To The Stars Academy: Investigating the Unexplained

Discussion in 'UFOs & Sightings' started by nivek, Feb 9, 2019.

  1. nivek

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    This is a good point below, we do not yet have enough information on TTSA, keep digging is right but also keep watch on them and their future actions to gauge and see a true intent, as it seems they are not as revealing and transparent as we would like them to be...

     
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  2. pigfarmer

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    "I sympathise with @tomdelonge & #TTSA when they discuss the need to explain the basics to people before going to a full reveal. There are things about the structure of civilization and the forces underlying our world, that are so horrific & alien that some minds may break."

    Nope, sorry. The flummery isn't for the benefit of the nose picking mouth breathing public. Many of us are quite clever and aren't going to run outside to shoot at water towers or anything. In short THEY brought all this up in Dec 2017 so spit it out already - the collective dumbness of the masses isn't a valid reason for not doing so. If it was why even bring it up in a national forum? It wasn't as if AATIP had been revealed accidentally and this represents damage control. No, TTSA has run around shrieking that the barn's on fire for some time now. It doesn't seem to be.

    Replace this fusion-hot topic with a totally mundane one of your choice.

    If you found some sort of start up company that was making claims about a product or service they want to deliver ask yourself if you would want to invest in it despite the many questions that haven't been addressed regarding the company's officers and the veracity of the claims made about their product that they've presented. Then throw in an incredibly broad mission statement with multiple not strictly complimentary avenues that will consume whatever resources are invested.
    Then let this go on too long and make a few easily avoided public gaffes.

    It's not a Baby Ruth. It's a real turd.
     
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  3. Double Nought Spy

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    Yup. They are asking for money. Not selling books or T shirts or coffee mugs, but seeking investors. Does this circus look like something a smart person would invest money in? They make Elon Musk look like IBM. I still hope they produce something worthwhile, but I'm sure as hell not betting on it.
     
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  4. Standingstones

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    TTSA has had ample time to produce substantive information. If you are going to ask for money you need to give out something in return to bring in the donations. I don’t see that thus far. DeLonge acts as though he is fronting a rock band. His goofy pronouncements don’t help matters. I rarely agree with Don Ecker but his investigations into Elizondo didn’t give him a positive feeling. To me, time is running out to show this group has something to offer the masses interested in the UFO question.
     
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  5. Spaceman spiff

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    So have you people changed your view on Greenewald? You think hes on to something? Hes been one of the most vocal critics of TTSA and Elizondo. Ufology followers and researchers have kinda splitted from the middle, one faction supports these guys and has jumped on their bandwagon while the other one doesnt.

    I just cant tell what game these guys are playing and whats their end goal. Theyre playing it kinda poorly, on purpose maybe
     
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  6. pigfarmer

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    Being a content producer for the History Channel is one of the things you can point to as an accomplishment. Apparently it was one of their most important goals because they got it done first.

    Not sure what they got done second.
     
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  7. Spaceman spiff

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    Well there was the hearings with the senators...

    At least that got done, but how much TTSA had to do with that directly...? And what did they actually show them? Mark Walker at least got intrested about something.

    I just wish they would show us something for a change. Something other than tv shows and vague tv appearances.
     
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  8. Double Nought Spy

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    Greenwald can still be a jackass no matter what. My guess is he will continue to be one.
     
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  9. nivek

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    The thing is, he may be right on a couple points but he is very biased towards TTSA and his arrogance stemming from complete emotional immaturity tarnishes his work and reputation...He has blocked so many people who disagree with him, even those who are very polite and agree to disagree he cannot stand it, shouts them down and blocks them for disagreeing, quite pathetic...I lost all respect for the guy, you cannot talk to him reasonably...

    I'm on the fence with TTSA, I am very disappointed with them but also still waiting to see what might yet spill out from them, I agree they are playing things very poorly, they should be putting out something given they have their hats out for cash, so to speak...

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  10. Double Nought Spy

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    When I see the stuff Greenwald writes about TTSA, I pick up more than a hint of sour grapes. Rock stars know how to get attention. Resenting them for that ability is childish.
     
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  11. nivek

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  12. Spaceman spiff

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    Someone said, i dont recall who, that while TTSA may not be a CIA operation, it is kinda being conducted like one. Very little openness.
     
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    A new video from TTSA...

     
  14. pigfarmer

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    oooo - I felt my paradigm shift after those hearings ....
     
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  15. nivek

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    Looks like Greenewald is going to give his analysis and opinions on the newest Elizondo e-mails that got FOIAd by Glassel soon. Apparently more discrepancies uncovered. He also said hes going after some of the reporters that he claims are spinning this story, like Rojas and Knapp.

    If anyones intrested heres a related twitter link about the time.

     
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  17. nivek

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    That should be interesting as long as he doesn't degenerate this into his biased campaign, I just want to hear the facts, not his biased opines and foul mouth along with it...

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  18. Spaceman spiff

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    Greenewood has said that even if you take him out of the equation, theres things that speak for themselves, that something is not right with this narrative thats being spun. If someone can refute them with evidence, theyre welcomed to do so.

    My biggest concern of TTSA is that they have not been too open so far. Aside from their speeches on confrences and on tv, and that History Channel Show, how much actual evidence or data have they provided to us? Not senators, not government, us.

    And when are they gonna provide this data, if they have it that is? Its looking more suspicious the longer it takes. Also on top of this they seem to avoid tough questions. Even if there were legimate reasons for it. If they cant be open with their stuff, because of reasons, its a big red flag.

    Mellon claimed on the show that they have the proof. Ok, then show it please. No more games.
     
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  19. nivek

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    I wholeheartedly agree with what you said, Greenewald though, may be right on many points but its not his message but how he's saying it that pisses everyone off, and he can't let the data speak for itself, he has to show his arse and be completely obnoxious about it, kicking the shins of anyone who questions him...He acts like a 10 year old with a temper tantrum and has blocked most people on twitter who would do well to listen to his message because of his immature attitude...

    I'll listen to him tomorrow if I can, I'll be at work...

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  20. Spaceman spiff

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    Its important that we get someone like Greenewald to hold their feet to the fire. If hes mistaken, then in the end he wont get anywhere and we get more confirmation. However, if theres something fishy going on, it will be potentially devastating. Because despite all the progress TTSA has seemingly made in the mainstream for the subject, none of it will mean anything if its build on fraudulent grounds and exposed. Well be back at square one and the next time someone comes along it will only be that much harder for them to get evidence presented, since anyone could bring this event up as a deterrent.

    Theres a paranoid in me, that fears maybe this is the ultimate purpose for them? Bait then sink.

    Im not sure what to believe.
     
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