Trump Addresses the United Nations General Assembly

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Never said you couldn't believe in fairy tales. If you want to believe your mother was some witch who was granted powers by Satan, fine by me. Doesn't mean I'm not allowed to call it bullshit. Just my opinion. Take it or leave it bro.
Here is the thing though. How does an uninformed opinion on a subject carry any weight though? Here is the thing. Since the beginning of human civilization, there has been a cultural belief about the afterlife, Spiritualism and the metaphysical. God. This has been the entirety of human history, Culture has held a belief in one religion or another. All of them have a God. So Even the Science guy is telling you, It's possible. Human culture has carried the notion as far back as history goes. And somehow, The opinion that Most of the Human in existence have held such beliefs since the beginning of humans and somehow, to boot the fact that some scientific schools of thought accept the possibility, Because you think it's bullshit. Well in turn. I think It's pretty uninformed to refuse cultural traditions that have been passed down and beheld from generation to generation in families as far back as time goes. Because you simply outwardly project your beliefs, I think it's a pretty hypocritical thing to really approach someone, And tell them their beliefs are bullshit honestly. It's kind of rude. It's like spitting in someones face. What complicates this is the people who project this nonbelief can't really keep their damned opinions to themselves you see. So they have to project it onto a believer to validate it. I think that's a really pointless and crude act honestly. Take it or leave it.
 

Visenya

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What complicates this is the people who project this nonbelief can't really keep their damned opinions to themselves you see. So they have to project it onto a believer to validate it. I think that's a really pointless and crude act honestly. Take it or leave it.

So people who disagree with you shouldn't express their opinion? Gotcha.
 

Merle

Honorable
Witches don't worship Satan.

That's a modern held beliefe. And it's not different from the atheistic belief system that states there is no God,
Modern people who worship the moon and the seasons Are not Legitimate witches. Real witches Do not credit those who do not worship Satan, That is where their power comes from, And if you don't properly Credit him, You don't have any power or authority as a Witch. My mother was a Satanic Priestess, I kind of know the ropes
A 'Satanic Princess' who worships Satan and is a Satanist has nothing at all in common with Witches who date way way back before Christianity and Satanism first made it's appearance...

In ancient tribal and ancient people ways, Witches (and Shamans, Medicine Man and Woman etc) can be either male or female and were healers sending away sickness, communicating with Spirits, as well as spell casters (be the spells for good and or evil). Performing rituals for example, making sure the Spirit of Rain is appeased to ensure the Rain doesn't create flooding....

An example of one ancient form of Witches which has zilch to do with Satan is Celtic Witchcraft which has as its basis a strong sense of spirituality and a love of the Earth. The Celtric religion recognises two main deities, Earth Mother Goddess and the Horned God.

Satansim is merely just another aspect of Christianity except that they worship Satan, not God, so I hardly think a Satanic Princess would have much in common with witches from the old cultures who worshipped the Earth and Nature.

Satanism - Wikipedia

Witch doctor - Wikipedia
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
So people who disagree with you shouldn't express their opinion? Gotcha.
If someone's opinion could be offensive on a very fundamental level and the other person never asked to be offended. And yet. to see to it, Like you are on some holy mission to disrecpect someone's beliefs by calling them bullshit and fairytales, Yeah. That's rude. There is such a thing as respect for other people. And to be honest. The (Hey I'm an atheist and I know whats best for everyone game, is not only a little old. It's somewhat fascist when you consider Nine times out of ten. It's some atheist chasing down some Believer who doesn't know them, To let them know Hey. What you believe is bullshit.

It's straight up fucking rude honestly.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
A 'Satanic Princess' who worships Satan and is a Satanist has nothing at all in common with Witches who date way way back before Christianity and Satanism first made it's appearance...

In ancient tribal and ancient people ways, Witches (and Shamans, Medicine Man and Woman etc) can be either male or female and were healers sending away sickness, communicating with Spirits, as well as spell casters (be the spells for good and or evil). Performing rituals for example, making sure the Spirit of Rain is appeased to ensure the Rain doesn't create flooding....

An example of one ancient form of Witches which has zilch to do with Satan is Celtic Witchcraft which has as its basis a strong sense of spirituality and a love of the Earth. The Celtric religion recognises two main deities, Earth Mother Goddess and the Horned God.

