U.S. Navy drafting new guidelines for reporting UFOs

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  1. Spaceman spiff

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    Its a possibility i admit, the next question is where and how they came about with this amazing technology then? And when will it be in public hands, because we especially need new energy sources. Desperately. Not just things that can kill and find you more efficiently.

    In the bigger picture of ufological history it explains little tough and just raises more questions, even if this particular thing turns out to be manmade. Or are we next going to go with the assumption that someone here invented this kind of tech in the 1940s or before and has kept it all covered up for 80+ years? Or did they perhaps get a downed craft or crafts and managed to figure it/them out at some point? Are we dealing with a so called reverse engineered alien craft copy in the case of Nimitz, perhaps?
     
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    Personally i dont know which is a more scarier scenario, that either someone here possesses tech like this knowing how humans are and can be, or that it comes from some unknown source with unknown intentions towards our world. Think about it...
     
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  3. Dean

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    The Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies recently released a forensic report on the Nimitz encounters, based on all of the witness testimony that is publicly available, the IR video, etc.. The report concludes that multiple UAPs descended from 80,000 feet at over 100,000 mph, that one of them performed 40 g maneuvers in the presence of the Super Hornets, then departed at a minimum of 800 g / 35,000 mph (and perhaps much faster). The report quotes one USN petty officer who asserts that a submerged object was tracked on sonar traveling at 500 knots at some point during this episode. At the time the Super Hornets were being out-maneuvered by the Tic Tac, 14 other unidentified objects were visible on the fleet's integrated radar network.

    I have a hard time mocking that all up as U.S. military technology. Especially since, 15 years later, the military services are still requesting billions from Congress every year to build aircraft that require wings and jet engines, are limited to 9 g or so, make lots of noise, cannot travel underwater, etc.

    Meanwhile, the "tests" continue . . .
     
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  4. nivek

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    Indeed, I seriously doubt the 'tic-tac' or other unidentified objects are terrestrial, granted the US military and perhaps other country's military have secret projects and are developing technology the public has not seen, but its my opinion they do not have anything even close to the level of technology of the 'tic-tac' or other such unidentified objects...We are still too primitive of a species to have developed such fantastic technology as the 'tic-tac' on our own...

    There's a theory a very wise man once shared with me many years ago, his thoughts on some of the many UFOs he witnessed in his travels around the world...He said many maneuver through our skies as if mentally controlled, remotely controlled by a telepathic mind of an advanced species and envisioned a larger ship out of range of our technology sending these craft into our atmosphere, telepathically controlled reacting to the operator's thought signals with mind-boggling precision and speed...

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    Chris Mellon letter describing TTSA's role in the Navy's revised policy.
     

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  8. Spaceman spiff

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    Was someone expecting something else?
     
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  9. nivek

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    From the link in this quote above:

    Here are video interviews of some of those who were there. Some are quite informal, but they give a good idea of what individuals' unique perceptions were of the events in question:











    What many may not know about this event is that it occurred in a place and time where the most powerful set of aerial surveillance sensors ever created were amassed together and were watching and recording it all. And it is the recording part that is maybe the most interesting facet of the Nimitz encounters that has largely been passed over in terms of significance and notoriety.

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    From Alejandro Rojas:
    "Just talked to Lue Elizondo. He wanted to reassure me there will definitely be a public component to all of this. The Navy will not share raw data, but he says they will be providing information to DoD leadership and congress. That information will be used to create reports for the public. He says the raw data will be classified. They will need to protect classified info such as sources and methods. The info provided to the public will likely include information on their interactions with UAP and stats. He says it is kind of like nukes and North Korea. They do not shared details about what they know, but they do inform the public NK has the nukes. The public is not left in the dark, and will not be left in the dark regarding the Navy's UFO findings."
     
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  13. nivek

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    Well before they just denied there was any UFOs, but now:

    UFOs Invading Military Airspace Multiple Times Per Month, but Public Won’t Be Told More

    Since 2014, UFOs have intruded upon military airspace as often as several times per month, a military official told the Washington Post. In a follow-up published by the Post on Monday, the same official said that the U.S. Navy will not share any more information regarding what they call “unexplained aerial phenomena” with the public, despite drafting formal procedures to document UFO sightings on an ongoing basis.

    “There have been a number of reports of unauthorized and/or unidentified aircraft entering various military-controlled ranges and designated air spaces in recent years,” the Navy said in a statement released to Politico, who first reported on the new approach. “The Navy is updating and formalizing the process by which reports of any such suspected incursions can be made to the cognizant authorities. A new message to the fleet that will detail the steps for reporting is in drafts.”

    The new processes come in response to multiple sightings of small, rounded objects spotted and tracked on infrared cameras, including footage of a so-called “Tic-Tac” UFO craft released by The New York Times in 2017. During the 2004 incident, the Nimitz Carrier Strike Group tracked multiple UFOs off California’s Baja Peninsula, with pilots, radar technicians and other military officials confirming the mysterious technology.

    “At a certain point, there ended up being multiple objects that we were tracking,” Petty Officer Gary Voorhis, stationed aboard the Princeton missile cruiser escorting the USS Nimitz, testified. “They all generally zoomed around at ridiculous speeds, and angles and trajectories and then eventually they all bugged out faster than our radars.”

    The vehicles buzzing military installations are described as having no air intake, no exhaust and no other indication of a power source or known method of generating thrust.

    Joseph Gradisher, spokesman for the office of the Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Information Warfare, described multiple recorded sightings per month to The Washington Post, but emphasized that any further information will likely remain classified. Congress may see reports with broad statistics regarding the number of sightings and conclusions taken from follow-up investigations.

    But while the Navy plans to keep its UFO sightings out of the public eye, the politician who helped fund the Pentagon’s shuttered UFO program, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), says UFO sightings are far more common in military circles than previously revealed.

    Speaking with CBS affiliate KLAS in Las Vegas, former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid described widespread sightings on military bases. “You can’t just hide your head and say these things are not happening,” Reid, who has previously described a UFO arms race between the United States and competing countries, told the I-Team’s George Knapp. “We have military installations where hundreds and hundreds of people who are there see these things."

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  14. nivek

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    Richard Dolan's take.
     
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  16. nivek

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    Jimmy Church claims there is more Tic-Tac footage in public hands that has not been seen yet, is he just blowing smoke?...

     
  17. wwkirk

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    Why doesn't he release it himself (assuming someone sent it to him)?
     
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  18. pigfarmer

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    A special plane of Hell needs to be reserved for those who tease you with tidbits and then won't tell you.
     
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  19. Niku120

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    yeah thats a messed up thing to do - I call bullshit.
     
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  20. humanoidlord

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    well at least TTSA is doing something good
     
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