sentence reply, sending me back to the article whose omissions precipitated my query to begin with," Warren wrote.

After several emails, Kean told Frank Warren to ask Blumenthal. Blumenthal eventually stated the two stand by their reporting. Neither remotely addressed Warren's original questions pertaining to what evidence was reviewed that indicated Elizondo ran the AATIP.

Warren concluded:
Above I asked the proverbial question, "does any of this matter?" The short answer is yes, of course it does. This is research 101; thorough investigation and due diligence performed by sober researchers should be commended, not criticized. Facts don’t lie. Moreover, and particularly in this instance, when contradictory information to this degree, i.e., divergent statements from the Pentagon re Elizondo’s claimed credentials are uncovered, then this must be resolved. All the same, I can’t for the life of me understand why Luis Elizondo has not got in front of this. If everything is as he says, then certainly he can provide evidence to put this controversy to bed once and for all, unless….
Helene Cooper, Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean were each offered an opportunity to comment for this blog post. None responded.

Nearly two years now since the initial Times article, many important details remain unverified. Not only have the initial assertions received little to no follow up, but more articles were published about TTSA while ignoring mounting discrepancies.

(more on the link)

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[nivek]

I see this viewpoint too, there's more going on around us than society generally doesn't realize, that we don't know about...

 

[nivek]

I've been reading DeLonge’s posts on twitter lately and he has been posting some off the wall shyte, implying a great many things without offering anything to back it...This isn't how a leader of a business should be doing business, especially with the tasks they claim to be involved in with these alleged meta materials...

 

[Spaceman spiff]

Likely the reason his presence has been reduced, like the CEO thing. Tom no doubt has a passion for this, but at times he comes out as a babbling loon. He has troubles keeping his mouth shut where he should.

I have long thought that hes being used by these government or ex-government backers, for what end tough, well have to see.

 

[nivek]

Likely the reason his presence has been reduced, like the CEO thing. Tom no doubt has a passion for this, but at times he comes out as a babbling loon. He has troubles keeping his mouth shut where he should.

I have long thought that hes being used by these government or ex-government backers, for what end tough, well have to see.

Seems he's being used by someone or just flying off the rails spewing out a bunch of shyte, he said he's just thinking out loud, but given his position and (cough) reputation you would think he would show more wisdom with the content of his tweets...

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