Satansim is merely just another aspect of Christianity except that they worship Satan, not God, so I hardly think a Satanic Princess would have much in common with witches from the old cultures who worshipped the Earth and Nature.

Satanism - Wikipedia

Witch doctor - Wikipedia
See that's another misconception, Again focused on Christianity, Who said Christianity? Satan was around long before Christianity. That's why they call it Judeo Christianity. The Jewish Religion had been around for thousands of years. Also, The Term Witch doctor does not in any way translate to (Witch ) When spoken in the native tongue of its origins. Witch doctor is a colonial term that was often used to describe shaman and Medicine men in Tribes,

A witch Doctor by literal definition is not a witch. It's like someone calling a van or a bus a car because hell they all have four wheels. There are cultural aspects to consider here.

The witches that I have encountered, All claim that power or what they believe, Comes from Satan. And those who do not follow that path simply are not witches. It's a lot like most religions I would think as they all claim that someone isn't part of them because of X belief difference. It would be difficult if not impossible to find a Level definition of (Witch) That every religion agreed upon, I'd think.
 
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Shadowprophet

Truthiness
If someone's opinion could be offensive on a very fundamental level and the other person never asked to be offended. And yet. to see to it, Like you are on some holy mission to disrecpect someone's beliefs by calling them bullshit and fairytales, Yeah. That's rude. There is such a thing as respect for other people. And to be honest. The (Hey I'm an atheist and I know whats best for everyone game, is not only a little old. It's somewhat fascist when you consider Nine times out of ten. It's some atheist chasing down some Believer who doesn't know them, To let them know Hey. What you believe is bullshit.

It's straight up fucking rude honestly.
Don't take this personally, It is not personal. I don't know you, How can it be personal? I'm not a fan of someone who at the point of Ridicule of others belief systems makes a point to someone else by calling their Spiritual beliefs fairy tails and Bullshit. To a person who does place importance in those beliefes, It's a very disrespectful and damaging Thing to say to another people, People say Words can hurt. And, The fact that there are rules in place to keep people from hurting each other with words proves that point. So then, Why is it okay, To walk up to another person and say hey, The principals you were raised on, The things you have believed your entire life. Well, those things are bullshit. If words can hurt. Then comments like those should be considered as a punch or an attack. And here is the thing. Is it okay to just Walk up to someone and punch them?

There is no moral high ground here. When you don't have a better answer than someone elses belief. Why offer negativity to someone who does believe? It's pointless and insulting, And let me tell you someone, One Thing I have Straight up Earned, Is to not have my intelligence insulted.

People think I'm crazy when it comes to this Topic. People know how I feel about it.

I don't care if I'm in a room of fifty Atheists and surrounded, I believe in God, My intelligence is proven Here and all over the internet. I am a highly intelligent man that believes in God, And furthermore, Someone who has no beliefes Has no Substance or value for input on the matter.

This isn't news or mindblowing to anyone, Everyone knows I feel this way.

I was born with a fucked up brain and an Iq legitimately of 167. I've been treated differently my whole life. By everyone. I earned my right to believe in God, and I dare the First person to even attempt to insult my intellect because I believe in God,



My debating is Harsh. I'm very much out of practice at being real. I am having fun. I love to debate. Sorry if it was harsh. It's been a while since I've been able to get everything off my chest.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
Look people take posts to serious, I wanted to debate this, I wanted one of those old-school heavy debates. I'm bored and it's been forever. So yeah...
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
To continue the debate. I want to say this. Look at our community? This is a community Based entirely on peculiar specific beliefs, Think about coming into a room, A room where people go to speak about specific beliefs, and then be the guy proclaiming at the edge of a room full of people, (Woah, what you believe it bullshit!!), I mean.

To be told by the guy that can believe in aliens, That can believe in Bigfoot. That can believe in ghosts. to be told by that Guy, That my belief in God is bullshit. Well. That's pretty Fucked up, If you think about it,,
 

Merle

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To be told by the guy that can believe in aliens, That can believe in Bigfoot. That can believe in ghosts. to be told by that Guy, That my belief in God is bullshit. Well. That's pretty Fucked up, If you think about it,,
I don't see a problem there.... Just because someone tells me what I believe is bullshit, is still, that person merely stating their own opinion...

For example, I believe in Elves and though my belief in Elves may be bullshit to someone else, because I feel secure and confident in my belief that Elves exist, then I see no reason why I would need other people's approval nor need them to validate my belief for me...

There's a saying: 'Don't Let the Noise of Other People's Opinions Drown out Your Inner Voice'...

Angrybird11
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I don't see a problem there.... Just because someone tells me what I believe is bullshit, is still, that person merely stating their own opinion...

For example, I believe in Elves and though my belief in Elves may be bullshit to someone else, because I feel secure and confident in my belief that Elves exist, then I see no reason why I would need other people's approval nor need them to validate my belief for me...

There's a saying: 'Don't Let the Noise of Other People's Opinions Drown out Your Inner Voice'...

Angrybird11

It's not really that. I've always taken a stand that people should be able to openly believe whatever they want without Ridicule. If you notice a lot of people like that. They search for people who do believe just to spread their on viewpoints and bolster them. My thing is, I'm so very aware that some people believe it's BS. But I have a right I feel, To recognize that some people do try to (harass) people who do believe. It gets so old you know?
 

cosmic joke

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'hermetically sealed'. i remember when, as a thin skinned one, i first entertained that premise. never was/had a 'pack' mentality. i thank life circumstances for that. possibly i've even earned it, otherwise.
 

Shadowprophet

Truthiness
I know some people will think I've had a breakdown. That's just not true on any level. You know, I Do a lot of things online that Require that I be professional nonstop all the time. It's nice to have a place where I can truly speak my opinions. Even my opinions that would be considered offensive to others. I just want to have real conversations and Debate Like I used to. Like really argue stuff with people. I miss that. I need that. *Sigh
 

Toroid

Founding Member
Chief of Staff John Kelly doesn't look supportive during Trump's UN speech.
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Dundee

Fading day by day.
I know some people will think I've had a breakdown. That's just not true on any level. You know, I Do a lot of things online that Require that I be professional nonstop all the time. It's nice to have a place where I can truly speak my opinions. Even my opinions that would be considered offensive to others. I just want to have real conversations and Debate Like I used to. Like really argue stuff with people. I miss that. I need that. *Sigh
I had a best mate of many decades once, actually the bloke that ran of with my (ex) wife in the end!!! some best mate.
However in happier times we also used to like to debate, just for the fun of it. You didn't actually have to believe the crap you were saying, so long as we debated. Very competitive you understand :) Anyway in those days I had a habit of a default reply, it was "I know" It just seemed to slip out of my mouth with him very often. Anyway this day he got me big time. He passed a comment, "Hey, I read the other day that the color of your eyes determines the color you see the best through them", you guessed it, idiot Dundee by default said, "I know" well you can imagine the reaction. What an idiot I was, but he got me good. And we had a great laugh afterwords about it.
 

Dundee

Fading day by day.
Oh and shadow, I'd love a debate about something, great fun, problem is that as I have aged I am such an agreeable old bastard I can usually see the other fellows point so don't argue. We would just have to find something we disagree about. lol. It would be a hoot though :) Becasue where mates I know there would be no ill feeling, just a battle of wits. :)

But I will tell you this, if you want a debate that you cant win, but enjoy being destroyed like Sauron in the attempt Take on 22, My good Lady Galadriel.

All I ask, is let me know when, and where, and the topic. I will need popcorn and preparation time for the decimation :) 22 has mellowed as time passes, however, I have seen the obliteration she can wreak if you dare to take her on, if you can make her draw on her dark side.
But I warn you, she will rarely debate something not dear to her heart. So if you dare, dot every i, and cross every t, and prepare to be crucified.

This my friend if you want a debate is what you will face, if you take on the good Lady Galadriel.
I learned a decade or more ago, my place.

 

Tate

Honorable


I listened fully he did say all that and it is apt to call Kim-jun "Rocket Man"

You also missed the part where he plainly said The United States Pays 22% of The Budget for the U.N out of 195 Sitting Nations Registered... And the part where The United States Funds Multiple Health and Medical Programs.

Then he says "I hope we all can get together and make the world great" Basically... "Hint, Hint"

So, I wonder what would happen if we pulled the plug on funding the U.N and put that wealth back into America again?

Maybe there would be a functioning middle class again.....
 
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